Linux-Advocacy Digest #649, Volume #32 Mon, 5 Mar 01 06:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... ("Frank Crawford")
Sometimes, when i run Windows (Bobert Big Bollocks)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... ("Frank Crawford")
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (Glitch)
Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows... (Glitch)
Re: If I delete using rm? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: NT vs *nix performance (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: NT vs *nix performance (Aaron Kulkis)
What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: NT vs *nix performance (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: GPL Like patents. (Ian Pulsford)
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From: "Frank Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:01:03 +0000
> Besides, UNIX never was on the desktop. Now it is. They haven't succeded
> in killing off anything, and now with Linux+GNU+GPL, they never will.
I totally agree. Never have I known so many people using unix on a
desktop. Previously `unix-desktop' meant some sparc nightmare or other, now
it means linux. And I don't mean just engineers and scientists (like
myself) I've seen lots people from marketing / product design etc.. using
linux because of the applications available (e.g. GIMP). Less computer
lirate people who work in environments where sharing files between
themselves is their only concern now find the Linux+StarOffice
combination a `breath of fresh air'.
Unix on a desktop was never very available to people until now.
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From: Bobert Big Bollocks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sometimes, when i run Windows
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:19:04 GMT
It crashes :)
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From: "Frank Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:16:35 +0000
> I have a single CPU, 2.2 is just fine..
Yeah, me too, It's just that now linux really kicks ass on multi-processor
systems too (on MP systems 2.2.x was ok (~NT), 2.4.x is *amazing* (>NT).
Performance on MP machines was 2.4's main brief, no? consolidate/dominate
server market).
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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:23:51 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
ono wrote:
>> OK, everyone knows this one. It's not a command shell. I'm speaking of
>> a full-featured command-line shell with filename completion, complete
>
> They actually have completion (files. Just type cmd /? and read. As a linux
> gui you
> should be able to read.
>
> As I'm sure that you have no access to w2k default shell. I'm doing a
>
no i don't have access. I shouldn't have to shell out $200+ for the same
tools I can get for free under Linux.
Can u tell me why I'd pay anything, let alone $200+, for Win2k to get
the tools I can get for free with another product?
WHy can't Microsoft put these same tools in Windows 98 or ME?
Do I not deserve them if I'm not a sys admin or a corporation?
>> help cmd > con for you:
>
>
> I'm truly surprised they added so many features in the last few years. Must
> be because all
> those ex unix guys are demanding stuff like that.
>
>
[big snip of 'cmd' options under win2k]
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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:30:21 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sometimes, when I run Windows...
sandrews wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Donn Miller
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sometimes, when I run Windows............
>
> I want to choke Bill Gates
i've already vowed to kill him if I ever meet him.
So if u ever hear he was murdered....
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If I delete using rm?
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:36:15 -0500
Mike wrote:
>
> "Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Kulkis) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Ahh. Did that occasion involve a '*' and a mistyped space?
>
> Funny you should mention that. Our corporate standard configuration for our
> Unix workstations includes the Unix standard keyboard, which seems made for
> this error - and it happens all the time. The period is directly above the
> space bar, and the backspace is directly above the return key. If your right
> hand is shifted slightly, it's rather easy to hit the space key instead of
> the period, and then hit the return key instead of the backspace when trying
> to correct it. Or, to accidentally hit both the period and space, without
> realizing it, leading to lines like rm * .txt.
That sounds like a pretty lame excuse.
I've used countless different keyboard configurations, often several
within the same day, and never had such difficulties, nor have I ever
heard of anybody else who touch types having such difficulties within
the same environment (university campus)
>
> -- Mike --
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:44:43 -0500
Quantum Leaper wrote:
>
> "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> >
> >
> > > But your IQ theory only applies to those in the 50 to 120 range.
> > > Since I'm 160 I can see the obvious. There's no possible monopoly
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Is your IQ scored in dog points?
>
> Do either of you know what an IQ test really measures? (Hint it not how
> smart you are...)
You idiot.
Please name *ONE* person who scores highly on IQ tests who is also a retard.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:50:52 -0500
Quantum Leaper wrote:
>
> "JS PL" <js@plcom> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:3Txo6.50340$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JS PL wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > But your IQ theory only applies to those in the 50 to 120 range.
> > > > > Since I'm 160 I can see the obvious. There's no possible monopoly
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >
> > > > Is your IQ scored in dog points?
> > >
> > > Do either of you know what an IQ test really measures? (Hint it not how
> > > smart you are...)
> >
> > If you don't know, look it up. (hint, you don't even need to get out of
> your
> > chair)
> >
> Maybe trying to expand your pea size brain may help you understand. If IQ
> test really measured intelligence, try giving the IQ test to a foreigner who
> speaks the same langauge. See what happens....
