Linux-Hardware Digest #578, Volume #9 Sat, 6 Mar 99 05:14:09 EST
Contents:
Re: *intermittent* dead pixels, laptop (George Owen)
Re: Intel 740 Help ("Derek")
Re: Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse (Gary Momarison)
Re: TNT Xserver (Daniel STRICKER)
Using DeskJet 400 Printer (Anonymous)
ess 1868 ("Mario Schrijver")
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (mlw)
BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Canon BJC4000 series printers (Zoub-Zoub)
Hardware MPEG decoders supported by LINUX ? (Eric Dizdarevic)
GNOME ... ? START ME UP! ("Igor Raznatovic")
Dell DVD-ROM drive under Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
DLT for Linux (Karen Larson)
Re: Digital Cameras ("Michael Faurot")
Re: Zoom modem and Linux ("Michael Faurot")
Re: SCSI tape drive - How to get Linux 5.1 to see it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: canon bjc-5000 (Grant Taylor)
Viper550 or Xpert@Play? (Marc Knoop)
Re: How do I install my ZIP drive with Linux RedHat 5.2 (Piniek aka Piotr Ingling)
Re: Multi-Disc CD-ROM TEAC /w linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are these hardware compatible for Linux? (David Kirkpatrick)
Video capture on a laptop ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Is this a good modem? (Jonathan Bowman)
CD RW - Awful simple question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: AMD vs. Cyrix vs. Pentium MMX (David Ripton)
Re: I want to build a junk machine (David Ripton)
linux users group in ham,on,ca (dragon)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.mac.portables
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Owen)
Subject: Re: *intermittent* dead pixels, laptop
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:29:28 GMT
In article <7bjcrm$ksl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I getthe same thing on my Dell 7000, 14.1" screen. One pixel, intermittent,
>then it goes away? what's happening here?
>
>
>
1024*768 = 786,432 Pixels
1 Dead Pixel = 99.9998728434244791667 % Reliability
10 Dead Pixels = 99.9987284342447916667 % Reliability
Strange how meaningless this fantastic accuracy is when _you're_ the one
with the dead pixel, Eh ?
I feel the same way ..... :-)
-G-
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Electrical & Computer Engineering Phone: (416) 978-2519
University of Toronto , Canada Fax: (416) 978-0804
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From: "Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intel 740 Help
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:01:48 -0800
Try Precision Insight Inc. at http:/www.precisioninsight.com/products.html
goood luck!
Derek
>
> Does anyone know how to get an Intel 740 Graphics card to work with
>Linux X11 or does anyone have any drivers for it.I searched for in on
>the redhat website, but all the link of relevance seem to be broken. If
>anyone could help me out with this problem I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse
Date: 05 Mar 1999 23:22:10 -0800
Lars Haugseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm having trouble getting the middle button to work in Linux
> with my Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse. I currently have a plain
> Red Hat 5.1 install. Would it help to upgrade to a newer version
> of XFree86?
There are a couple wheel-mouse info pages linked to from
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/pointing-devices.html
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From: Daniel STRICKER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TNT Xserver
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:44:45 +0000
Use Xfree86 3.3.3.1 with SVGA server.
PERSON654 wrote:
>
> I have a Dell computer, 450 Mhz with a STB Riva and i can't find the Xserver
> for it anywhere, does someone have it?
>
> Thank you
> Matt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://nirvanakicks.conk.com
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From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using DeskJet 400 Printer
Date: 6 Mar 1999 07:31:34 GMT
How do i get my printer working? do i mount the printer? I am using redhat
5.1 and totally lost in setting up a printer..
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From: "Mario Schrijver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.portable,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,fa.linux.sound,linux.act.laptops,linux.dev.laptop
Subject: ess 1868
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:30:15 +0100
Hi,
I've got a piece of hardware called a laptop which bothers me a lot.
It's got a ESS 1868 soundcart which is greatly recognised. I've got the
sound configured like a module. I'm using Redhat 5.2 with the new kernel.
2.2.1. Inserting the appropiate modules with "insmod" works ok until the
soundblaster module.
