Linux-Advocacy Digest #700, Volume #34           Tue, 22 May 01 16:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Solaris 8 vs 7/2.x.... ("G. Roderick Singleton")
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the  (Donn Miller)
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (.)
  Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Edward Rosten")

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Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:30:23 GMT

>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:

   Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >> 
   >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
   >> 
   Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >> >>
   >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
   >> >>
   Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
   >> >> >>
   Aaron> Roberto Pavan wrote:
   >> >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
   >> >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >> > You guys STILL have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality is
   >> >> >> >> > anything OTHER than defective behavior.
   >> >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >> Why?  Seriously.  Why should they demonstrate anything?
   >> >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >> Seeing as it affects you not one whit whether someone chooses to have 
sex with
   >> >> >> >> someone of the same gender, why should they have to prove anything to 
you at all
   >> >> >> >> regarding this behaviour?  Why not go on wearing your tutu and playing 
with your
   >> >> >>
   Aaron> If a car that I don't own, and I'm not riding in, crashes, killing all 
aboard,
   Aaron> due to brake failure...
   >> >> >>
   Aaron> are you trying to imply that I should be prohibited from commenting that
   Aaron> the car was obviously defective in some way...
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> >> sock while listening to Barry Manilow records and staring at pictures 
of flatulent
   >> >> >> >> field mice and leave them the hell alone?  Both you and they will be 
ever so much
   >> >> >> >> happier...
   >> >> >>
   Aaron> Personally, I wish all of these defective people would quit running around
   Aaron> demanding that I give them special rights, so that they can indulge in
   Aaron> their defective behavior.
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Can you name a single right being asked for that heterosexuals
   >> >> >> do not either already have,
   >> >>
   Yes> The PRIVILEGE of not allowing others to judge their behavior.
   >> >>
   Aaron> For example, *I* get judged on my behavior all the time.  Why should
   Aaron> homosexuals get a special exemption?
   >> >>
   >> >> Who is asking for such a thing?
   >> 
   Aaron> The gay privileges lobby.
   >> 
   >> Nobody is asking for a law anything like that.

   Aaron> That's funny, we just voted on EXACTLY that kind of ballot proposal
   Aaron> on May 15 in my city.

Cite.  I do not believe you.

   Aaron> Thank god it was defeated.


   >> >> >> or would have along with gays should
   >> >> >> the proposed item be passed into law?

   Aaron> They tried that in my home town just this week.

   Aaron> Although public opinion polls showed the special-rights-for-gays proposal
   Aaron> to have a slight majority....the ACTUAL VOTING TURNOUT was a landslide
   Aaron> defeat for the homsexuals.

   >> >> Name one of the so-called special rights.

   Aaron> The privilege to NOT bear the consequences of one's behavior.
   >> 
   >> I note you have failed the challenge to identify a single special
   >> right.  That does not surprise me, because all that is being asked
   >> for is equal rights.

   Aaron> You can't read, can you.

Yes, I read very well.  You have not found a single special
right being asked for.


   >> 
   Aaron> Imagine that.
   >> 
   >> >> >> I will not hold my breath.
   >> 
   >> >> >> There is nothing "special" about equal rights.
   >> 
   Aaron> Homosexual already HAVE equal rights.
   >> 
   >> >> No, they are not allowed to marry the willing adult of their
   >> >> choice, and are thus shut out of a large set of rights, privileges
   >> >> and responsibilities.
   >> 
   Aaron> Any man is allowed to marry any woman whom he so chooses.
   >> 
   >> Correct, if she is willing.  However homosexuals are not allowed
   >> to marry the willing adult of their choice, and that makes them
   >> second class citizens.

   Aaron> Marriage is not defined as "the adult of your choice", marriage
   Aaron> is defined as "the adult OF THE OPPOSITE SEX".  Gays are just as

Exactly, which is why gays are second class citizens with less
than equal rights.

   Aaron> free to participate as non gays.

Nope, they are not allowed to marry the willing adult of their
choice, and hence have to pay considerably higher taxes.

   Aaron> Any woman is allowed to marry any man whom she so chooses.

   Aaron> All gays have these rights, just like anybody else.

   >> Nope, the rest of us have the right to marry the willing adult
   >> partner of our choice.

   Aaron> See above.

I did, it proved my point.


   Aaron> Any additional laws are Special Privileges.

   >> >> I have yet to see a single special right or privilege being
   >> >> asked for.

   Aaron> You wish to escape the consequences of your deviancy.

   >> No, I want all to have equal rights.

   Aaron> You have them, now sit down, and shut the fuck up, LOSER.

I do, gays do not.  That is wrong.


-- 
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:34:49 -0400

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 22 May 2001 15:15:03 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> >>
> >> Aw, suck my dick, you little right wing turd. I'll insult little
> >> phoney fuckheads like you all I want. I've earned my rights to
> >> criticize little bastards like you.
> >
> >I hope you get your wish for nationwide gun ban.  Then me and all my
> >rightwing gunnut friends can legally invade your home and totally
> >trash it out looking for yours.
> 
> Apparently you are unaware that doing such a thing is illegal,
> and a ban on guns would not change that situation. In fact, even without
> a gun, according to what I have read lately, he would be legally
> entitled to anally electrocute you.


Evidently, you haven't noticed that the POLICE and the (all volounteer) ARMY
and MARINES are all, according to the anti-gun people, "right wing gun nuts"


Who the fuck is going to enforce this gun ban, other than the POLICE,
the ARMY and the MARINES?





