Linux-Hardware Digest #454, Volume #9 Wed, 17 Feb 99 22:13:29 EST
Contents:
Pace 56k fax modem/what is best 56k for linux? (Mark Hamlin)
Cheap PCI SCSI? (Dae)
Re: High end sound card - suggestions? (David Fox)
Re: Same Disk RAID and Mirroring (Andy Glew)
Re: Video Card probs. - Gateway STB, AGP 4MB Graphics Card ???? ("Tom Emerson")
Docs for TTI CTS-8510 (External Exabyte EXB-8500s) Tape Drive (Francis R Bridge)
How do I update the lilo kernel image map on my boot floppy? ("Jeff Kowalczyk")
Re: What's the Linux Lab? WAS Re: C Programming for ISA Card ("G. Pollack")
xterm in black and white (eric d'souza)
Re: X Servers (Ignis Tenebrarum)
Midi MPU-401 not working! ("Stein Magne. Bjorklund")
Re: New RedHat with linux version 3.3.3 coming soon? (G�ran Uddeborg)
Re: SiS 6326 not recognized?? (Andri Saar)
Re: Will 3Dfx voodoo2 work? (Andri Saar)
2.2.0/2.2.1 SMP kernel problem (L/R)
Sound card, "device in use"? ("Chris Podurgiel")
Re: Linux and "Winprinters" (Tim Henstock)
Re: Run X on a Toshiba laptop? ("John Dalnes")
Re: fujitsu mo problem solved (Pas Moi)
Linux on Compaq Presario 5670 ("Mark S Adams")
Re: kanji keyboards (Pas Moi)
Re: quantum 12Go HD compatibility ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Mark Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pace 56k fax modem/what is best 56k for linux?
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:02:04 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I feel almost insane asking this as I have a list as long as my arm of
problems that need sorting on my box, but I'm on a shoestring budget so
here goes.
I have a 56k Pace fax modem, for a Mac. I can get/make a lead and get
the drivers to run it on the PC with windows, will it work with
Linux?????
If not what is the best modem to use, I see 3 com mentioned on the
hardware support/drivers page on linux.org. Is there a particular
model/make. Faxing is definately an issue. I don't know much about
voice mail but if there is a good solution I might make use it.
Mark
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From: Dae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cheap PCI SCSI?
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:00:36 -0500
Is there a Lowcost (hoping for around $50 USD) PCI SCSI card I can get
that will allow me to hook up, CD-RW,ZIP, scanner, and possble and
internal HD that will work with Linux (Red Hat 5.2) with little/so
problems with setup?
TIA- Dae/MD
Phat Fish Website
http://www.attach.net/users/webster
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: High end sound card - suggestions?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 15:53:57 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John F. Opie) writes:
> On 12 Feb 1999 02:48:50 -0800, d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d
> u (David Fox) wrote:
>
> >Ken Kubota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> I am looking for a high end sound card supported by both Linux and
> >> Windows. Do you have any suggestions?
> >
> >[I hope this isn't a repost.] I have a Turtle Beach Fiji which has
> >very good fidelity, better than the Creative Labs cards I've tried.
> >The driver is a little tricky to set up, but I have built an RPM
> >package that seems to do the trick. I actually have two of the cards
> >in two different systems, and both sound good though one has a bit of
> >crackling at times. I'm planning on reshuffling my cards to see if
> >there is interference coming from the video adapter.
> >
> >I would assume it works in windows too.
>
> PMFBI, but...
??
> I am looking at moving to another system (current one doesn't fit the
> compatability list worth a damn) and one of the things I will be using
> it to is to convert my enormous tape collection (ca 3000 cassettes) to
> CD-Rs for archiving purposes.
>
> How does the Turtle Beach handle HD recording? Any experience with
> denoising and filtering packages that remove tape hiss and artifacts?
I haven't done this, but I hope to. It does have an analog input, and
I would presume it to be of high quality relative to the "mass market"
cards like the sound blasters, since the output stage is of higher
quality. ("Sound blaster" -- even the name is lo-fi.) That's all I
know, sorry. Anyone else?
