Linux-Hardware Digest #516, Volume #9 Sat, 27 Feb 99 17:13:59 EST
Contents:
Re: E-mail from ATI Tech Support / ATI TV `n Linux... ("Jeraimee")
Re: anyone have a ATI tv tuner card working in Linux? (Tom Herman)
Using the HP7200e Parallel CD-R with PARIDE and cdrecord ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Boycott Swintel)
Re: SmartRAID V (PM1554U2) support? (David George)
Re: Fast Trak IDE RAID controller ("matthew.r.pavlovich.1")
Request Driver. (Anonymous Coward)
Re: Small pump for liquid cooling... (douglas shawhan)
Re: 3 Com 3C900 Ethernet-card and RedHat 5.2 (Henrik Carlqvist)
Problem while booting linux through LILO or boot-disk (Kumar Dwarakanath)
Linux on Emachine? (chris torlinsky)
Re: Overclocking (was: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?) (GBP)
Problem Adding Another Hard Drive (mike)
Re: LILO can't see partitions. (Andries Brouwer)
Jaz drives ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: Fast Trak IDE RAID controller ("Anonymous")
Re: PCI modems in linux? ("Bob Stickel")
Re: Cannot remount root partition readonly. (Andries Brouwer)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (John Meissen)
Re: Which HP DeskJet to buy/not to buy? EconoFast mode (Gal Aviel)
Re: Help with Intel 740 Chipset (Austin Skyles)
ALS200 and Linux ("Wizard01")
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Grant Leslie)
Re: Sound Blaster Live! ("J. P.")
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (brian moore)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (mlw)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Craig Kelley)
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From: "Jeraimee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: E-mail from ATI Tech Support / ATI TV `n Linux...
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:03:04 -0500
I also wanted to buy the AIW 128... but... after I got that e-mail I'm
thinking again...
What may happen is that I might have to run 2 boxes...
I like my soundblaster live, DVD, All in Wonder, etc... the whole family
loves the stuff... but I only want to 'use' Linux...
we've got a 27inch monitor that's run off the same box (surround sound,
etc...) and I guess it (the windoze box) will end up being ran just for that
stuff and my personal box will be linux.
Doesn't lppk as though I'm getting any other choice...
Jeraimee
Ben wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Good info. If ATI doesn't get a Linux "All In Wonder" going soon.
>Somebody else will. I guess ATI is doing the best thet can as fast as
>they can. I am waiting for my next video card purchase to be an ATI all
>in wonder 128 but if it doesn't support Linux I may not buy it. I am
>trying to buy NO hardware that only supports Windows. Just my small
>little opinion.
>
>Ben
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From: Tom Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone have a ATI tv tuner card working in Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:02:36 GMT
I got my ATI Mach 32 video card working OK with my Hauppauge
WinTV card. I copied the include file line from the ATI Mach 64
card in the bttv.c driver.
Open Source triumphs again. My 2 cents worth.
Tom
--
David Utidjian wrote:
>
> Klement, Christopher (EXCHANGE:CRK:5T31) wrote:
>
> > Hi I am wondering if anyone has an ATI tv tuner to work in Linux. if
> > anyone does, i would appreciate an info on how to do it. thanx.
> >
>
> No one has it running under Linux and no one will.... not until ATI
> releases the specs on the card. ATI have been total dorks about this
> card (and most of their other stuff). They claim that they cannot
> release specs because the design of the card is "proprietary". If I am
> not mistaken they use Bt chips on their cards.... (yep mine has a Bt
> 829)... and Bt is forthcoming with the data but not ATI.
>
> I will not buy another ATI product because of their stance on this
> card... I have since bought STB and Hauppauge "TV" cards and I told ATI
> so. I suggest you do the same.
>
> People have been begging ATI for a couple of years now and still
> no-dice. They won't even release a proprietary driver. IMO their
> attitude is just plain stupid.
>
> After having said all that... does anyone wanna buy a slightly used but
> still serviceable ATI-TV tuner card cheap? I will, of course, include
> all packaging and W95 software that came with it.
>
> -David Utidjian-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
The views expressed are the author's and do not necessarily
reflect the official position of GTE or any of its subsidiaries
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Using the HP7200e Parallel CD-R with PARIDE and cdrecord
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:44:56 GMT
Has anyone figured out how to write to one of these things???