The following modules are used:
uart401
sound
soundcore
sb
I've configured the isapnp.conf like i should according to the HOWTO.
Loading the sb module results in: "resource is buisy"
Anyone have a clue what to do?
Regards,
Mario Schrijver
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:24:16 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:39:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
> wrote:
>
> >Mircea ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> >: Absolutely right ...
> >
> >In end result but not in how to get there. :-)
> >
> >: ... I remember, back in the eighties, about a program in
> >: x86 assembler that I had found in some magazine, and spent a whole
> >: afternoon typing in, that switched the 286 in protected mode, printed a
> >: message on the screen, and went back to real mode, all this w/o any
> >: apparent reboot, although a cpu reset was required to switch from
> >: protected to real mode. This was just a demo for the "new" operating
> >: mode of the 286. Maybe I can find it again in the piles of magazines I
> >: have!
> >
> >
> >Please do so. I don't believe you'll find an undocumented reset
> >instruction. You will probably find code that sets up BIOS to do a warm
> >boot and then asks the keyboard controller to reset the CPU. Later methods
> >used special I/O ports and multiple CPU faults.
> >
> >Tony
> >--
> >------------------
> >Tony Tribelli
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> actually, what this "undocumented" reset is is simply diliberately
> creating a triple fault. the cpu can catch a double fault and recover
> but the cpu resets under a triple fault situation. the code placed at
> the restart point is aware of what happened and gracefully recovers as
> if just switching back to real mode. just like has been explained.
>
> if you want the code, get your old dos 5 disks out and debug himem.sys
> since extended memory is only accessable in protected mode, himem.sys
> was constatnly swaping back and forth.
>
> tng
>
I doubt you will find it in himem.sys. It is my understanding that it
only uses the DMA controller to copy memory between extended and real
mode.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 08:24:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hope this posting will be of general interest to anyone interested
in Linux on notebooks.
My background with installing Linux is with my two home networked
PC workhorses, and on three different Dell notebooks at work for my
co-workers. Also have been reading the various writeups on the Linux
Laptop page and the HOWTO page (for newcommers), *however* I'm still
having trouble deciding which laptop to buy for my firewall/security
consulting practice. The issue is one of HW compatability mostly...
>From looking at the 16 page printout of compatable notebooks it looks
like Linux will run on almost anything, but I have seen the weirdnesses
with certain PCMCIA cards, like the combined Dell (56K modem + 10/100
Ethernet) cards. I have read about the problems with AMD processors
and installations. I know not to get a notebook with a WinModem.
So far I've been thinking about IBM ThinkPads, Compaqs, and of course
the mighty Dells (I love Dells but find them a tad pricy). Some
questions:
Do those really cheap, but fast AMD processor based notebooks Frys
sells work o.k. or are they problematic? The attraction is a
$1400 pricetag VS the $2200 for a comparable Dell.
The postings I read from the Laptop/Linux homepage were mostly a few
years old. will Linux and XFree86 run o.k. on the IBMs and Compaqs?
Is it worth it to spend the extra $1000 to get a Dell? Do they really
take more abuse, have less downtime, etc.
Bottom line I need strong compatability with both Linux and Windoze XX
(needed for writing those Security Policies, and running spreadsheets for
storing data usefully). I need the PCMCIA Ethernet and modem card(s) to
work with Linux. Don't want to have to hunt down drivers for certain
obscure new HW. I also *really* like the Synaptics touchpad and favor
notepads which have it, how is that driver written for Linux on notebooks?
Does anyone have any recomendations, that meet all these diverse needs?
I hope to spend less than $2000.
TIA, David
David Hawley - President
UNIX & NT Network Security, LLC
www.concentric.net/~drhawley
408-946-4110
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From: Zoub-Zoub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Canon BJC4000 series printers
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 08:31:19 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need a printer, and I would like to use a Canon. So I was wondering if
anyone had an idea of the drivers to use with the 4300 and/or 4400
models. Because I'd be very upset if I couldn't use my printer for
graphics under Linux!
So, does anyone have a clue?
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From: Eric Dizdarevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware MPEG decoders supported by LINUX ?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:20:50 +0800
Urgent !