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: Andy Glew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,comp.arch.storage,alt.os.linux,comp.periphs
Subject: Re: Same Disk RAID and Mirroring
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:20:18 -0600
Peter da Silva wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Glew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >A recent issue of IEEE Computer (I think) has a paper that proposes
> >allocating a separate disk, or a portion of the local disk, as a disk
> >cache.
>
> Sort of like a journalled file system?
Yes, but at the disk controller level, not at the filesystem level.
> And then the next step is to not bother moving the blocks, and you're looking
> at logfs/Advfs/WAFL.
>
> No?
Sure - if you want to give up locality.
The authors of the IEEE Computer paper give references as to how log based
filesystems are okay for write locality, but tend to have worse read locality.
Restructuring read mainly blocks for read locality is a win.
I don't think that logfs restructures for read locality. Do the others?
The advantage of log structured filesystems, as opposed to doing it in the
controller, is that you don't have to make a hard decision how much space
to dedicate to the log buffer.
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From: "Tom Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Card probs. - Gateway STB, AGP 4MB Graphics Card ????
Date: 18 Feb 1999 00:12:19 GMT
That's the exact same make/model I have in front of me as I write this
[but, being a computer supplied by where I work, I'm currently working in
windows]. The AGP card is an OEM variant of the STB Velocity 128 (riva
chipset, I believe) The cheapbytes redhat 5.2 worked like a charm setting
it up for X, but with the minor annoyance of white "static" when moving
windows in X.
Unfortunately, "even though" it is a "name-ish" brand
(Dell/Compaq/Gateway), more often than not what you get is whatever the
manufacturer could "put together" that week -- we ordered something like 30
identical units for where we work, but not wanting to "swamp" the guy doing
the installation, we asked that they ship a few each week -- you guessed
it, the first week we got 233's w/4gig drives; next week the 233's were
"obsolete", so for no increase in price the new CPU's were 266's; oh, and I
hope you don't mind, but we've sent 8gig drives instead of 4gig drives and
still didn't change the price... [the lucky people who waited until the
LAST computers arrived got 300mhz machines because the 266's were
"obsolete" -- talk about a busy MONTH!]
As to video under X, I'm getting at least 1024x768 -- my eyes really can't
handle 1280x1024, no matter WHICH OS I use...
Ramd0g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article <7afgfb$2ft6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hey,
> Anyone have any experience w/ a Gateway G6-233 w/ a AGP Graphics
Card.
> I can run X Window but I know I can get a better resolution than what I
am
> currently getting. I know the card is an STB but Gateway hasn't been
much
> help in giving me the chipset or any other vital information. Anything
that
> might help would be much appreciated. You can post your reply, but email
> would be better. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks,
> Ramd0g
>
> P.S.- I don't have the specs Gateway gave me, but if you think you might
> know something, I'd be happy to mail them to you or post them.
>
>
>
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From: Francis R Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Docs for TTI CTS-8510 (External Exabyte EXB-8500s) Tape Drive
Date: 17 Feb 1999 09:57:04 -0600
I'm looking for the dip-switch settings for a Transitional Technologies Inc
CTS-8510 8 mm external SCSI tape drive. Does anyone know the switch
settings, or better yet have a manual for it? I checked the TTI home page
(www.ttech.com), but they don't have anything. The Exabyte site has a
world of information on their products, but the the third-party external
versions like this. The switch is a 12-bit dip switch that among other
things sets SCSI ID and emulation mode. It has no markings.
This is not really Linux-specific, but I figured Linux users might be more
likely to use a workstation-grade drive like this.
Thanks,
Frank Bridge
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From: "Jeff Kowalczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I update the lilo kernel image map on my boot floppy?
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:16:08 -0500
I have a new kernel, but I have to use a boot disk at the moment, due to a
bios limitation on this 486. This is RH5.2, and I'm trying to get the boot
disk to load the 2.2.1 kernel I just built.
I have the 2.2.1 image copied over there, and I updated the lilo.conf on the
floppy's /etc dir, how do I run lilo to update on the floppy, not the hard
drive??
In the floppy root, (/mnt/floppy) I have:
vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7 vmlinuz-2.2.1
/boot
boot.0200 boot.b map message
(what exactly is the map file?)
