05.06.2013 02:04, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
> 
> On 05/06/2013, at 5:08 AM, Ferenc Wagner <wf...@niif.hu> wrote:
> 
>> Dejan Muhamedagic <deja...@fastmail.fm> writes:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:19:06PM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've got a script for resource creation, which puts the new resource in
>>>> a shadow CIB together with the necessary constraints, runs a simulation
>>>> and finally offers to commit the shadow CIB into the live config (by
>>>> invoking an interactive crm).  This works well.  My concern is that if
>>>> somebody else (another cluster administrator) changes anything in the
>>>> cluster configuration between creation of the shadow copy and the
>>>> commit, those changes will be silently reverted (lost) by the commit.
>>>> Is there any way to avoid the possibility of this?  According to
>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.highavailability.pacemaker/11021,
>>>> crm provides this functionality for its configure sessions [*], but the
>>>> shadow CIB route has good points as well (easier to script via cibadmin,
>>>> simulation), which I'd like to use.  Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Record the two epoch attributes of the cib tag at the beginning
>>> and check if they changed just before applying the changes.
>>
>> Maybe I don't understand you right, but isn't this just narrowing the
>> time window of the race?  After all, that concurrent change can happen
>> between the epoch check and the commit, can't it?
> 
> The CIB will refuse to accept any update with a "lower" version:
> 
>    
> http://clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1-pcs/html/Pacemaker_Explained/_configuration_version.html

I recall that LDAP has similar problem, which is easily worked around
with specifying two values, one is original, second is new.
That way you tell LDAP server:
Replace value Y in attribute X to value Z. And if value is not Y at the
moment of modification request, then command fails.

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