Does anybody know if there are MPEG cards (decoders) supported by LINUX
?
Thanks.
Eric.
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From: "Igor Raznatovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME ... ? START ME UP!
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:53:43 -0600
I just intsalled GNOME on my Red Hat 5.2 box. Problem is I cant start it
up. Somebody in a chat room told me to put panel in xinitrc or to type it in
xterm. I tried and I was not satisfied...why? That is not the full desktop.
Then I found out about gnome-session. A document on Gnome site said to
include it in xinitrc and I did. But I got only plain ol' X (without a
window manager as I set it up). I typed in xterm gnome-session and this is
what I got:
Priority 00 : Starting Id = default0
Priority 00 : Cloning Id = default0
Priority 00 : Registering Id = (null)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[root@igor bin]# ICE default IO error handler doing on exit(), pid = 285,
errno= 2
Give me a hint...It 's not that I know a lot about it...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dell DVD-ROM drive under Linux
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:04:41 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone confirm/deny whether the Toshiba DVD-ROM drive Dell use in their
Dimension R/Txxx series machines works under Linux, either as a CD-ROM drive
or a DVD-ROM (if such a thing is possible)?
Thanks,
Paul.
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From: Karen Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DLT for Linux
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:51:09 -0600
Does anyone out there have experience with DLT 4000 by Quantum for
Linux? Are there better backup drives?
Please respond vie email.
Karen
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
Date: 28 Feb 1999 06:38:00 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Kyle Dansie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I plan on buying one of the Sony cameras that write to a floppy disk.
: I think that the images are a standard format like gif that you can
: read in Linux.
I have one of the first (an FD7) and it stores all the images in jpeg
format.
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zoom modem and Linux
Date: 28 Feb 1999 06:41:38 GMT
Jonathan D. Oman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have two external Zoom modems. One is the V.34X Plus, and the new one is
: the 56k DualMode. The V.34X has worked well with Slackware 3.6 / Kernal
: 2.0.35. The problem is the 56k DualMode modem. It never gets into 56k mode
: with Linux. It always drops down to V.34 mode.
[...]
: Has anyone successfully used this Zoom 56k modem with Linux, at high speed?
I have both a 2849 (Rockwell chipset) and 2949L (Lucent chipset) on my
Linux system. Both connect regularly to Ascend equipment on the ISP
side with DCE speeds of 52,000 in V.90 mode.
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Faurot | phzzzt.atww.org |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive - How to get Linux 5.1 to see it.
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:12:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tom Hulley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello..
> I have a SCSI Sony STD 5200 4 mm DAT drive and I just installed RedHat
> 5.1. I cant seem to get Linux to see the tape drive. Do I have to install a
> driver or something to configure a scsi tape drive.
Determine if you kernel supports (detects) your hardware.
Do "dmesg | less" and look for something like:
scsi0 : AdvanSys SCSI 2.0: PCI 240 CDB: IO FCC0-FCCF, IRQ 11
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: ARCHIVE Model: Python 00072-001 Rev: 4.BT
Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
st: Unloaded.
#cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
Vendor: ARCHIVE Model: Python 00072-001 Rev: 4.BT
Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
The aboves shows that my AdvanSys SCSI card and Python DAT were detected.
or look in "/var/log/messages".
#lsmod
Module: #pages: Used by:
st 7 0 (autoclean)
psaux 1 1 (autoclean)
misc 1 [psaux] 1 (autoclean)
advansys 17 0
scsi_mod 8 [st advansys] 2
You'll need "st" (SCSI tape) support as well as the other SCSI stuff.
Many programs usable with your DAT honor the environment-variable TAPE.
#echo $TAPE
/dev/nst0
Note: "/dev/nst0" is the non-rewinding device and "/dev/st0" rewinding.
TAPE can be defined in "~.bashrc, ~.profile, /etc/profile":
export TAPE=/dev/nst0
> Once I get this solved, my next question will be what backup software is
> best to use. I have used ufsdume on Solaris in the past.
Besides commercial products there are tar, dump/restore, afio, cpio, ... .