/dev
fd0 hda6
/etc
lilo.conf
lilo.conf reads:
===============================================
boot=/dev/fd0
timeout=100
prompt
image=/vmlinuz-2.2.1
label=linux
append="mem=20M"
root=/dev/hda6
image=/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
label=linux-old
append="mem=20M"
root=/dev/hda6
image=/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
label=rescue
append="load_ramdisk=2 prompr_ramdisk=1"
root=/dev/fd0
However, the only choices at boot time are linux and rescue, which means my
experiments with the various lilo switches have been unsuccssful. Help?
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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.dev.c-programming,linux.dev.serial
Subject: Re: What's the Linux Lab? WAS Re: C Programming for ISA Card
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:14:36 -0500
Norm Dresner wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a URL for the "linux lab" project?
> Thanks
> Norm
>
> Mike Mangan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > try the linux lab project.
> > good luck.
> > -mike
> >
htp://www.llp.fu-berlin.de
--
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University
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From: eric d'souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xterm in black and white
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:15:31 +0000
Hi,
can anybody help us poor unix types venturing into linux ?
We want to use caldera open Linux 1.3 as a remote X server for SGI IRIX systems.
The xterms we see are all in black and white, even locally
Hardware is a S3VirgeDX video card with XF86_SVGA X server (the recommended one)
The rest of the box is a 300Mhz Celeron with 128 MB ram.
So far the best X server is labtam's xwinpro running on NT !
cheers
Eric
glassworks, london
www.glassworks.co.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ignis Tenebrarum)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X Servers
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:34:17 +0100
Reply-To: [NOSPAM]@ignis_dot_tenebrarum_at_skynet_dot_be
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:26:13 -0600, Evgueni Tzvetanov wrote:
>Not listed - not supported. Don't forget that...
In 3.3.3.1, the Verite 1000 is _both_ listed and supported, only the card
sucks.
--
"Slaves are those of this world
Given freedom to lay chains upon The Master" Emperor
"De meeste mensen zouden geen vlieg kwaad doen omdat ze te stom zijn om er
een te vangen."
e-mail: ignis {DOT} tenebrarum {AT} skynet {DOT} be
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From: "Stein Magne. Bjorklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Midi MPU-401 not working!
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:10:57 +0100
-- having problem using my MIDI-cards
I have one GUS classic 3.7 with MIDI-adapter
and one Roland MPU401 IPC MIDI-interface.
Can I use both midi-interfaces ?
Does OSS support GUS-midi-interface.
I`m not able to make use of my midi-syth with any of these.
To be frankly I`m not shure how.
Tryed playmidi on device 1 and 0 bu it gave me only this:
playmidi -D 1 bluejam.mid
Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by
Takashi Iwai
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details please see the file COPYING.
playmidi: No playback device found.
I`m not shure that this could work, but.....
cat bluejam.mid >/dev/sequencer
cat: write error: Device not configured
Here is my soundstat:
OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver compiled into kernel
Kernel: Linux steins 2.2.0 #3 Tue Feb 16 20:32:38 CET 1999 i586
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Type 4: Gravis Ultrasound
Type 25: GUS PnP
Type 5: Roland MPU-401
Card config:
Roland MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 7 drq 0
Gravis Ultrasound at 0x220 irq 5 drq 3
Audio devices:
0: Ultrasound
Synth devices:
0: Gravis UltraSound 3.7 (1024k)
Midi devices:
0: MPU-401 1.5U Midi interface #1
1: Gravis UltraSound Midi
Timers:
0: System clock0:
1: MPU-401 Timer
Mixers:
0: ICS2101 Multimedia Mixer
Using: Linux version 2.2.0
I hope any out there can help me!
--
__________________________________________________________________
Stein Magne. Bj�rklund
Linux SuperDuper Systemer
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (priv)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (job)
Tel: 77686702/91648530 (priv)
77665521 (job)
Norge/Norway
__________________________________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G�ran Uddeborg)
Subject: Re: New RedHat with linux version 3.3.3 coming soon?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 17:52:45 +0100
Hugh McCurdy randomly punched a keyboard and produced:
>Phil Jones wrote:
>> know when RedHat will put out a package with the
>> linux 3.3.3? Thanks.
>>
>I think you mean v3.3.2 vs v3.3.3 of XFree86.
>
>No, I don't know when RH release their next version.