I can get the drivers to load and detect the drive, but I can't
get cdrecord to recognize the thing. I am using redhat 5.2 and have
applied the kernel update for 2.0.36 and I am using cdrecord 1.6.1.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boycott Swintel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:57:53 GMT
Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
turned on and off by software. Following some links I found the
www.fightdivx.com website and noticed that they have a Intel Boycott
page with links, quotes and info on why you should boycott the
invasion of privacy Pentium III chips. Just like everyone suspected,
the ID number can be taken without a customers knowledge. Just like
cellular phone fraud, once someone has your unique ID number, they
could pose as you on the internet. Do not be fooled by reports that
this problem is fixed because Intel disabled this feature by software
on their up coming chips. Information is power. They want to know
your surfing and buying habits. That is what this is all about. Here
is the link to the page with the boycott info and links.
http://www.fightdivx.com/intelboycott.htm
Also you will find a Boycott Intel screen saver and banner on their
page above. Spread it around.
Take the Pentium III Boycott Survey
http://mail.infotrieve.com/isurvey/index.cfm?vendorid=6045&formid=F0006045
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From: David George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SmartRAID V (PM1554U2) support?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:05:47 -0500
I would also love to see a driver for this adapter. I have seen one
running with SCO Openserver and it is FAST. I really want to use them
on my Linux systems.
"Geoffrey L. Wright" wrote:
> Anybody working on a driver for this one? It doesn't appear to be
> supported under the current eta_dma driver.
>
> Many thanks for any input on this one...
>
> glw
--
David George
Systems Engineer
Logical Net Corporation
http://www.logical.net
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From: "matthew.r.pavlovich.1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fast Trak IDE RAID controller
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:39:14 -0500
I sent an e-mail to promise. No word back yet...
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Mike Swieton wrote:
> Does anyone know how to get this to work under linux? Plz?
>
>
>
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From: Anonymous Coward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Request Driver.
Date: 26 Feb 1999 16:31:27 GMT
Hey, can some body out there tell me where can I find my Sound Card Driver.
It is a Maestro Sound Card which is in my Acer Extensa 710DX notebook. It's
DMA is 1 and IRQ is 5
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From: douglas shawhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small pump for liquid cooling...
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:53:57 GMT
David A. Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One place to check (I don't have a recent catalog) is Edmund Scientific.
> They use to have exactly what you are looking for. One other poster
> suggested windshield washer pumps which may also work but don't expect a
> long life.
I have that particular Weighty Tome myself.. lots of good stuff, but I hope
to dind something local and a little cheaper. (Although if I ever find
myself wiht a terminal disease or something I will steal a bunch of credit
card numbers and run naked through Edmund Scientific- I mean, can you
imagine how _handy_ a vacuum pump could be?)The washer pumps are indeed
not for continuous use! A darn good idea though. The fountain in a bowl
gismo sounds like it might be right up the alley... though I doubt if
"mission critical" was on the minds of the designers. Thnks for your help!
d
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3 Com 3C900 Ethernet-card and RedHat 5.2
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:38:19 +0100
h wrote:
> Does anybody have experience with this ? The card should be supported
> but is not found.
You should use the Vortex/Boomerang driver which is in 3c59x.c. I think
that Redhat has most drivers already compiled as modules, maybe you
could try to load 3659x? Otherwise compile your own kernel, that will
give you the best solution.
regards Henrik
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From: Kumar Dwarakanath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,cmu.comp.os.linux,cmu.cs.linux.forum
Subject: Problem while booting linux through LILO or boot-disk
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:20:00 -0500
Hi,
I have a SCSI (AHA2740-2840-2940) card for my CD-ROM drive. While doing
the
installation (Redhat 5.2) the program is able to probe and find out the
card and initialize
the CD-ROM to function properly. This helps me in completing the
installation.
When I want to boot using LILO or the boot disk I get the following
error and the
system stops booting:
Loading aic7xxx module..
(SCSI0) found at EISA slot....
(SCSI0) Twin channel....
(SCSI0) Downloading sequencer code... 423 instructions downloaded
(SCSI0) BRKADRINT error (0x8):
Sequencer Ram Parity error
Kernel Panic: aic7xxx: unrecoverable BRKADRINT
Aieee: scheduling in interrupt 0016d2a0
Aieee: scheduling in interrupt 0016d2a0
Aieee: scheduling in interrupt 0016d2a0
Aieee: scheduling in interrupt 0016d2a0
Aieee: scheduling in interrupt 0016d2a0
Please help with any suggestions. I have been trying various things
but it does not seem to work. Have spent so much time just getting
the system to boot!!!
Thanks in advance.
Kumar.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chris torlinsky)
Subject: Linux on Emachine?
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 09:25:46 -0800
Has anyone had any good results with
the cheap-o eMachine systems? the "eTowers"
Any problems with any particular problem?
