On 06/06/2013, at 2:50 PM, Vladislav Bogdanov <[email protected]> wrote:

> 06.06.2013 07:31, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> 
>> On 06/06/2013, at 2:27 PM, Vladislav Bogdanov <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 05.06.2013 02:04, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 05/06/2013, at 5:08 AM, Ferenc Wagner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dejan Muhamedagic <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:19:06PM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've got a script for resource creation, which puts the new resource in
>>>>>>> a shadow CIB together with the necessary constraints, runs a simulation
>>>>>>> and finally offers to commit the shadow CIB into the live config (by
>>>>>>> invoking an interactive crm).  This works well.  My concern is that if
>>>>>>> somebody else (another cluster administrator) changes anything in the
>>>>>>> cluster configuration between creation of the shadow copy and the
>>>>>>> commit, those changes will be silently reverted (lost) by the commit.
>>>>>>> Is there any way to avoid the possibility of this?  According to
>>>>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.highavailability.pacemaker/11021,
>>>>>>> crm provides this functionality for its configure sessions [*], but the
>>>>>>> shadow CIB route has good points as well (easier to script via cibadmin,
>>>>>>> simulation), which I'd like to use.  Any ideas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Record the two epoch attributes of the cib tag at the beginning
>>>>>> and check if they changed just before applying the changes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe I don't understand you right, but isn't this just narrowing the
>>>>> time window of the race?  After all, that concurrent change can happen
>>>>> between the epoch check and the commit, can't it?
>>>> 
>>>> The CIB will refuse to accept any update with a "lower" version:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> http://clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1-pcs/html/Pacemaker_Explained/_configuration_version.html
>>> 
>>> I recall that LDAP has similar problem, which is easily worked around
>>> with specifying two values, one is original, second is new.
>>> That way you tell LDAP server:
>>> Replace value Y in attribute X to value Z. And if value is not Y at the
>>> moment of modification request, then command fails.
>> 
>> "cibadmin --patch" works this way
> 
> Who is baking new CIB in that case, cibadmin or cib?

The patch is applied on the server - so "cib"

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