Linux-Hardware Digest #384, Volume #9 Mon, 8 Feb 99 03:13:53 EST
Contents:
Re: Newbie Question (Allen)
Re: motherboard SMP compatibility (Bill Dunn)
Re: 10base-T recommendation? (MikeF)
Re: Redhat 5.2 over NT (yannickk)
Re: 10/100 Ethernet SWITCH (to be used for Fast Ethernet LAN, and (MikeF)
Xfree3.3.3 (Len Cuff)
Re: 3COM sells crippled modems (Allen)
Re: Modem problems (Owen Lloyd)
Re: Celeron vs. Cyrix (Allen)
Re: wow! 32bpp and 12 gb (Pauper9)
Re: Modem damnit. (=?Windows-1252?B?flRoZSCnZXZlbnRoIKdpZ24gfg==?=)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Newbie Question
Date: 8 Feb 1999 05:58:37 GMT
Another fairly good source of info, and objective too would be
www.tomshardware.com there is much info and explaination there, and
it will also bring you up to speed on the newer hardware too?
Allen
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:26:30 -0500, mrdata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>The majority of what you are asking about is through no suprise..... Intel. You
>might start by looking at that site......
>http://developer.intel.com/sites/developer/index.htm?iid={intelhome=developer}
>regards
>mrdata
>=========== :^)
>tami wrote:
>
>> Hello, i'm new to PC hardware and i'm looking for some documentation on
>> the standard features of pc's (esp. 486's). A few questions that the
>> document(s) should answer are:
>>
>> 1- What features are standard on most 486's? (isa slots?, bus speeds?,
>> number and type of processor registers?)
>>
>> 2- Who made those standards and who is currently setting standards for
>> current pc architecture? Is it one group?, or maybe a combination of
>> groups? Perhaps a standards organization like ISO or ANSI?
>>
>> 3- An explanation of the Master,Slave,Cable Select, DS, options when
>> connecting drives to a 486? I'd like to know who designed this and the
>> motivation for providing these options. Also what is the correct way to
>> set up a system using these options.
>>
>> You see, i've set up linux successfully but it was a largely methodical
>> process when it came to configuring the hardware correctly. I knew that
>> there were only a finite number of ways to configure the system hardware
>> so i proceeded through each configuration until i arrived at the first
>> working configuration. Needless to say this process was very
>> frustrating and i'd prefer to know exactly what it is that i'm doing and
>> why. Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.
>>
>> -tami
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Dunn)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: motherboard SMP compatibility
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:17:02 GMT
Well SMP seems to be working perfectly on my Tyan Tiger 100
Bill"haplo"Dunn
Sys Admin
Voyeurs.net
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Greenspan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to get SMP running correctly for 2 X P2 350 MHz.
>I am using a Soyo SY-D61BA motherboard with a BX chip set.
>The motherboard (not the OS configuration) seems to be the problem.
>
>Are you aware of any motherboards which support SMP mode for dual 350s ?
>
>Michael Greenspan
>
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From: MikeF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 10base-T recommendation?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:19:36 GMT
Christian Aasland wrote:
>
> My experiences... at the bottom is the reason I will never buy cheap
> net-cards again:
>
> Got a Linux running as a router between 100TX, 10baseT (still working on
> this) and cable modem... The cards break down as:
>
> 1. Cable-modem: 3Com 3c900 - PCI 10baseT. Works great! Uses the 3c59x
> "Boomerang/Vortex" driver. $42
> 2. 100TX: 3Com 3c905b - PCI 10/100. $49. Works great.
> 3. 10baseT - 3c509b - ISA, $29. Can't get it to work in Linux.
>
> The fastest machine in the house has a DECnet (Linksys) 10/100 PCI card
> that has no bus-mastering or I/O offloading (like the 3c905c Parallel
> Tasking cards have). This machine also has the highest ping time when
> connecting to our server. The two 233mmx's running 3c905b's are in the
> 10-15ms range whereas the PII/350 with the Linksys is in the 33-40ms range.
> I haven't tried swapping cards yet, but considering that all machines are
> running Win98, voodoo and 128 megs ram, I'm pretty sure the cheap network
> card is the culprit. Based on this I wouldn't reccommend buying cheap cards
> to try and save a couple $$'s.
>
> Just my $0.02 - take it for what it's worth!
>
Here's my config:
srv: 486DX2 66, 40MB ram, generic isa ne2000 eth card, debian linux 2.0.36
Client1: 486DX4 100 40MB ram, pci dlink using tulip chip, win95b
Client2: 486DX2 66, 40MB ram, generic isa ne2000 eth card win95b
On my comp (client1) pinging my linux server (srv) takes 1-2 ms. Client1 to
client2 takes 2-3 ms.
I don't know if your network was in use, but if it wasn't, it would be pretty
sad for a 486 on 10baseT pings faster than a pentium on 100baseT!!