All the boxes are based on varios chips like
Cyrix, Amd and intel (celeron)...
I'm thinking about getting one of them as a cheap ass
server running Linux.
thanks,
-chris
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From: GBP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Overclocking (was: Re: K6-2 and Linux, Are there any Bug?)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:36:11 -0500
Yeah point well taken. But is it true that overclocking can result in
system instability? When netscape crashes how am i going to know it was
a bug and not my CPU doing and instruction wrong or something? When
people say instability what exactly do they mean? do these machines
freeze?
gbp
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem Adding Another Hard Drive
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:50:56 -0500
Hi, I have Red Hat Linux 5.1 installed on an old hard drive that
boots from Lilo installed on its MBR. I want to install a large
hard drive with Windows95 on the system. I want the large drive
to be the primary master and the linux drive to be the primary
slave.
How do I get Lilo to install the linux boot software on the
new hard drive's MBR so that I can dual boot from the new hard
drive on the primary master ide to be , optionally able to boot
into the existing linux drive as the primary slave.
Thanks
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andries Brouwer)
Subject: Re: LILO can't see partitions.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:14:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martyn Foster) writes:
: I have recently tried to upgrade my win95 partitions to win98.
: To do this I 'hid' some other DOS format partitions by changing them
: to type:linux native with linux fdisk.
: Win98 installed fine. I changed the partition types back to type 6
: and Lo there they are visible from all my OS's. Funny thing is that LILO
: complains about them: partition entry point not found.
: Anyone seen this before? Any clues?
When all fails, read the manual:
Partition entry not found:
The partition from which an other operating system should be booted
isn't listed in the specified partition table. This either means that
an incorrect partition table has been specified or that you're trying
to boot from a logical partition. The latter usually doesn't work. You
can bypass this check by omitting the partition table specification
(e.g. omitting the variable TABLE).
[If this doesnt answer the question, give details (partition table,
lilo config, precise scenario).]
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Jaz drives
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:25:18 -0500
Hello.
I'm pretty new to the Linux world, so please excuse my apparent lack
of knowledge =)
I recently purchased a 2GB Jaz drive and would be interested in
using it under Linux as well. Can anyone please offer me advice on how
to do this? A friend of mine who knows pretty much everything about
Linux said it's very doubtful it will work. Is he right?
Thanks in advance!
Paul
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From: "Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fast Trak IDE RAID controller
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:40:27 -0500
I called them about it. Tech support guy said that they don't support
Linux/Unix based OSes for this product. Oh well...
matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote in message ...
>I sent an e-mail to promise. No word back yet...
>
>On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Mike Swieton wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how to get this to work under linux? Plz?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From: "Bob Stickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PCI modems in linux?
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:04:00 -0500
My apologies for a premature posting of possibly incorrect information. I
had a pci modem installed in a box that then had RH5.2 installed on it but
I'm not absolutely sure that this box still has a pci modem in it. It is
offline at the moment but I'm due to make a call to the site this weekend so
I'll check it myself...
Once again, my apologies for the original posting and to those who are
following the thread. I'll repost the news, good or bad, as soon as I can
verify in person.
head hung and eating humble pie.....
Bob
=============================================================
Bob Stickel wrote in message <7amh1l$g0n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have purchased Aopen PCI 56k modems that are either PNP or manual jumper
>settings but are not Winmodems...they're inexpensive and they work fine..
>
>Bob
>=====================
>Eugene wrote in message ...
>>AFAIK all PCI modems are winmodems
>>
>>Doug wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>Can a PCI modem be used in linux? If so how? Something called a modem
>>>enumerator is installed in windows along with the modem itself and i
>>>dont know what that is. Its creative modmeblaster DI5630 v.90. Its
>>>being used as PnP right now but there are jumpers on it I dont have the
>>>manual so im trying to find out if com and irq can be hard set..
>>>Thanks for any help and please email me a response if possible at
>>>ratchet at tir dot com
>>>Doug
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andries Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Cannot remount root partition readonly.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 20:42:26 GMT
"Austin Skyles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: I recently upgraded to the new 2.2.2 kernel, and since then, I have had
: occasional problems with my system being unable to unmount the root
: partition on shutdown. It claims that the partition is busy and cannot be
: unmounted, then I am forced to wait for fsck to run on startup. This happens
: about 60% of the time. I have searched and searched for an answer to this
: problem and finally decided to give up and ask for help.
This sounds like the problem discussed in the Changes file:
GNU libc (libc6)
================
Older versions of GNU libc (libc6) have a bug in the dynamic linker.
