On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 08:22:35PM +0000, Julian Munoz Dominguez wrote:
I hope the rest of the dev-hams subscribees don't mind me speaking on their
behalf, but to be on the safe side assume that the contents of this message
are my opinion only, although I'm fairly confident the others would share
my view.
> Although I don't understand why the classical scheme in other areas will
> not work in hamradio: create a public mail-list for developping of
> linux hamradio applications, and have a mail-list administrator
> regarding for the off-topic messages.
Who will administer the list? What single person do we charter with
the responsibility of deciding what is relevant and what isn't?
> I am sure that "we" have lost people that could have participated in
> some developements, and lost an oportunity of a good synergie, ie.
> avoiding redundancies (ie. people doing the same software, at the same
> time..)
I don't think we have actually. The list is just a quiet quiet place
where, primarily, those people involved in the kernel support or the
directly related support such as ax25-utils can engage in some
detailed strategic and technical discussion. This list is, and proably
always will be the "think tank" where the ideas are sourced and where
most discussion takes place.
> So it's the freedom of the subscribers of this mail-list to keep on
> beeing a closed group (less closed that before, but still closed)...
> Personally I am sure that I would have learn a lot of interesting
> things reading the content of this list. Don't forget the eductional
> point of view.
It is for this reason that we discussed the notion of archiving it and
making it publicly readable. I'm not sure what happened to that idea.
> sstv, cw, dx, etc...). In a "linux-hams-dev" the only "noise" could
> come from this good people, and avoiding it is easy to filter:
> redirecting them to "linux-hams"...
I think you're being a bit idealistic. If we had a wide range of lists
related to amateur radio and Linux I'd be more inclined to believe what
you're suggesting would be the case. But while there are two I'm sure
people will be inclined to subscribe to both and will post where they
think they have the greatest chance of getting an answer.
It took linux-kernel a long while to settle down into some sort of order,
and I'm sure the developers natter to each other in private without the
rest of us knowing in any case :) I'm guessing half the reason that
linux-kernel has fallen into some sort of order is because it had
enough people that the size of the list became a problem for people
who didn't have a genuine interest in what was being discussed. We don't
have the luxury of that sort of mass.
Don't feel put out, it isn't a secret cabal, there is nothing sinister about
it, we don't discuss plans for world domination and it isn't a 'clubby' thing.
It's intended as a practical and effective solution to the problem of being
able to discuss detailed matters without people having to maintain individual
mailing lists. It doesn't matter what happens, indidivual developers will
always feel inclined to deal personally with other developers on related
matters. It's no big deal. It's been made public so that those developers
who aren't yet included can be made aware that it exists and have the
opportunity to subscribe if they so desire.
I'm sure when there is some concensus that we have a stable set of kernel
support and tools, ie when the development slows a bit, that the list will
be made public. I just don't think we're ready for that just yet.
Terry
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