You are truly an idiot. What you're talking about is MIS-APPLICATION
of an IQ test. All you're proving is that the foreigner is not totally
proficient in the local langauge.
By your logic, physics is invalid because if I were to give you a
physics test written in Swahili, the results show you to have far
less knowledge of physics than what you really have.
*IF* IQ tests are supposedly invalid, then why do the scores correlate
sooooooo well with everything we know about the differences between
being smart and being an embecile? Such as incarceration for crimes,
social status, income, etc.
High IQ people figure out better how to stay out of jail, and how to
maximize their social status, income, etc. better than low-IQ people.
Which is exactly what anybody with a whit of common sense could guess.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: What does IQ measure?
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:53:04 -0500
Quantum Leaper wrote:
>
> "JS PL" <js@plcom> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:3Txo6.50340$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JS PL wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > But your IQ theory only applies to those in the 50 to 120 range.
> > > > > Since I'm 160 I can see the obvious. There's no possible monopoly
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >
> > > > Is your IQ scored in dog points?
> > >
> > > Do either of you know what an IQ test really measures? (Hint it not how
> > > smart you are...)
> >
> > If you don't know, look it up. (hint, you don't even need to get out of
> your
> > chair)
> >
> Maybe trying to expand your pea size brain may help you understand. If IQ
> test really measured intelligence, try giving the IQ test to a foreigner who
> speaks the same langauge. See what happens....
All you're proving is that giving a test to someone in a language
in which they are not proficient produces innaccurate results.
IQ-tests measure what psychologists call intelligence, which they
represent with the symbol "g".
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:54:42 -0500
"Norman D. Megill" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Sharing with your friends so that they
> > can make copies" is *NOT* authorized copying under the copyright
> > laws...OF ANY PERIOD in US history.
>
> This is a common misconception that the RIAA wants you to believe. In
> fact making a copy of an audio recording is perfectly legal in the US,
> even if you don't own the original recording, as long as it is for
> noncommercial purposes. The reason for this is the Audio Home Recording
> Act (AHRA).
>
> Since 1992, the U.S. Government has collected a tax on all digital
> audio recorders and blank digital audio media manufactured in or
> imported into the US, and gives the money directly to the RIAA
> companies, which is distributed as royalties to recording artists,
> copyright owners, music publishers, and music writers:
Interesting.
In that case, fuck the RIAA.
>
> http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch10.text.html
>
> In exchange for those royalties, a special exemption to the copyright
> law was made for the specific case of audio recordings, and as a result
> *all* noncommercial copying of musical recordings by consumers is now
> legal in the US, regardless of media:
>
> http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/1008.html
>
> "No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of
> copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a
> digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an
> analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the
> noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making
> digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings."
>
> The intent of Congress was clear when this law was passed:
>
> http://www.cni.org/Hforums/cni-copyright/1993-01/0018.html :
>
> From House Report No. 102-873(I), September 17, 1992:
>
> "In the case of home taping, the [Section 1008] exemption protects all
> noncommercial copying by consumers of digital and analog musical
> recordings."
>
> From House Report No. 102-780(I), August 4, 1992:
>
> "In short, the reported legislation [Section 1008] would clearly
> establish that consumers cannot be sued for making analog or digital
> audio copies for private noncommercial use."
>
> Therefore, when you copy an MP3 the royalties have already been paid for
> with tax dollars in accordance with the law. If you are a musician
> whose recordings are publicly distributed, then you are entitled to your
> share of these royalties by filing a claim under Section 1006
> ( http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/1006.html ).
>
> Now, this law does not apply to Napster, which is a commercial company.
> But as a consumer you are perfectly within your rights when you make a
> copy for noncommercial private use.
>
> --Norm
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GPL Like patents.
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:03:44 +1000
mlw wrote:
>
> GPL provides a mechanism to properly compensate the community for the product
> of the community, i.e. contribute your modifications.
>
> People argue that this is a form or communism, I think it is the strongest form
> of capitalism. GPL code represents a capital investment. (either time and/or
> money) If you wish to use GPL code, you MUST compensate the copyright owner. By
> releasing something GPL, the copyright owner has agreed that adequate
> compensation can consist sharing changes, OR (and this is the important part)
> you can negotiate another licensing scheme with the copyright owner.
How does that make it more or less like capitalism or communism? I
suggest that making comparisons between a software license and political
ideology are a false analogy and waste of time.
> You are free not to use GPL if you don't want too.
> You are free not to use GPL software if you don't want too.
> However:
>
> Don't expect any sympathy if you want to use GPL software, for free, and then
> charge for your changes. Why should you be able to capitalize on the work of
> others without sharing in the cost? Anything less WOULD be communism.
It's just a software license. But since you're having a go at other
open-source licenses: why should you not be able to capitalize on the
work of others without sharing in the cost if that is the aim of the
permissive license? Why is giving away something for free communism?
IanP
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