--
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From: yannickk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 over NT
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:29:34 +0100
Hi,
The only important thing to know is for your case is :
<<< Do not choose "Worstation" automatic installation >>>
(Server is not better)
If you do this you can say bye bye to your Master Boot Record and to... NT. I
spend my night to reinstall NT
You have to create your partitions manualy. Create the boot disk. Do not let
LILO write anything in the MBR.
Take a look to the mini HOWTO Linux+NT to know how to choose a system when
you boot.
bye
yannick
Sean Connolly wrote:
> >right now i am running windows nt4.0 workstation.. i just downloaded
> >redhat 5.2 .. this sounds stupid. but i know nothing about linux.. how
> >do i get this installed? please help. i want to get rid of NT i hate it!
> >i hate windows! i also need to know where to get drivers for a 3c905b-TX
> >network card..
>
> Read all the README and INSTALL files you saw when you downloaded it.
> There a MAJOR help but it seems a lot of people either ignore them or
> overlook them :(
>
> Sean
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From: MikeF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: 10/100 Ethernet SWITCH (to be used for Fast Ethernet LAN, and
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:32:08 GMT
Christian Aasland wrote:
>
> As stated, the switches are really expensive... not really sure a full switch
> is better than a hub for small networks, as switches only prevent collisions
> on busy nets.
>
I've found that just two nodes communicating, each trying to send at the same
time will really slow down a transfer. I haven't used a switch, it may be my
cheap ethernet cards on 486s, which it itself is most probably the cause of the
slowness. Another example... both comps have dlink tulip based nics p133 <->
pII300 the collision light is almost steadily on, but transfer goes about
900KB/s. This is with nothing else happening on ether comp or the network.
--
Mike Fedyk - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Webmaster for The Flag Day Festival.
http://www.flagday.com
Debian - Linux . . . The Ultimate Windows NT service pack. :)
http://www.debian.org
"People want to have the computing equivalents of truck or heavy equipment
operators without even bothering to learn how those machines work."
/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable *
/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day*
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business!
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xfree3.3.3
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:45:03 +0000
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just downloaded all that I thought I needed. Running Suse 5.2 and
downloaded 3.3.3 from RedHat. When I do the rpm -Uvh I get
ld-linux.so.2 missing
libc.so.6 missing
libdl.so.2 missing
libm.so.6 missing
libcrypt.so.1 missing
libpam.so.0 missing
pam >= 0.59 required
xbanner required
so what did I miss/not get
I downloaded these as advised :-
>
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
XFree86-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm (required)
> XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm (required)
> XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm (required)
> XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm (required)
> XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm (required)
> XFree86-libs-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm (required)
>
>
> download these from
>
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/redhat/updates/5.2/i386/
Any clues please ??
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,comp.os.os2.comm,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 3COM sells crippled modems
Date: 8 Feb 1999 06:45:13 GMT
I was just trying to make a light-hearted point that most of the newer
machines I have around here are nearly all PCI based with the
exception of a few ISA slots. and as there isn't much benefit to most
people in the way they use a sound card, a Soundblaster16 ISA is
usualy more than good enough, though even Creative Labs is tending
toward the PCI slot cards, since the PC99 spec and beyond is trying to
do away with the legacy ISA slot all together, and most people with
newer hardware will have one or two unused ISA slots with nothing to
put in them if they don't put a modem there. BTW, My first foray
into Linux will be on an older dual PPRO systemboard with 4+4 slots,
ALL unobstructed, and I could use 5 or 6 PCI slots, since there isn't
any built-in SCSI controller on a Supermicro P6DOF board, but I'll not
likely ever use most of the ISA slots for anything but a modem, a
soundblaster16, and ??? I do realize that anyone with older hardware,
esp. 486 and before will have a different viewpoint, and since I have
to disable the on-board COM port anyway to get use of that otherwise
unused resource, I might as well plug something into it anyway, but I
pack my machine(s) up for network games elsewhere to often to want to
bother with more external gadgets:-))
Allen
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stable operating system and
Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the
world.
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http://www.linuxlink.com
(Richard Steiner) wrote:
>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:24:53 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard
>>Steiner) wrote:
>>
>>>Internal modems make no sense to me. :-) I save my slots for things
>>>that actually need that type of bus throughput like network cards and
>>>3D accelerators, and I put the modem on top of my monitor and plug it
>>>into the same 6-outlet IsoBar that the PC and monitor go into.
>>
>>Good Idea! Just as soon as I can figure out how to get this Monster2
>>3D PCI card into that ISA slot, I'll get an external modem to replace
>>my internal one? Out of curiousity, how many un-used ISA slots do
>>you have? <g>
>
>On my 486, none. All eight ISA slots are full. :-)
>
>In this PPro, I believe one ISA slot is free (I recently removed the
>extra floppy controller I was using as a tape controller), but I have
>a use for it at some point in the future. On the other PPro, two ISA
>slots are free.