But 3.3.3.1 of XFree86 is already available as an update. Take a look
at
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/rh52-errata-general.html#XFree86
x
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:56:05 +0200
From: Andri Saar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SiS 6326 not recognized??
Jim Moser wrote:
> When I downloaded the new XFree package (above) doesn't that include the
> matching 3.3.3.1 SVGA server?
Nope. SVGA server is in package XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3.1.blablabla.rpm...
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:54:21 +0200
From: Andri Saar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Will 3Dfx voodoo2 work?
X should ignore Voodoo or any 3D accelerator entirely.
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From: L/R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.0/2.2.1 SMP kernel problem
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:47:04 +0100
I'm testing 2.2.0/2.2.1 SMP kernel on Tyan Tomcat III 1563D (166MM
dual)
but my system crashes with internal and external cache bios settings
enabled.
Only disabling the settings Linux becomes very stable....
Is it a known problem for Tyan boards?
I have an Award Bios v. 4.01 , are there particular settings to solve
the problem?
Thanks
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From: "Chris Podurgiel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound card, "device in use"?
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:03:24 -0600
I've got a Soundblaster16 compatible Sound card. I don't know the actual
manufactuer of it though :(.
when I try to set it up using sndconfig, it will get through to the "play a
test sound" stage, and then i'll receive an error saying that the device is
currently busy.
Any ideas? Perhaps an IRQ conflict...
Thanks for the help
Chris Podurgiel
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From: Tim Henstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and "Winprinters"
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:26:18 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Technically, should't the same be true for winmodems then too? If the
> > manufacturers made the specs avaliable, would it be possible to write a
> > driver for a winmodem??
>
> Of course YES. Winmodems only implement certain functions that a re part of
> the modem hardware into software; they use the main processor's resources.
> One could, for instance, use a Linux box's processing power, given that you
> get the WinModem specs.
>
> I hope we'll be able to have LinModems soon :)
>
> Hugo
But isnt this missing the real point? Either the Winmodem
or Winprinter require relatively accurate delivery of data
because they have to be sent instructions at exactly the right
time. This is a problem for a pre-emptive multi-tasking system
(unless you want to have some kind of "super" driver that
can grab system resources and not give them up to _anything_
else) Sure - its a superficially attractive thing given the
power of todays CPUs and the small cost saving, but if it
means X stops working any time you print why not just get a
Mac?
Tim
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From: "John Dalnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Run X on a Toshiba laptop?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:18:47 GMT
I had the same problem with a Pentium workstation. Turned out it wasn't
video card related. In the RH5.2 setup there is a selection for monitor.
Custom doesn't work. Screen flashes, machine locks up. In my case Dell
VS17 worked. Try something, I don't think you can hurt laptop displays with
incorrect H Sync.
jd
Christian L�pine wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm trying to run Xwindows on a toshiba 4800.
>I have the lastest version (2.0.35) of linux and the lasted version of
>the distribution files of Xwindows. I'm not able to run startx: the
>screen flash and the laptop freezes. I think that video card is a
>Western Digital. Is there any person who have a config file which works
>fine on this type of laptop? If so, Is it possible for me to have it?
>
>Thanks!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fujitsu mo problem solved
Date: 17 Feb 1999 02:24:27 -0500
>> "RD" == Robert Dale wrote on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:56:32 GMT:
RD> ftp.liniere.u-tokyo.ac.jp or : something like that. after
RD> comparing the contents of the : fujitsu2513a-2.0.36.diff, i -R'd
RD> the first patch and applied the : german one.
RD> Do you have the address for the german site? Thanks!
if this isn't it, it should at least get you close enough.
http://wwwcip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~orschaer/mo/
ciao,
g.y.
--
Guy Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [remove noise]
Place me on a BUFFER counter while you BELITTLE several BELLHOPS in the
Trianon Room!! Let me be one of your SUBSIDIARIES!
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From: "Mark S Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Compaq Presario 5670
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:54:55 -0600
I just bought a Compaq Presario 5670 model and am having trouble configuring
various parts of the system
under RH 5.2. The sound card is Diamond Sonic Impact S90 PCI. Can not get
this working.
The modem is Lucent Wildwire 56 Kflex V.90 and I can not get this configured
either.
Are these compatible with Linux and does anyone have any tips with this
model of computer?
