On 06/06/2013, at 2:27 PM, Vladislav Bogdanov <[email protected]> wrote:

> 05.06.2013 02:04, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> 
>> On 05/06/2013, at 5:08 AM, Ferenc Wagner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dejan Muhamedagic <[email protected]> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:19:06PM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've got a script for resource creation, which puts the new resource in
>>>>> a shadow CIB together with the necessary constraints, runs a simulation
>>>>> and finally offers to commit the shadow CIB into the live config (by
>>>>> invoking an interactive crm).  This works well.  My concern is that if
>>>>> somebody else (another cluster administrator) changes anything in the
>>>>> cluster configuration between creation of the shadow copy and the
>>>>> commit, those changes will be silently reverted (lost) by the commit.
>>>>> Is there any way to avoid the possibility of this?  According to
>>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.highavailability.pacemaker/11021,
>>>>> crm provides this functionality for its configure sessions [*], but the
>>>>> shadow CIB route has good points as well (easier to script via cibadmin,
>>>>> simulation), which I'd like to use.  Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> Record the two epoch attributes of the cib tag at the beginning
>>>> and check if they changed just before applying the changes.
>>> 
>>> Maybe I don't understand you right, but isn't this just narrowing the
>>> time window of the race?  After all, that concurrent change can happen
>>> between the epoch check and the commit, can't it?
>> 
>> The CIB will refuse to accept any update with a "lower" version:
>> 
>>   
>> http://clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1-pcs/html/Pacemaker_Explained/_configuration_version.html
> 
> I recall that LDAP has similar problem, which is easily worked around
> with specifying two values, one is original, second is new.
> That way you tell LDAP server:
> Replace value Y in attribute X to value Z. And if value is not Y at the
> moment of modification request, then command fails.

"cibadmin --patch" works this way

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