Linux-Hardware Digest #575, Volume #9 Fri, 5 Mar 99 16:14:18 EST
Contents:
Re: Xeon Processor... (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Johan Kullstam)
Re: S.u.S.E. 5.3 and Matrox Millenium G200 AGP (R Mercado)
Asus P5A MB with onboard ESS PCI sound (Richard Griswold)
Xeon Processor... (John Burton)
recommend an external isdn? (Administrator)
Are these hardware compatible for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Realaudio and Linux (Mary or Tom)
Re: Sound Problems (detailed) SB AWE32 PnP (Eugeniy Mikhailov)
Re: Video4linux and Matrox MAVEN chips (Eddie)
Monitors (John Linley)
Mwave For Linux Project
Re: Help: Viper550 with AMD K6-2 and Linux... (Daniele Bernardini)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Burton)
Re: 486DX2 - BIOS - Big HD (koivi)
Re: Viper550 or Xpert@Play? (Greg H.)
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xeon Processor...
Date: 05 Mar 1999 13:21:44 -0500
John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm planning on buying a low-end server machine to primarily do heavy
> duty number crunching (*BIG* atmospheric models) and generate large data
> files.
this application just cries out for dec alpha. alpha is *much* faster
at floating point than anything intel offers.
> I've been doing some research and it seems that the Pentium II
> Xeon processor running on an Intel SC450NX or AD450NX motherboard should
> be a screamer. But unfortunately my checkbook can't handle a full blown
> 8 processor AD450NX system... My base requirements are:
>
> 450 Mhz Pentium II ??? processor (Initially single, but planning on SMP
> later)
> >256 MB memory
> 2x9 Gb SCSI LVD U2W disks (good swap & file I/O performance)
> 100 Base-T NIC
looks ok. except for the intel chip.
> I've found several options and am evaluating them, but I need some
> information...okay, relative to a Linux RedHat 5.2 base O/S with
> appropriate upgrades for the 2.2.2 (or greater) kernel:
>
> 1) is the ADAC A-466 Ultra2 SCSI Raid card supported under Linux?
> 2) is the Adaptec 7980 (and 7985) SCSI chipset *well* supported under
> Linux?
see what scsi controller va-research is using in their boxes. buy
that. i would use a buslogic card. i have had some trouble with
reboots and adaptec 2940uw.
> 2) Can Linux make use of the 4-way interleaved memory access provided
> by the 450NX chipset?
yes. linux has no idea that you have 4-way interleaved memory. the
4-way interleave works just dandy on my alr revolution quad6.
> 3) Under Linux is there much performance difference between a Dual P-II
> on a 440BX motherboard and a Dual P-II Xeon on a 440GX motherboard
> (there is a *significant* price difference).
yes. you'd still be better off with an alpha. the alpha will be much
more powerful than the xeon and it isn't all that much different in
price.
> I have a range of possibilities, but I need to justify it in terms of
> Price vs. Performance (i.e. how much faster will the large number
> crunching jobs be done, and will it be responsive in serving the files
> generated via NFS & Automount...
is this supposed to be a number cruncher or a file server? are you
trying to use it for both?
hope this helps.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: 05 Mar 1999 13:24:36 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) writes:
> Restarting BIOS would change various BIOS variables so saving some of
> these would make sense. I know the reset technique has been used quite a
> bit, I'm only questioning the notion that there is an undocumented reset
> instruction in the x86. The various methods of resetting the CPU I'm aware
> of involve I/O instruction or descriptor table instructions.
there's always the old tried and true method of physically grounding
the reset pin. a little bit of logic between an output port and the
reset and you could do it from software.
--
johan kullstam
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From: R Mercado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: S.u.S.E. 5.3 and Matrox Millenium G200 AGP
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 14:59:49 +0000
Hi
I installed SuSE 5.3 last November with the Matrox G200 AGP. I just saw that the two
files needed are still sitting in my hard drive. These files are available from
XFree
The files needed are
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1129748 Oct 28 18:40 xmatrox.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1131036 Oct 28 18:40 xmatrox.tgz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35999 Oct 28 18:40 xsuseconfig.tgz
xmatrox.rpm and xmatrox.tgz are the same thing but packed differently.