Thanks,
Mark Adams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kanji keyboards
Date: 17 Feb 1999 02:06:10 -0500
>> "ts" == tyler stratton wrote on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 03:37:36 GMT:
ts> and I have a few questions about how they are used in linux.
ts> First of all, are they supported in Linux? In other words do I
ts> have to compile the kernel a certain way, or just set the keyboard
ts> setting differently?
i assume you're talking about a jis keyboard. there's no point in
buying one of these.
most japanese use a modified qwerty board. various applications --
editors, browsers, etc -- sometimes with the help of something like
kon or kterm, send the typing to a kanji server which will turn it
into chan-to-shita-nihongo. on a jis keyboard, the ' key is shift-7,
the parantheses are shift 8 & 9 rather than 9 & 0, and there are a
number of other differences. the alphabetical characters are all in
the same place that us-ascii boards have them, though. (i have one of
these things myself. it drove me nuts because even if i write in
japanese quite often, i learned to type on an ascii keyboard.)
fortunately, you can easily remap your keys to the jis layout. check
out man loadkeys. note that most people touch type in romaji rather
than kana. most people find this to be faster than entering kana
directly. most people -- not all. but if you touch type already,
this is no doubt the best way to go. i'm not even sure if you can use
those funky keys like "koho" and "zenkoho" on linux, but then, i don't
really need them.
ts> I am just learning japanese, so I wouldn't be using the keyboard
ts> in Kanji mode all of the time, would it be simple to switch modes
ts> from a standard QWERTY style to a Kanji mode (using some sort of
ts> key combonation or shell command)?
if you're just learning, you should be writing everything out by hand.
using a wa-puro will hinder more than help at this stage. anyway,
yes, it would be. it depends on what setup you use, but in xemacs
with canna, i just hit control-\ to go back and forth.
ts> I have looked many places on the net and have only found the above
ts> link as an available place to purchase a kanji keyboard, Is there
ts> a better place to buy one? or a better brand to buy, I have a
ts> 5-pin AT style 'Windows' keyboard currently.
again, there's really no point in doing this, because you get kanji
through software, not hardware, and it's much cheaper and easier to
simply reconfigure your keyboard mappings. you might as well use the
board you already have.
g.y.
--
Guy Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [remove noise]
I have accepted Provolone into my life!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: quantum 12Go HD compatibility
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:05:47 GMT
I have been trying to install a 12GB Quantum for months and months,
but it simply won't do it.
Remember that your boot partition MUST be in <8GB area (the
age old 1024 cylinder limit in the PC BIOS) in order to boot properly,
but as far as installing the 12GB disk goes, I am beginning to think that
it just isn't possible. My disk simply shuts the drive down, or else it
keeps it running endlessly. I boot Linux off a UDMA 8GB disk on the primary
controller no probs, but just try using the 12GB on the secondary controller
(as the master drive) and it dies... I also tried making it a slave on the
primary controller and the same thing happens.
I wonder, perhaps anyone out there can answer this, if there isn't some
advanced power management on the BigFoot series that Linux simply cannot
control, or doesn't contorl. My other thought is that perhaps this drive
pushes the UDMA envelope past what normal controller can handle? This drive
operates at 66MB/sec and if memory serves me correctly, there is a 33MB/sec
speed as well as a 66MB/sec. Maybe the motherboard on my machine doesn't
handle this speed?
Well, that's my own experience and my own thoughts. I haven't really answered
the question, but maybe this adds more info on the road to getting this
problem solved.
Brad
In article <79nui4$t9c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi !
>
> I tryed to install RH5.2 on my hd which is divided like this: primary
> partition: 2Go FAT16 (BOOT) extended 1 5 Go NTFS extended 2 3 Go
FAT32
> extended 3 2 Go (= dedicated to create the swap and linux native partition
>
> All these partitions were made with (dos) fdisk.
>
> As i tryed to install RH5.2 on the last partition i got the following errors:
> when i pressed V (verify)
>
> Warning partition 6 overlaps partition 7
> Warning partition 6 overlaps partition 8
> Warning partition 7 overlaps partition 8
> 679574 unalocated sectors
>
> Can anyone help me .. I`m desespere :(
>
> thanks in advance
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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