>  >
>  > Then my other questions is:  Who supports current Heartbeat packages
>  > suitable for Pacemaker and where I can get sources for them with
>  > appropriate .spec files?
>
>  Source rpms are available at the link below:
>
>    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ha-clustering/

Got source RPM for Fedora 6.0 and used heartbeat.spec file for there
to build packages for CentOS 4.0.
With some tweaks I was able to build RPMs but not all that I wanted.
I've got these:

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1240053 Mar 19 09:20 stonith-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  203643 Mar 19 09:20
heartbeat-ldirectord-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  262921 Mar 19 09:20 heartbeat-devel-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 6229896 Mar 19 09:20 heartbeat-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  296815 Mar 19 09:21 pils-2.1.3-1.i386.rpm

I also wanted heartbeat-common, heartbeat-resources

>
>  Essentially^, it is the _official_ 2.1.3 sources with a spec file that
>  doesn't build the CRM.
>  If you have any questions about the spec file, I'd be happy to answer
>  them.
>
>  I know it would be nice if we had RHEL4 binaries too, see below, but
>  you should be able to do a rpm rebuild without issue.
>
>  ^ There are also some differences in the way the packages are
>  arranged, we took the opportunity to do a cleanup of what files went
>  where, but that shouldn't affect most people (if anyone at all).
>
>
>  > Of course it's not my business,
>
>  As one of our users, its certainly your business :-)
>
>
>  > but I think that you guys are badly hurting a whole project.
>
>  Had the split not occurred, based on recent trends, you would _still_
>  be waiting another 3,4,5 months for a release containing the fix.
>  Instead we were able to release the fix, in a release without any new
>  features!, over 2 months ago.

I'm no arguing the split, I'm arguing a complete stop for support old
version. Though I definitely do not blame than on you.

>
>  While I'd not claim the current situation is perfect (yet), I would
>  claim that things are better than they were before.
>
>
>  > For example Apache officially closed 2.0.XX
>  > branch and suggest everybody to move to 2.2.X, but they still issue
>  > bugfixes and security patches for that branch. In your case you
>  > suggest people to move to 2.1.3, which is known to have some critical
>  > bugs.
>
>  I personally don't encourage people to use the 2.1.3 CRM - we've had
>  two bug-fix releases since then and I don't like to recommend releases
>  I know to have bugs.
>  The need for a platform to release bugfixes in a timely manner is why
>  I'd been working like crazy to get the Pacemaker packages out the door.
>
>
>  > Of course you can suggest to move to Pacemaker + Heartbeat, but
>  > packages for such move are available from your site only
>
>  Thats hardly my fault ;-)
>  The world doesn't stop turning just because Alan hasn't put out a new
>  release.
>
>  Just to re-iterate though, the opensuse.org packages are built from
>  the "official" linux-ha.org sources that Alan has tested and tagged.
>  There is no reason why these packages should be any less reliable than
>  any others built from the same sources.

Per my experience management often prefers packages that come with a
distro. So a package fro RHEL from RedHat will be preferred over a
package from linux-ha.org or Suse.

>
>  And if you ever find a problem with the packaging, you'll find I'm
>  quite prompt at getting them repaired :-)
>  So far I've had very few problems reported in that area.
>
>
>  > and you don't have packages for some critical OSes like RHEL 4.0/
>  > CentOS 4.0.
>
>  At the moment we have binaries (and source packages) for 17 of the
>  most popular distro versions and 2 architectures.
>  Its unfortunate that we don't yet include your choice.
>
>  I've been trying to get CentOS4/RHEL4 added to the list, however so
>  far we've not been able to get 10 potential users to demonstrate
>  enough demand for them to be added.

I can't believe that everybody moved to RHEL 5.0. I believe that
people just install packages that come with RHEL 4.0, and use them
till they discover any hard problem.

-- 
Serge Dubrouski.
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