Linux-Advocacy Digest #246, Volume #35 Thu, 14 Jun 01 20:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (GreyCloud)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (GreyCloud)
Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (GreyCloud)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?) (GreyCloud)
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and (GreyCloud)
Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows (Nigel Feltham)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:53:55 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:36:31 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >Mark wrote:
>
> >> >I'd be wary of anything with that stupid fucking penguin in it. If he
> >> >wants good games, send him over to Loki's sight for some REAL games.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I like the penguin.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Kent
> >
> >I wonder where we can get some stuffed Octopi to sell to the
> >Windanistas? We could make a good profit!
>
> What are you talking about? Stuffed Octopi?
octopus...it's a Latin word...therefore, the plural is Octopi.
:-)
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:54:27 -0700
"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>
> "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thaddius Maximus
> wrote:
> > >"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Most of them feel its a lost cause. A lot of the poor see no
> difference
> > >> > in their lot after voting. A lot say there is no difference between
> a
> > >> > Republican and a Democrat...
> > >> > it's business as usual.
> > >> > I'm more interested in the local issues that affect me so I do vote.
> > >>
> > >> The US created that bastardised system, now its time for it to be
> mended. I
> > >> have always suggested that the US adopt the west minster style
> government
> > >> via a MMP setup.
> > >>
> > >> Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > >
> > >The USA is a republic system and foremost in this system is protection
> > >of inalienable rights and personal liberty. Our founding fathers were
> > >nothing short of geniuses and I like their chosen system just fine,
> > >thank you!
> > >
> >
> > Hm, I'm hoping that you're joking here? I would never suggest anyone
> > doesn't question their governmental system continuously. Failure
> > to do so will always result in far too much power lying with far too
> > few people.
>
> I don't think he's referring to the current state, or the
> way things were way back when. I think he's referring to
> the ideas and ideals that are genius. In such a case, I
> would agree, to the logical extent that such ways are the
> most realistic ideals to date.
>
> It is my contention that most politicians, be they
> Democrat, or Republican, are fscking morons. Look
> at how McCain has been waffling along. IMHO, Bush
> just happens to be one of the few exceptions to the
> rule.
>
> Did you know that out here in AZ, we actually had a Rep.
> advocating the idea of having a "state dirt"? I couldn't
> believe that one. Another case of a pot-smoking lib
> dressing like a Rep, IMHO.
I just think that McCaine has a grudge against bush.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:57:18 -0700
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Thaddius Maximus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "~�~" wrote:
> > >
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > You think conservatives want people to become educated?
> > > Look at their education bills. They don't want you to have a clue about the
> > > true history of this country. Because if you did, you'd realize what true
> > > scoundrels they are. You sound as if you are their poster boy.
> > >
> > > You need to hit the books pal, and open your mind.
> > >
> >
> >
> > For the first time in 8 years the USA has an education policy
> > under the Bush Administration. Under the Clinton Administration
> > the education policy consisted of nothing more than Slick Willie
> > chasing school girls his daughter's age.
>
> Oh yeah, and removing all trace of religious freedom at the local
> level, not to mention spreading abortion propaganda and sex
> education which consisted of teachers encouraging students to
> lie on top of each other.
>
> -c
Man, things sure have changed since I was in school!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:59:24 -0400
Bob Nelson wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Dennis Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > somebody wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone else read the latest issue of Linux Magazine? There is an interview
> >> of Dennis Ritchie complete with several photos of him sitting behind his desk at
> >> bell labs.
> >>
> >> his monitor is clearly visible-- very obviously and very ironically running
> >> ms-windows! LOL, i had to laugh!
> >>
> >> i didn't see any mention of that in the interview, but c'mon, the co-inventor of
> >> UNIX is now using Microsoft WINDOWS?!?!?
>
> > People seem to have noticed the edges of the screen, but so far
> > no one has identified the contents and origin of the very large
> > pale-yellow window with pride of place on the screen.
>
> > Dennis
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Dennis Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 04:50:57 +0000
> [...]
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Give him credit for at least using WinNT now. Not too many years ago, his
> postings in the C language groups were from Win95 using Mozilla. Although the
> author of the anti-forward in the _Unix Haters Handbook_, he didn't write a
> _Windows Haters Handbook_ in response.
>
> Of course, dmr may be mangling his headers just like Aaron Kulkis. Right? :-)
You never know.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:00:22 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:28:13 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine))
> wrote:
>
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >>clearly you are not a seasoned unix user, otherwise you will utter
> >>otherwise. Unix with tools like bash,perl,apache, grep and syslog
> >>is far more powerful than windows.
> >
> >The tools bash, perl, apache, and grep have all been ported, so this
>
> And yet they are mainly useless anywhere else.
>
> >>Windows on other hand is great for games, limited text composition
> >>and some image manipulation. Macs are far better at last two,
> >>so leaves Windows as a game platfrom with most games written for.
> >
> >I'm not even sure Windows is that great for games -- although it
> >depends on whether one wants frame rate, stability, simplicity,
> >or ubiquity. As for text composition -- what makes Windows so
> >great for that? TeX is far better, although not quite as
> >friendly (LyX helps) to the casual user.
>
> I've just downloaded that, and I'll install it when I can get all the
> dependencies and conflicts worked out. That's the good thing about
> Windows, you just download the installation programs and install it,
> you don't have to bother about all the dependencies and package
> conflicts etc.
That's why Windows machines spend more time crashing than running.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:59:08 -0700
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
> > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> >
> >>>>Hey, don't destroy his fantasy that the universe revolves around
> >>>>America.
