Linux-Advocacy Digest #641, Volume #33 Mon, 16 Apr 01 14:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Scott Erb)
Re: Has Linux anything to offer ? (David Goldstein)
Re: Microsoft gets hard (Chad Everett)
Re: Has Linux anything to offer ? (Chad Everett)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Henry
Glenworthy")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (John Gregor)
Re: A mentality problem of linux programmer. (Stefan Ohlsson)
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, Communist
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) (Mathew)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Mathew)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Chad Everett)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Chad Everett)
Re: Why Bill Gates Is Ramming His Thick Meaty Cock Up Torvald's Weak Mincing Ass
(Stefan Ohlsson)
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From: Scott Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:38:23 -0400
Jim Richardson wrote:
> The keyword you are looking for is dictatorship...
> Surely you don't expect an anarchist to approve of any state run regime?
> or were you trying to claim that there is no similarity between fascism and
> communism? which was the point of my post. If you wish to say that there are
> (or were) some right leaning dictatorships as bad as the some left leaning
> ones, I'd agree, but that doesn't make the left leaning ones any less horrible.
You raise some good points -- dictatorship in the name of Allah or Jesus
or any cause or creed shares some commonality in that centralized
governmental power enforces the beliefs of the leaders about how their
ideology should be implemented.
Fascism and Communism as *ideologies* are very different. In practice,
things get murky. Socialist Kurt Schumacher, who (like most Social
Democrats) fought against Communists and Fascists in street fights in
Weimar Germany, and then was imprisioned by fascists for 12 years, after
which he fought against the Communist take over of East Germany, called
Stalinists and Soviet style communism "red lacquered fascism." He
didn't see a difference, he thought they were both fascist. Yet he was
a proud socialist and Marxist.
So the point is that we can compare ideologies (in which case fascism
and communism are very different), governmental practices based on the
labels given (in which case there are some similarities, though as
fascism is an ideology based on irrationalism and anti-reason, it can
range from Franco's conservative pro-church fascism to Hitler's rabid
racism), or idealized views of how that ideology should look in practice
(whereas democratic socialists regard the East bloc as opposed to their
values). In any case, debates like these unfortunately tend to become
ones where labels are used to insult or ridicule, rather than understand
the differences between systems and how they function.
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Has Linux anything to offer ?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:23:18 -0700
webgiant wrote:
<snipped>
>>> >Some people like it because they like having the power and stability
>>> >of a UNIX system.
>>>
>>> win2k is VERY stable. The stability claim is getting too old now.
>>> need to find a new one.
I was running W2K advanced server on my PC at home. Whenever I would
access the net, the system would crash and the only possibility that
existed was to hit the reset button. Granted, the true problem was
probably the DSL driver; however, the system should not crash to the point
where a hard reset is necessary. That is typical MS stability.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:42:13 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:02:00 -0400, JS PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> JS PL wrote:
>> >
>> > "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > > Of course there's a name for companies that trusted Microsoft as a
>> > busniess
>> > > partner...extinct!
>> >
>> > Which one is extinct? There's about 32,000 Certified Business Partners
>> > Organizations. And about 6 million developers using Microsoft
>Development
>> > tools.
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/business/partners/
>> > Which one became extinct? Ass.
>> >
>> > You really shouldn't Drink & Write.
>> IS that 6 million MSDN subscribers? I would say there is more Linux
>> developers out there, that don't need the fancy $5000 mecharno kit to
>> prove to their mates that they can program. Oh, and btw, I have a SUN
>> developer connection subscription, and compared to the Microsoft shit,
>> it is worth every dollar, esp the support SUN provides, real engineers
>> helping programmers. Not the Microsoft help when you just have some
>> half witt reading out a help file to you.
>
>
>More than 6 million Linux developers! I think not. I submit that there are
>not even 6 million Linux USERS!!
Well then you would be wrong.
>Linux.org claims that there are 12 million. After reading the incredible
>straw grasping that is used to come up with those numbers, such as counting
>documents found for Linux at AltaVista! Or,counting unique "From" posts in a
>Linux newsgroup and extrapolating it out by a "wholly guessed at"
>multiplier! I would guess that it's about one tenth of what is claimed or
>1.2 million at most.
>
That's really a bad guess. What other things are you guessing at?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Has Linux anything to offer ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:50:38 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:23:18 -0700, David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>webgiant wrote:
>
><snipped>
>
>>>> >Some people like it because they like having the power and stability
>>>> >of a UNIX system.
>>>>
>>>> win2k is VERY stable. The stability claim is getting too old now.
>>>> need to find a new one.
>
> I was running W2K advanced server on my PC at home. Whenever I would
>access the net, the system would crash and the only possibility that
>existed was to hit the reset button. Granted, the true problem was
>probably the DSL driver; however, the system should not crash to the point
>where a hard reset is necessary. That is typical MS stability.