>
>I have a serious bias against internal modems, mainly coming from my
>486 days (when my slots were at a premium). I like pretty lights, and
>my poor serial ports wouldn't have a purpose in life without a modem
>attached to one of them. :-)
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From: Owen Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Modem problems
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 03:13:50 +0000
Gerow wrote:
>
> Dionysus wrote:
> >
> > I have a SupraExpress56i that uses IRQ 11 and it works! What you have to do
> > is set your modem to the proper Com then from the command line type
> > setserial /dev/modem irq 9.
> >
>
> Ahh yes... Didn't know that.
>
> Besides a SupraExpress 56i is a top quality modem......
>
> Now I'll stand back and watch the flames fly from the faithful USR
> users.
Not at all mate! I have a USR modem and have tested a SupraExpress on
the same system and I found that while the two modems performed about
the same for filetransfers and geberal throughput - latency on the supra
was considerably less (about 30ms less in most cases). This is of no
relevance whatsoever for web browsing and file transfers, but for
intereactive protocols it makes a big difference. Like er playing Q2 for
eg...:=]
I'd buy one, but I reckon DSL is just around the corner in this neck of
the woods!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Celeron vs. Cyrix
Date: 8 Feb 1999 07:17:09 GMT
While I don't think Intel needs my recommendation, I would
have to lean towards the Celeron, because I think that platform (the
underlying chipset and such) is more stable, and better supported, and
may be cheaper, and with a better price/performance ratio too. I used
to be really pro Cyrix, 'till after they got bought out by National
Semiconductor, and publicly announced that they were going to focus on
the low end of the market and "let AMD and Intel slug it out at the
top"
Allen
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onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of
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The irony is that Bill Gates claims to making a
stable operating system and
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world.
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http://www.linuxlink.comOn Sun, 07 Feb 1999
23:27:29 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'd like any advice, comments on the celeron 333 (with 128 cache) vs.
>the cyrix 333 (with 512). Pluses, minuses, motherboard differences,
>etc. I know Linux will work on either, but could I get some performance
>tips? BTW, I don't intend to overclock, so that's not an issue for me.
>Thanks!
>
>Robert
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pauper9)
Subject: Re: wow! 32bpp and 12 gb
Date: 8 Feb 1999 07:54:35 GMT
Cool : ). I built mine myself too, but on more money and less performance....
MY HD (same as yours) is only 8G at the same price : ( !!!!! I shoulda waited
to upgrade it all... lol
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From: =?Windows-1252?B?flRoZSCnZXZlbnRoIKdpZ24gfg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem damnit.
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:05:17 -0500
Reply-To: =?Windows-1252?B?flRoZSCnZXZlbnRoIKdpZ24gfg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It may not be the right com port but my USR 56k v.90 set itself up as com
4 irq 10
He may be using a port the problem is when you set the USR up it doesn't
like for you to have a port selected for it to use it will select it's own.
How about a program called isapnp?
Does it work?
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Life on this planet has such limited visions.
If aliens in outerspace tapped into the Internet what would they say?
waco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:
:
:Dennis Barbier wrote:
:
:> Okay... Im not an idiot in computers but new to Linux. What the hell. I
had
:> a very frustrating night last night.
:>
:> I installed a USR 56k internal modem. This is NOT a winmodem.
:>
:> First, setup under com1, when viewing the dmesg, it picked it up saying
:> something like ttyS0 (adress) (irq4) is a 16550.
:>
:> So Ive got it set to com1, irq4.
:>
:> I ln /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem.
:> I run Minicom -s for setup. I make a config file. I change the Init
string
:> to
:> a simple ATZ.
:> Minicom freezes up.
:>
:> So I rm /dev/modem, and I try this
:> echo "ATDT5555555/n" >/dev/ttyS0 (nothing happens)
:> try the same with ttyS0 through to ttyS3, and also cua0-cua3. Nothing
:> happens.
:>
:> I tried the modem on Com1, Com2, and Com3. nothing. I know the modem
works.
:>
:> When viewing the dmesg thing, it says somethin glike "..is a 16550 with
no
:> serial options set". What does that mean? I tried running linuxconf to
find
:> a place to set options for serial devices??
:>
:> IM running 2.0.36
:>
:> Should I jumper the modem for Plug n play? =)
:> Can someone PLEASE help????
:>
:> Dennis
:
:I know how you feel pal.....
:
:I have a SupraExpress V90 internal (also not a winmodem)
:
:I had to jumper to remove PNP, then set another to set the com (com3) and
IRQ
:as 12.
:
:For Linux I found a file called serial (i'm using SuSE 5.3) I had to edit
the
:file to reflect my Com3 IRQ 12 3e8 setup....
:
:For Win 95 I had to install the modem as a com port 3 and install modem
s/w to
:reflect this
:
:this took about a week to jumble around (you can't please all of the
computers
:all the time :) )
:
:hope this helps
:
:J,
:
:
:
:
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