> >>>>
> >>>Well now,... lets see what happens to the world economy if the stock
> >>>exchanges went belly up. Think your country is immune??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>When the US economy was rapidly slowing down, New Zealand was expanding at
> >>3.5-3.7%, fueled by the low dollar and increased dairy output. The US needs
> >>an export backed recovery, throw the dollar down to say, 50US Cents to one
> >>New Zealand Dollar, thus making it more competitive, imports cost more thus
> >>protect local industry ligitimately, and the trade deficit comes down.
> >>
> >>As for the stock exchange, the New Zealand has learnt from the 87 crash, but
> >>apparently, the US hasn't.
> >>
> >>Matthew Gardiner
> >>
> >
> > That is why I haven't reinvested yet. There seems to be something wrong
> > in our stock market now. The stock brokers are getting as bad as used
> > car salesmen or worse these days.
> >
>
> If you are going to re-invest, go for reliable stocks like General
> Electric, IBM, Kraft (the food topping people), Unilever and other high
> quality stocks.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
I'm going to wait until after Feb. 2000. If things are stable by then
those were most of the stocks you mentioned that I was going to invest
in. IBM has some rather exotic stuff being researched right now that is
truly amazing.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush.limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:58:50 +1200
> Other than the coffins...
>
> And the Gay-"rights" activists always running around demanding
> MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE AIDS research
>
> If Gays aren't the overwhelming victims of AIDS, then why is
> it an issue for gay activists?
>
> Hmmmmmmmm?
>
>
Well, in New Zealand I hear the gay community saying they would rather
promote more prevention, rather than the ambulance at the bottom of the
cliff senario. Maybe instead of cure, prevention would be a better way
of using the resources.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:02:25 +1200
GreyCloud wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
>>GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Hey, don't destroy his fantasy that the universe revolves around
>>>>>>America.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Well now,... lets see what happens to the world economy if the stock
>>>>>exchanges went belly up. Think your country is immune??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>When the US economy was rapidly slowing down, New Zealand was expanding at
>>>>3.5-3.7%, fueled by the low dollar and increased dairy output. The US needs
>>>>an export backed recovery, throw the dollar down to say, 50US Cents to one
>>>>New Zealand Dollar, thus making it more competitive, imports cost more thus
>>>>protect local industry ligitimately, and the trade deficit comes down.
>>>>
>>>>As for the stock exchange, the New Zealand has learnt from the 87 crash, but
>>>>apparently, the US hasn't.
>>>>
>>>>Matthew Gardiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>That is why I haven't reinvested yet. There seems to be something wrong
>>>in our stock market now. The stock brokers are getting as bad as used
>>>car salesmen or worse these days.
>>>
>>>
>>If you are going to re-invest, go for reliable stocks like General
>>Electric, IBM, Kraft (the food topping people), Unilever and other high
>>quality stocks.
>>
>>Matthew Gardiner
>>
>
> I'm going to wait until after Feb. 2000. If things are stable by then
> those were most of the stocks you mentioned that I was going to invest
> in. IBM has some rather exotic stuff being researched right now that is
> truly amazing.
>
>
Mind you, IBM has always been at the bleeding edge of technology. They
actually innovate, such as Copper in CPU's, the special silicon
technique use to reduce power consuption. There are quite a number of
innovations.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:03:05 -0700
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:04:53 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >>
> >> IOW, it was a lack of patriotism (ie: the love for one's
> >> country and its ideals) that put Europe in the shitter.
> >
> >Amen, brother!!! A country without patriotism is east pickins.
>
> It was patriotism that caused the war in the first place.
Let us put it another way.... everyone invade Holland where you live and
see if anyone will defend.
--
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:06:13 -0700
Thaddius Maximus wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Thaddius Maximus"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:9g7njd$9ko$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > > Cultured? The French/Germans/Italians are cultured, the British are
> > >> > > no more cultured than the Americans.
> > >> >
> > >> > The average levelof culture is falling rapidly, but we've got a long
> > >> > way to go to catch you guys up. Still proud to be forging a new path
> > >> > at the head of the world?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> The Conservative's had a crushing defeat :) well, it definately shows
> > >> that the British public aren't about to be sucked into the "lower tax"
> > >> hype created by the Bush admin. in the US. Well, hopefully Tony
> > >> Blaire's second term will be a good one. Oh, also, what's even better,
> > >> we know who won! unlike the US election that just dragged on and on.
> > >> Mind you, I never followed it, esp. when a nation that preaches
> > >> democracy doesn't practice it when election time rolls around.
> > >>
> > >> Matthew Gardiner
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are going to bash the US incessantly please understand that the
> > > USA is a republic and NOT a democracy.
> >
> > It's a representative democracy.
> >
>
> No, it's a republic! The term "representative democracy" is purely
> to satisfy those who cannot grasp that the USA is a republic and who
> remain committed to believing that the USA is a democracy. It's
> simply a term to satisfy the ignorant.
>
> Nowhere in the US Constitution can the word "democracy" be found,
> must less the term "representative democracy."
>
> The biggest abusers of the term democracy, embarrassingly and
> unfortunately, are US politicans.
>
> ....
The term "representative democracy" was devised by the democratic party
and the tabloid press. Repeat an error often enough and long enough and
people will start to believe in the big lie.
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:23:13 -0400
> with it. Last but not least is windows the most used OS in companies (as
> desktop OS), so if you work with an windows client in your job, you want
> to work with it at home, too.
>
Not true - I use windows in my job and this is one of the reasons I use
Linux at home. If I am forced to use unreliable crap at work then why would
I want to work with it at home as well.
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