> 
> >> Oh, you're a SOLDIER! So fucking what? Plenty of us have been soldiers,
> >> and I doubt that many have been as much of a sad sack as you. Soldiers
> >> are like any other population - there are some great ones, and there are
> >> some losers - like YOU.
> >
> >I was decorated 9 times in my first 3 years of service.
> >what does that tell you
> 
> You own some little ribbons you like to flaunt when you're among
> other slaves of the system? I find that ritualistic behaviour
> akin to baboon's exposure of erect penises as sign of authority.
> 

Commendation for work well done.

Work which I *CHOSE* to get into.



> --
> Roberto Alsina


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "G. Roderick Singleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.advocacy,alt.os.unix,alt.unix
Subject: Re: Solaris 8 vs 7/2.x....
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:42:04 GMT

Not a StarOffice issue.

Raymond N Shwake wrote:
> 
> "Sphinx367" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >Well it will very interesting to see what happens now that Sun's latest and
> >greatest can be downloaded (or bought inexpensively) and installed/tested on
> >home or business machines at will (for evaluation purposes).
> 
>         Unlike the "personal use" or "development only" licenses sometimes
> offered, this is a full use, unlimited user offering for as many boxes you
> want to install it on within your organization up to 8 CPUs.
> 
> >                                                             I've never even
> >heard of Microsoft "giving away" a fully-featured OS in this manner. I'd
> >imagine that this oppurtunity will give many Windows "addicts" who are
> >interested in the various Unix distributions the "push" to switch over to
> >Unix. Does anyone else have any comments or ideas on what effect offering
> >Solaris 8 for free might have on the balance between Unix and Windows OS
> >usage, particularly with regard to business (OR home) use?
> 
>         Microsoft does not give anything away - certainly not the cash cows
> that are the operating systems and applications, though they are often
> "bundled" with (and priced into) a PC or server. It's now clear, though,
> that Windows is now the most expensive operating system available for the
> desktop now that Linux and Solaris are available for free download or low
> cost media. (SCO's OS5 and UnixWare offerings are/were personal use only,
> but still cheaper than Windows.)
> 
>         Considering what I long ago paid for my copies of SCO's Xenix,
> MicroPort's V/AT and Interactive UNIX, this is definitely a great time to
> be playing/working with UNIX.

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
G. Roderick Singleton, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
________________________________________________________________________________
"Ninety percent of our student body has no place even in high school.
We can't give them intelligence. All we can do is confer degrees."
E. Hoffman Price

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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:43:16 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the 

JS \\ PL wrote:

> Well after half a day checking out the new XP OS, I have to say IT KICKS
> MANDRAKE ASS!!
> Internet connection stays when switching users!

You mean you lose your internet connection whenever you log out? It's
the way you have KDE set up that is at fault, because kppp is exiting
when you logout.  But you should be able to login to your provider with
a command-line equivalent of ppp, so that your internet connection will
stay up once you start it, no matter who logs in or out.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: 22 May 2001 19:44:27 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Michael Marion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>>
>> > If Microsoft wants to earn the same respect as the likes of NCR, UNISYS or
>> > Xerox, then maybe they should start porting IE to more than just Mac,
>> > Windows and a few obscure UNIX's.

> Yeah, you know, those "few obscure UNIX's" like Solaris, HP-UX,
> and Digital Unix.

> If those are obscure, what's your definition of common?


>> They might also try doing a half way decent job in those ports too.  I've
>> tried all the IE versions for Solaris, and it makes Netscape look like one of
>> the best apps ever written.

> Really?

> Netscape runs about 40% of time on my Solaris box here at work.
> Most of the time, I click the web-browser button and nothing
> happens or I just get a core dump.

> I only use IE on Solaris now because it's the only thing that
> works! It's pretty decent, actually. It renders pages as they
> are supposed to appear rather than destroying them like
> Netscape, and it doesn't have that annoying refresh problem
> when resizing the window.

> -c

You are lying, chad.   You dont have a solaris box at work.

If you do, please post from it.  If you're lying, please continue
in abject silence.




=====.


-- 
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"

---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:50:18 -0400

Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >But these are for the processing efficiencies... not the actual
> > >instruction set.
> > >Hp did say on their web site that the PA series can execute the IA-64
> > >instruction set.
> > >What Hp didn't say was if an emulator was needed or not.  But emulating
> > >another processor would only be slow, so I don't think that this is what
> > >Hp is doing.
> >
> > I don't think so either and I'd just like to say for the record
> > that Erik Fuckbush is full of shit.
> >
> > The pins are the same between the two chips.
> 
> Then it should be quite easy for you to provide two links, one the pinout of
> the PA-RISC and one the pinout of the Itanium to show they are the same,
> right?
> 
> If you can't do that, then you don't know what the fuck you're talking
> about.
> 
> > They are the same chip.
> >
> > Finally, I was working with chip cpu's before you were born
> > EF.
> 
> I doubt that, since there were no Integrated circuits before I was born.

And yet, you babble on like someone who never breathed a lungful of
air until after the Motorola 68000 series came into production....


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:51:23 +0100

> Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 21 May 2001 
>>All EMR in a vacuum travel at the same speed "C" , which is for all
>>practical purposes is the speed of light.
> 
>    [...]
> 
> The speed of "radiation" is not at issue; I don't think "radiation" has
> a speed.  Also, it is rather apparent we couldn't possibly be talking
> about what might satisfy anyone "for all practical purposes", given we
> are discussing the duality of light.  Claiming not to measure a wave or
> a particle but 'radiation' is just begging the question.

Radiated heat tavels at the spped of light since it is yet again an EM
wave.

-Ed



-- 
(You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.)               (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)

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