You need the xsuseconfig to replace xconfig86 and this new config program did the
magic: just run it the same way as xf86config is run.
R.Mercado
Allen wrote:
> Yes you will need to upgrade to Xfree86 3.3.3.1, but I don't know the steps for
> S.u.S.E., as I'm going through much the same thing, and I'm running Red Hat 5.2.
>
> On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:26:02 +0800, "Chan, Siu-Kei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I currently upgrade my VGA card to Millenium G200 AGP (8MB SGRAM version). I
> >have S.u.S.E 5.3 installed and I would like anyone who can tell me what do I
> >need to upgrade. Do I have to download the XFree86 3.3.3.1 or anything else.
> >Please tell me what should I need to download and what should I do to
> >upgrade. It would be great if anyone could tell me in step-by-step process.
> >
> >Please reply to the newsgroups and me through the e-mail services. Thanks!!!
>
> Allen
>
> (email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
> onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
> fight spam everywhere!!!
>
>
> The irony is that Bill Gates claims to making a
> stable operating system and
> Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world.
>
> Linux; The Official OS of the New Millennium
>
> http://www.linuxlink.com
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From: Richard Griswold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Asus P5A MB with onboard ESS PCI sound
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:30:24 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm thinking about buying an Asus P5A MB with onboard ESS PCI sound (I'm
not sure what the exact chipset is). Is this sound hardware supported
under Linux? Am I better off getting the MB without onboard sound and
putting in a separate sound card?
--
Richard Griswold
griswold | Opinions, ideas, etc. are not
at | necessarily those of me, my
acm | employer, the government, or
dot | any other person or group,
org | real or imaginary
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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xeon Processor...
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:26:18 GMT
I'm planning on buying a low-end server machine to primarily do heavy
duty number crunching (*BIG* atmospheric models) and generate large data
files. I've been doing some research and it seems that the Pentium II
Xeon processor running on an Intel SC450NX or AD450NX motherboard should
be a screamer. But unfortunately my checkbook can't handle a full blown
8 processor AD450NX system... My base requirements are:
450 Mhz Pentium II ??? processor (Initially single, but planning on SMP
later)
>256 MB memory
2x9 Gb SCSI LVD U2W disks (good swap & file I/O performance)
100 Base-T NIC
I've found several options and am evaluating them, but I need some
information...okay, relative to a Linux RedHat 5.2 base O/S with
appropriate upgrades for the 2.2.2 (or greater) kernel:
1) is the ADAC A-466 Ultra2 SCSI Raid card supported under Linux?
2) is the Adaptec 7980 (and 7985) SCSI chipset *well* supported under
Linux?
2) Can Linux make use of the 4-way interleaved memory access provided
by the 450NX chipset?
3) Under Linux is there much performance difference between a Dual P-II
on a 440BX motherboard and a Dual P-II Xeon on a 440GX motherboard
(there is a *significant* price difference).
I have a range of possibilities, but I need to justify it in terms of
Price vs. Performance (i.e. how much faster will the large number
crunching jobs be done, and will it be responsive in serving the files
generated via NFS & Automount...
Thoughts ? Suggestions?
John
--
John Burton, Ph.D.
Senior Associate GATS, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
(757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:26:57 -0800
From: Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: recommend an external isdn?
Hi everybody,
I've been thinking of upgrading from an internal 56K modem to using an
external isdn modem for my ppp connection to my isp. Can anyone
recommend a good external isdn modem to use with RedHat 5.2?
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Akira
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Are these hardware compatible for Linux?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:24:24 GMT
Hi,I use Compaq Presario 2210 at this time.
This PC has became too slow for these days applications,
so I am considering to buy a new PC.
I will use that new PC for windows game ,like Age of Empires
and I use that PC for linux and gcc and vi also.
I reserched some shop for cheap PC and I found some cheap PCs.
But I feel I have to check those hardwares are compatible
for Linux or not.