>
My W2K pro system had a two SCSI drivers installed and I only have one
adaptec SCSI card. This caused a BSOD on me everytime I booted until
I narrowed it down to this. I agree that something like this should
not crash your entire system.
I also developed a problem where only the administrator could establish
any kind of network socket connection. After three days of looking on
Microsoft's online support and posting to newsgroups with no help whatsoever,
I was able to narrow this down to a corrupt ws32_2.dll . How it got
corrupt is beyond me.
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From: "Henry Glenworthy" <Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:10:00 -0700
"Rob Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> "Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style pure-democratic
> vote:
> All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall, and
> filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
> Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now."
> > AYES:3
> > NAYS:0
> ABSTAIN:1
> An example of the dangers of pure democracy is all well and good,
> but I reject pure democracy even if Glen advocates it and wouldn't
> vote either way on the matter; there is no moral justification for
> the action or the mass decision behind it.
>>>>
What!? You don't believe in "one person - one vote", even if
the result is the trampling of individual rights? Tsk, tsk. Shouldn't
the easily swayed, fickle general public get to determine the fate
of minorities it has suddenly grown to dislike? Shouldn't people
who drive while using a cell phone and drinking their Starbuck's
latte be shot on the spot?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 16 Apr 2001 17:13:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 16 Apr 2001 12:14:01 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>On 14 Apr 2001 17:46:36 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"T. Max Devlin"
>>>>>
>>>>>> >The truer translation is "You shall not murder". We've been through
>>>>>this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was "you shall not slay." How do you know which it is?
>>>>>
>>>>>Take your pick. Killing in war is neither illegal, unethical, nor immoral.
>>>>
>>>>And here�s something, in your own words that may clear why you are full
>>>>of odorous remainders of the digestive process:
>>>>
>>>>"killing in war is not illegal".
>>>>
>>>>a) That is not true in general
>>>>b) That requires some standard: "law" against which it can be declared
>>>> "legal" does it not?
>>>>
>>>>In 3000BC, the standard included massive rape of the women of the defeated
>>>>and mass sacrifices of the defeated soldiers.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well that's not true at all. Show us an example in 3000BC where
>>>massive rape of the defeated women occurred. Since you throw
>>>out such blatantly false statements as fact, everything you
>>>say is questionable.
>>
>>Ok, before I bother doing it: are you really saying that conquering
>>armies at and around 3000BC ddidn't do that?
>
>I assume this means you have no examples from 3000BC and that you statement
>had no foundation in the facts, which as I said, casts doubt on everything
>that you say.
Well, you can assume all you want. I am just asking, and it's good that I
did, since apparently you didn't mean that!
>I am saying that the Israelites did not. I am also stating that you have
>no evidence of any other group in 3000BC doing this either.
Ok, would you apologize if I showed evidence that I do?
> So sure, I am making the claim that in 3000BC, there was no "standard"
> that included "massive rape of women of the defeated".
Well, it was the de facto standard. Lots of people did it.
> If you have some evidence to
>show the contrary, you still will not have shown the Israelites did this,
>cause they didn't. I believe the discussion was about Jewish law as
>related to murder and warfare.
Well, if you expect the commandments to apply only in a strict israelite
context, why do you say the commandment is "you shall not murder", which
has for us a different meaning than for an israelite?
>> [- your irrelevant example from 1500BC has been snipped - ]
Well, believe it or not, there was little difference in the habits
of the people between 1500BC and 3000BC.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 16 Apr 2001 17:15:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 16 Apr 2001 12:20:25 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Roberto Alsina"
>>>
>>>> How does eating fish on fridays connect to loving my neighbour?
>>>
>>>First, why don't you tell us all where in the Bible it states red meat can
>>>not be eaten on Fridays. Then I suggest you read Acts 10:9-16.
>>
>>Who said I am a literallist?
>>Ok, how does drinking wine on sundays express my love for Christ?
>
>It doesn't.
Then why does Jesus ask his fellows to drink the wine that is his blood?
Just as an excuse to party?
I thought they were showing love for him when doing that. Maybe they just
liked the booze?
--
Roberto Alsina
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Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Gregor)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:16:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bernd Paysan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can see that Intel doesn't abuse the monopoly power,
Back in the early 90's, the ACE consortium was formed to try and
create a market for MIPS-based machines. From what I've heard, at
least one major PC vendor was interested in joining, but Intel
hinted to them that their supply of Pentiums might be in jeopardy
if they did. That's clearly an anticompetitive action and they
should have been nailed for it.
One could also argue that the games Intel has played with patenting
its processor interface could be construed as an abuse of monopoly
power. Even IBM had to open up to the "plug compatible" market.