/etc/ld.so.cache gets mapped into memory and is never unmapped. If one
of your boot scripts calls ldconfig, /etc/ld.so.cache is deleted. Init,
however, still references that file; as of 2.1.122, the kernel will
consequently not be able to remount the root file system r/o at system
shutdown. To fix this, upgrade to at least the pre6 release of GNU
libc 2.0.7. As a temporary workaround, modify your boot scripts to do
the following before calling ldconfig:
ln -f /etc/ld.so.cache /etc/ld.so.cache.old
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Meissen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: 26 Feb 1999 19:58:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Boycott Swintel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
>track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
>turned on and off by software.
This is untrue. The fact is, the feature can be disabled with software,
but it can ONLY be turned back on by a full hardware reset.
Of potential concern is that after a hard reset the feature =is=
reenabled, but if you consider the logic of not being able to
enable via software, this is the only way to provide for re-enabling
the feature.
Given that the feature exists, and the way it works, obviously
the best solution is for BIOS manufacturers to provide for
disabling at power-on. Otherwise it seems to me a trivial matter
to provide capability under Linux or any other OS to disable it
at boot time.
A boycot based on this is ridiculous. Whether you use the chip
or not should depend on the capabilities of the CPU and if you
feel they meet your needs.
john-
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From: Gal Aviel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which HP DeskJet to buy/not to buy? EconoFast mode
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:54:03 +0000
> > Before sending the file to lp?, send the following PCL command: Esc*o-1M (or
> > the octal sequence: 027 042 111 045 049 077) to put the printer in EconoFast
> > mode.
>
hi guys, this is exactly what I was looking for (how to EconoFast
my hp DeskJet 600) but :
1. how do I actually give the PCL command ?
what do I type at the shell prompt ?
2. is there a way so I won't have to do this for each file ?
something like giving this option once and for all
in say the RH 5.2 printtool of KDE's hp laserjet control center ?
or in some other config file ?
3. do you know where I can get more info on PCL and linux ?
maybe I'll find more good options there, I remember in M$
you had more say on the output quality.
I would greatly appreciate any info from you guys,
thanks !
gal.
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From: Austin Skyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Intel 740 Chipset
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:01:19 +0000
Richard Latter wrote:
> All,
>
> Does anyone know how to get an Intel 740 Graphics card to work with
> Linux X11 or does anyone have any drivers for it.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> /trickie
Try RedHat's XBF server for i740 at ftp.redhat.com/pub/XBF
I use it.
Austin Skyles
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From: "Wizard01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ALS200 and Linux
Date: 26 Feb 1999 19:21:22 GMT
does anybody know if the ALS200 will work with Linux? (RedHat5.1
w/Xwindow3.3.3)
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From: Grant Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:11:28 -0400
John Meissen wrote:
>
> A boycot based on this is ridiculous. Whether you use the chip
> or not should depend on the capabilities of the CPU and if you
> feel they meet your needs.
>
> john-
But should I have to accept an invasion of my privacy, to get those
capabilities? Everyone reading this no doubt is aware, and would know to
disable it. But, the general public is probably completely unaware. An
organized boycot, could bring this to thier attention.
To me it feels kinda like being "tagged". They talk about tracking
browsing and buying habits, etc.. But that is really a rather trivial
use of this. If a web browser can get the ID, why can't your email
client "tag" every e-mail you send. Why can't Word 2000, Excel, etc..
etc.. "tag" every file you make. Why can't your future TCP/IP stack
"tag" every single packet your computer sends. A "virus" could grab it,
and send it to god knows who. An employer could "buy" logs of your ID
usage, on the net.
You'd bitch if the police tried to get a video camera installed in your
house to watch you anytime they wanted, right? Even if you could turn
the thing off. And even better, what if someone could "fake" the signal
from that camera, and "pretend" they are you in your house.
I don't care how innocent Intel's idea was when coming up with this,
but, I personally will NEVER own a pentium III or any other CPU that
does this (PLEASE AMD, listen!!!!!! ), and thats not "wierdo
conspirousy" politics either. Thats a basic desire for freedom. True
perfect freedom can never exist, but i am NOT willing to giving up ANY
of what I do have.
Try to think past the basic computer issues involved here, to a bigger
picture. Enabled/disabled doesn't matter, the basic fact is that it
exists at all. Future versions of certain web sites might not even allow
access with out the ID enabled, some future software might not install
without the ID enabled, forcing people to have it enabled.
Personally I say no thanks. And I want the freedom, to continue to say
no thanks in the future. I don't just not want it on my CPU, I don't
want it AT ALL!!!!!!!
--
"It looks so lovely, and fragile. Imagine how many millions of people
are living on it, and don't even realize how fragile it is."