So I write those hardware down here,and if you know the
compatibility of those hardware,please write it down here.
Thanks.
AMD K6-2/350
Celeron300A
SDRAM 64MB PC-100 CL=2
E-IDE HDD 6.4GB
Aladdin or MVP3/ATX
INTEL 440BX /ATX
INTEL i740 8MB AGP
ATAPI 36x
FDD 2 mode
PCI Sound Card (YMF724)
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From: Mary or Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Realaudio and Linux
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:34:33 -0500
Has anyone tried set up a Realaudio server on a 486 using the Linux
operating system. If there is a better newsgroup to ask this question,
please let me know.
Thanks
tom
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From: Eugeniy Mikhailov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Problems (detailed) SB AWE32 PnP
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:31:12 -0600
Stephen Anthony wrote:
> I am exactly the same position as you. This card worked flawlessly under 2.0.36,
> but in 2.2.1, I have errors (the same as you listed) with Realplayer and other
> programs. Except that my realplayer does not start at all, it just gives the
> error. The frustraing thing is that sound works in alot of applications, and
> doesn't in others. BTW, MIDI through the builtin EMU8000 chip works fine.
AFAIK from README.changes that comes with kernel src 2.2.0
this kernel have some trouble with RealPlayer by defenition.
Eugeniy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eddie)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Video4linux and Matrox MAVEN chips
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:30:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"matthew.r.pavlovich.1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I believe that the Maven chip is responsible for the TV-Out functioning of
>the chip, and only that. The actual mode switching is done by the G200
>according to my interpertation of the documentation. I am working on this
>driver as part of the Linux DVD project. http://linuxdvd.dhs.org
>
>I am hoping to get a working TV-Out module in two weeks. (I need to get
>the add-on for the G200).
>
>-Matt
>
>
Well, not from what even Matrox people on irc say.. I asked "which is
the tv tuner chip exactly?" and they (r0m) answered "maven chip" -- do you
think you are capable/in sync with being able to implement the tv TUNER
capabilities, or any of the video INPUT capabilities of the matrox marvel?
Thx, Eddie
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From: John Linley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitors
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:41:03 -0700
Does anyone have the monitor mode set for the Goldstar 1465 monitor at
1024X768? It has two modes of operation in the 1024X768 resolution:
1024,768",Mode4,,"35.5,87.0,
1024,768",Mode7,,"47.7,60.0,
either of which would be fine if I could just get it to work.
Is there some site or database that has monitor specifications other
than what comes with the Redhat 5.2 distributions?
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:07:31 +0000
From: <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
Subject: Mwave For Linux Project
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux,ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad
Hi,
Have you got an IBM Thinkpad or Aptiva with an
Mwave Soundcard and want to run Linux?
Maybe you would like to contribute to the native
Mwave driver project?
The Mwave Project for Linux has the answers.
http://www.flexion.org/mwave/
* Native Mwave driver project - NEW!
[HELP REQUIRED]
* Forum for Mwave/Linux Users - NEW!
* How to enable Sound Blaster Pro 3.1
Emulation under Linux
* Updated for 2.0.x and 2.2.x kernels.
* Improved layout and easy to follow.
* No Windows 3.x/95 or 98 required.
We look forward to your visit!
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L8r,
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From: Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: Viper550 with AMD K6-2 and Linux...
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:16:30 +0100
Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>
> > > I've 25 AMDK6 with i430TX motheboard chipset and Linux won't install at
> > > all in this computer. I never get such problems with intel chip from
> > > i386 up to PentiumII.
> > >
>
> > Well, can you back your statements with something more
> > solid, like what problem did you have, what mainboard/ram are you
> > using, some output from your kernel etc. etc.? It is the first time that
> > I hear that Linux wont INSTALL on a K6!
>
> Mainboard chipset i430TX, on board ultra DMA
> CPU : AMDK6 200Mhz
> RAM : 64Mb
> Kernel : I don"t remember but one shipped with Redhat 4.2 5.1 & 5.2
>
Well that sounds strange indeed I have run the very same combination
for 5 months and it was stable also at 3x75 i.e. with the CPU running
at 225MHz. I'm no hardware expert so I can't help you here. But you
if your problem is the cpu then you are not very lucky.