> because Intel processor prices are constantly falling,
Just because the prices are falling does not mean there is no abuse
of monopoly power. The question is whether prices could have fallen
even more in an open market or if other innovations have been
stifled.
Still, if we're only comparing Intel to Microsoft, Intel are definitely
the "white hats".
-JohnG
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ohlsson)
Subject: Re: A mentality problem of linux programmer.
Date: 16 Apr 2001 19:19:19 +0100
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:58:09 GMT, JLI wrote:
>We have just finished a commercial product (a C/C++ SDK) and the
>setup procedure went through quite smoothly. The only thing we don't
>like is that you have to set two or three environment variables
>manually after the setup procedure. So we asked our unix programmer
>whether we can set the environment variables automatically during the
>setup procedure. The answer we got is "if someone doesn't know how
>to set an environment variable on unix, he should not program on
>unix, do they?". I didn't respond directly, but my response would be "if we
>don't know or want to do such simple work for our client, we should not
>sell software, do we?".
>
Heh, I tend to agree with you both :)
That is, a UNIX programmer should know how to set an env-variable and
also shouldn't be bothered to set up some variables some commercial
software package needs.
/Stefan
--
[ Stefan Ohlsson ] � There will always be survivors - Robert A. Heinlein � []
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From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:28:28 +1000
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> "Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy The Ghost In The Machine
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > : I am not aware of Reagan's racism; is there something I'm missing?
> > : The main campaign themes I remember are "It's Morning [Again]
> > : In America".
> >
> > According to left-wing communist assholes, anyone who tries to
> > dismantle or reform any important part of the welfare state is not
> > only eeeevil, bur racist, because left-wing communist assholes want us
> > to believe they're the only ones who can "help" poor Black and
> > Hispanic people, and that without this "help," they could not possibly
> > survive.
> >
> > Of course this "help" makes those who are being "helped" more
> > dependent upon Massa (rich mostly-white liberal assholes), and less
> > dependent upon themselves, making the problem much worse instead of
> > better. The obvious and predictable result is that Massa gains more
> > and more power while poor minority Citizens find themselves with less
> > and less.
> >
> > The Black ghetto is the one place where left-wing communist assholes
> > have had almost unchallenged power for 40 years now. It's now more
> > poor, more degraded, more self-destructive, and more violent than it
> > ever has been, and even during the upswings of a business cycle, when
> > things improve almost everyplace else, they never improve for the
> > people trapped in the ghetto. The best thing that ever happens to
> > people there is that they escape to some other place where there is at
> > least minimal safety and rule of law.
> >
> > Reagan wanted to dismantle the welfare state as quickly as possible
> > while restoring the rule of law (including basic protection of life
> > and property, something that has been lacking in inner cities ever
> > since liberal communist assholes took power) so that people would be
> > empowered to build and attend safe schools, learn job skills, enter
> > the mainstream economy, start businesses, and accumulate savings,
> > homes, and other forms of capital, all through their OWN efforts.
> >
> > Left-wing communist assholes never forgave him for that, but the
> > millions of Black and Hispanic Americans who entered the middle and
> > upper classes during his watch will always be grateful.
> >
> > BTW: although I'm white, I grew up in an inner city during this same
> > time period, and I'm one of those who was able to escape poverty and
> > become financially comfortable for the same reasons as did many Black,
> > Hispanic and other minority Americans. So I too owe much to Reagan
> > and to other Republicans whose tax cuts and other economic reforms,
> > derided by the left as only benefiting the wealthy, allowed me and
> > millions of others to escape poverty and become comfortable through
> > our own efforts.
> >
> > I do think there are a lot of evil racist bastards running around.
>
> Throughout our country's history, The overwhelming majority of
> the most evil racists have been Democrats...and, as you described
> above...this is true right up until the present.
>
> What the fuck would Democrats do if blacks were educated and could
> provide for themselves?
Let them move in to Republican neighborhoods,so they could be closer to the
people who really have love them.
>
>
>
> > But I don't think Reagan was one of them. If it were up to him, or to
> > others of like mind (myself obviously included, on this point at
> > least), we wouldn't *need* a welfare state, and we wouldn't need
> > liberal communist assholes either. Actually, if it were up to me, I'd
> > go a bit farther. I'd have a few of them (the liberal communist
> > assholes, NOT the people they're trying to "help") tried for their
> > heinous crimes against humanity, and punished very publicly if
> > convicted, as an encouragement to the rest of them to stop conspiring
> > against the rights of honest and peaceful American Citizens of all
> > races, creeds, and colors.
>
> Damned straight. Remember, Klinton committed treason. And there's
> no statute of limitations.