Alan B. Shepard, 1971, said with a tear in his eye, on the
Apollo 14 mission looking back at earth from the moon
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From: "J. P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live!
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:44:57 GMT
Bradley Yen wrote:
>
> Well... if you want sound support, you need to take the SB Live! out and
> put in some other soundcard (that Linux supports). There are no SB Live!
> drivers available. However CL says they're working on some drivers, but
> who knows when they'll become available.
In the meantime he should be able to use the DB Live! card as an SB-16 for
it does emulate SB-16 as far as I know. At least that's what I've seen
on a Win98 installation.
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: 27 Feb 1999 21:43:53 GMT
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:52:29 GMT,
Peter F. Curran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I can explain the fuss. People don't _want_ to be tracked
> on the Internet. They only wish to provide identification info
> to those sites they want to do business with.
That's true.
> It is the proposed _use_ of the PSN, not the PSN itself which
> is so objectionable.
No, that's what the MEDIA is reporting as the use. It's completely
useless for that.
It is, however, quite useful for "download this version of Word22 for
your system" and ensure that people don't copy it to every system on
their network, or burn a CD with it and move it around that way.
That's why the instruction is there: so software could be tied to a
given CPU.
> Because some sites might require the PSN to be on if you have a
> PIII, (or if you have PSN-aware copy protection on some of your
> software), people will be forced to leave it on because of the
> hassle of needing to reboot 10 extra times a day.
But, again, that's completely useless. How will those sites get that
number? The web browser will have to provide it. So download Mozilla
and hack it to always set 'X-CPU-ID' (or whatever) to 0xDEADBEEF and be
done with it.
Completely useless for that application: again, note that it's the media
claiming this is true. Don't Believe The Media. They have no clue
about what they're saying and spout mindless nonsense.
> I think the only solution is to just vocally oppose the use
> of such a poor security enhancement. As you said, the number
> on the chip is harmless by itself. It is the software, and
> those who actually try to make use of the PSN who are
> dangerous.
And because the software can't be secured, the whole concept (as
reported by the media) is useless. It would have tremendous use for
outfits like Microsoft that have pondered things like annual licenses
and even per-use licenses. [But I think that's good: if it costs a user
$.25 each time they run Word, that's another incentive to dump MS. :)]
There is some neat stuff on the P3 (like the random number generator)
that is much more valuable than the CPU id, and will have much more of
an impact on security and being able to conduct secure transactions on
the 'net.
Please seperate the claims made by the media (who not only have no clue
about what they're saying, but also have a vested interest in hyping a
story) and reality.
(There is a reason my TV has been off for the last 2.5 years.)
(Of course, at this moment the P3 isn't worth it anyway, but that's
typical Intel pricing policy.)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:10:59 +0000
John Meissen wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Boycott Swintel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
> >track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
> >turned on and off by software.
>
> This is untrue. The fact is, the feature can be disabled with software,
> but it can ONLY be turned back on by a full hardware reset.
>
> Of potential concern is that after a hard reset the feature =is=
> reenabled, but if you consider the logic of not being able to
> enable via software, this is the only way to provide for re-enabling
> the feature.
>
> Given that the feature exists, and the way it works, obviously
> the best solution is for BIOS manufacturers to provide for
> disabling at power-on. Otherwise it seems to me a trivial matter
> to provide capability under Linux or any other OS to disable it
> at boot time.
>
> A boycot based on this is ridiculous. Whether you use the chip
> or not should depend on the capabilities of the CPU and if you
> feel they meet your needs.
>
> john-
As far as I can recall, there is at least one instruction that acts like
a reset, but, does not restart at the standard location. It was all so
long ago with OS/2, 1.x. Intel had an undocumented instruction that
allowed the 80286 to restart the computer but wake up at 40H. If that
instruction is still around, it should be possible from kernel space to
setup the system to halt/restart at that location and probably have that
information available. All the while having the operating system know
nothing about it. As far as it is concerned, it lost a number
milliseconds.
The 80286, once flipped into protected mode, was not able to return to
realmode without a reset, this instruction, nicknamed hyperspace, was
used to allow OS/2 1.x to implement a DOS box. I don't see how they
could have removed it without breaking a all of the 16 bit protectd mode
stuff.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Feb 1999 14:10:57 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Meissen) writes:
> > Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
> >track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
> >turned on and off by software.
>
> This is untrue. The fact is, the feature can be disabled with software,
> but it can ONLY be turned back on by a full hardware reset.
You are mistaken:
http://www.heise.de/ct/english/99/05/news1/
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