> From the bios I try with/without ultradma, with/without cache, and
> someother I'm not very sure about.
>
> When installing from the CDROM, the kernel boot and the PC then RESET,
> no more. It seems the reset came after PCI probing (no really sure as
> it's going very fast)
>From now on I'm guessing!
The CPU is recognized before PCI probing therefore I suppose you
are on some buggy bios or something else queer is going on with your
mainboard. Things I advise:
1) update your bios
If this does not work try to localize the problem:
2) If you have a spare mobo and/or a spare cpu try to exchange and
see if it works.
3) Unplug as many pci cards as possible.
If you find the buggy piece, try to get your money back!
good luck,
Daniele
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Daniele Bernardini
Sektion Theoretische Physik, LMU Muenchen
Theresienstr. 37, 80805 Muenchen DEUTSCHLAND
Tel: +49 (89) 23944378
e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:06:05 GMT
"David A. Frantz" wrote:
>
> Hi Robert;
>
> Robert Krawitz wrote in message ...
> >"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Try this site http://humbolt.geo.uu.nl/Linux-MM/more_than_1GB.html to
> gets a
> >> little info on the current I386 capability. Nothing specific on XEON
> >> there, well at least I didn't find anything. Sounds like your trying
> to
> >> apply a low end (Yes I mean the XEON) PC chip to a project that requires
> a
> >> 64 bit CPU. You may want to consider an Alpha, or a POWERPC box from
> IBM.
> >
> >I think this is a tad unfair. I'm disappointed that Linus doesn't
> >want to enable large memory addressing on the x86.
>
> As with any general purpose operateing system there are trade offs, one
> outstanding feature of Linux is the freedom to transform it into something
> that suits your purposes. The reallity is that there is nothing to be
> gained by trying to use a special capability of the XEON just to fillfull
> the special needs of a few users. This is especially the case when the
> Chip and Chip SETs are not suited for the application. I firmly believe
> that if you really need 64 bit addressing to main memory then you need to
> look at a 64 bit system.
>
There are multiple reasons for and against going with an Alpha or PPC
vs. Intel... on of which is *all* the other hardware is Intel x86 based
and having *binary* compatibility is important. That said, I too am
interersted in this topic for the simple reason that the 450NX chipset
motherboards can support 4 way interleaving of memory, plus the use of
alternate (4 32bit PCI buses, 2 64bit PCI buses or 2 32bit & 1 64bit PCI
buses) bus structure, up to 8 Xeon CPUs (with cluster controller)... I'm
not as interested in the size of the address space as much as the size
of the memory bandwidth and I/O bus structure...
John
--
John Burton, Ph.D.
Senior Associate GATS, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) Newport News, VA 23606
(757) 873-5920 (voice) (757) 873-5920 (fax)
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From: koivi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 486DX2 - BIOS - Big HD
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:14:35 -0600
Here is something a little interesting for you. I did the same thing. I
have an old Zenith machine and scrapped the 212MB HDD for a 4GB drive.
Of course the bios was much too old to support the drive, but instead of
looking for updates and such, I just plugged it in and turned it on.
First I booted with a DOS 6.22 bootdisk to see if there was any hope of
seeing the whole drive - nope, only 500MB.
I then started the installation of linux. When I used fdisk to make the
partitions, the whole drive was recognized! I finished the install and
rebooted thinking there would be a problem, but there wasn't! The damn
thing is still running like that with the 4GB hdd and the old bios with
no problems.
Maybe you too could be this lucky. If not, all you loose is the time it
took to find out.
koivi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg H.)
Subject: Re: Viper550 or Xpert@Play?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:33:44 GMT
Marc Knoop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm just about to build myself a big fat Linux box and would like to hear
> comments/opinions on the two cards. In my past experience, I have had
> trouble with Diamond Cards. How about now?
I don't know if you mean the Xpert@Play 98 card or not, but I bought it
a few weeks ago. Very nice card for $80.
Greg H.
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