>
>
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > P.S. I don't agree with Reagan's "War on Drugs" though. He
> > probably didn't realize that it would be used as a pretext
> > to further erode the rights of minority and all other
> > Americans, and even by members of his own administration
> > to short-circuit the reform process in many Central and
> > South American countries. I don't for one second believe
> > that Reagan had a racist bone in his body. But the "Drug
> > War" did have some very racist effects. And sadly it has
> > the misguided support of most Americans in both parties,
> > including even a large percentage of Black Americans. This
> > is probably the only major flaw I can see in what was
> > otherwise by far the best Presidency in my lifetime.
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:29:35 +1000
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Mathew wrote:
> >
> > On 15 Apr 2001, Joseph T. Adams wrote:
> >
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > : Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style pure-democratic vote:
> > >
> > > : All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall, and
> > > : filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
> > >
> > > : Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now.
> > >
> > >
> > > I would vote for giving him a fair trial first, and a punishment that
> > > is lawful and commensurate with his crimes, when and if convicted.
> > >
> > > We should not abandon our principles just because our enemies don't
> > > have any. If we did, we'd be no better than they are.
> > >
> > > But never fear. Tyrants and would-be tyrants almost always suffer
> > > from one fatal character flaw - arrogance - that invariably proves to
> > > be their own undoing.
> >
> > Hopefully Aaron's arrogance will not do him in.
>
> I'm only arrogant to those who are arrogant.
>
> Case in point: YOU, Mathew.
Hehehehe
Surely you jest.
Tell me what I have been arrogant about.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:16:43 -0500
On 16 Apr 2001 17:13:50 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 16 Apr 2001 12:14:01 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>On 14 Apr 2001 17:46:36 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>In 3000BC, the standard included massive rape of the women of the defeated
>>>>>and mass sacrifices of the defeated soldiers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well that's not true at all. Show us an example in 3000BC where
>>>>massive rape of the defeated women occurred. Since you throw
>>>>out such blatantly false statements as fact, everything you
>>>>say is questionable.
>>>
>>>Ok, before I bother doing it: are you really saying that conquering
>>>armies at and around 3000BC ddidn't do that?
>>
>>I assume this means you have no examples from 3000BC and that you statement
>>had no foundation in the facts, which as I said, casts doubt on everything
>>that you say.
>
>Well, you can assume all you want. I am just asking, and it's good that I
>did, since apparently you didn't mean that!
>
I answered your question. Time for you to answer the question.
>>I am saying that the Israelites did not. I am also stating that you have
>>no evidence of any other group in 3000BC doing this either.
>
>Ok, would you apologize if I showed evidence that I do?
>
Is there someting to apologize for? I would certainly admit I was wrong if
you could come up with an example from 3000BC that showed a "standard" that
"included massive rape of the women of the defeated".
>> So sure, I am making the claim that in 3000BC, there was no "standard"
>> that included "massive rape of women of the defeated".
>
>Well, it was the de facto standard. Lots of people did it.
Again, you make the claim that you cannot back up with any facts or evidence.
This puts the validity of everything you say in doubt.
>
> [ -- continued flawed logic and obfuscation deleted -- ]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:17:39 -0500
On 16 Apr 2001 17:15:17 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 16 Apr 2001 12:20:25 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Roberto Alsina"
>>>>
>>>>> How does eating fish on fridays connect to loving my neighbour?
>>>>
>>>>First, why don't you tell us all where in the Bible it states red meat can
>>>>not be eaten on Fridays. Then I suggest you read Acts 10:9-16.
>>>
>>>Who said I am a literallist?
>>>Ok, how does drinking wine on sundays express my love for Christ?
>>
>>It doesn't.
>
>Then why does Jesus ask his fellows to drink the wine that is his blood?
>Just as an excuse to party?
>
He didn't
>I thought they were showing love for him when doing that. Maybe they just
>liked the booze?
>
you thought wrong.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ohlsson)
Subject: Re: Why Bill Gates Is Ramming His Thick Meaty Cock Up Torvald's Weak Mincing
Ass
Date: 16 Apr 2001 19:35:52 +0100
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:34:44 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Kelsey Bjarnason
>>Isn't this where Godwin's Law steps in? :)
>Not necessarily; I think it's only an issue if one calls one's
>debating opponent a Nazi or something. Since I haven't done that,
>it doesn't apply. :-)
>
Well, actually it does: (http://iclub.nsu.ru/jargon/frames/G/godwins-law.html)
-->
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many
groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned
the Nazis has automatically lose whatever argument was in progress.
Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound
on thread length in those groups.
<--
So, you're toast. ;-)
/Stefan
--
[ Stefan Ohlsson ] � There will always be survivors - Robert A. Heinlein � []
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