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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: canon bjc-5000
Date: 05 Mar 1999 12:28:49 -0500
Looking for Something ? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I got a canon bjc-5000 (actually it was a gift) and i just can't
> seem to make it print under linux. I've read all the documentation i
> could find, lpd, lpc, lpd.conf, printcap........ manpages and the
> Printing-HOWTO files and I just can't get it to print the status file
> says that it printed.
According to myee at ee.ryerson.ca, the BJC-500 is a paperweight; the
usual Linux software does not support it. I'm not 100% convinced that
this is true; as is, this is the only Canon ink jet in my list that
doesn't work at least a little bit. The likely candidates for
Ghostscript drivers would be the bjc600 and bjc800 drivers.
The Linux Printing HOWTO's interactive compatability listing lives at
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi
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Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
Libretto information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
Linux Printing HOWTO: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/
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From: Marc Knoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Viper550 or Xpert@Play?
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:42:36 -0500
Folks,
I'm just about to build myself a big fat Linux box and would like to hear
comments/opinions on the two cards. In my past experience, I have had
trouble with Diamond Cards. How about now?
TIA,
../mk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Piniek aka Piotr Ingling)
Subject: Re: How do I install my ZIP drive with Linux RedHat 5.2
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:57:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dnia Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:13:12 +0200, Bernhard Rau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
napisa�(a):
>Hi there,
> I just installed Linux, RedHat version 5.2 on my laptop and
>connected an Iomega parallel Zip drive to it. For whatever reason, the
>Zip drive is not detected during the boot process:
>
>scsi : 0 hosts.
>scsi : detected total.
[...]
>Anyway, I wouldn't know why the device should be busy, but I have no
>idea
>how to check this. the command 'lsmod' gives the follwing result:
>
>$ lsmod
>pcnet_cs 2 1
>8390 2 [pcnet_cs] 0
>ds 2 [pcnet_cs] 2
>i82365 5 2
>pcmcia_core 9 [pcnet_cs ds i82365] 0
>nls_iso8859_1 1 1 (autoclean)
>nls_cp437 1 1 (autoclean)
>vfat 4 1 (autoclean)
>cs4232 1 0
>uart401 2 [cs4232] 0
>ad1848 4 [cs4232] 0
>sound 15 [cs4232 uart401 ad1848] 0
>soundcore 1 [sound] 5
>soundlow 1 [sound] 0
>
[...]
Of course your kernel have parallel port support compiled in? And if it is,
try setting your port in BIOS to EPP-only mode (not ECP or ECP-EPP) or even go
down to standard (SPP) mode - maybe your port doesn't implement EPP correctly.
Piotr Ingling
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multi-Disc CD-ROM TEAC /w linux
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:54:40 +0000
Klaus Wilting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is there a convenient way to operate a TEAC CD-C68E multi-disc CD ROM
: drive with linux?
: What i now miss is a convenient user interface, e.g. like a web-page,
: to allow users to switch CD-ROMs on server remotely.
: Any ideas? Thank you for submitting your tips/tricks/hints!
eject -c works fine, but generates an error under 2.2.x kernels (note: the
command does work (i.e. it changes slot correctly) but it generates an
incorrect error message). There is a very simple patch for this. I have
the patch at home, email me if you need it.
Lots of people have thought what a good idea it would be to have a better
interface for these drives. A GUI interface to eject -c would be really
easy to do, but the real solution is a mechanism which allows all of the
drives to be mounted at once (a la SCSI changers). Several people
(including myself) have poked around at this problem, but no-one has really
got a grip on it yet.
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are these hardware compatible for Linux?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:49:08 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A list is available at redhat.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,I use Compaq Presario 2210 at this time.
> This PC has became too slow for these days applications,
> so I am considering to buy a new PC.
> I will use that new PC for windows game ,like Age of Empires
> and I use that PC for linux and gcc and vi also.
> I reserched some shop for cheap PC and I found some cheap PCs.
> But I feel I have to check those hardwares are compatible
> for Linux or not.
> So I write those hardware down here,and if you know the
> compatibility of those hardware,please write it down here.
> Thanks.
>
> AMD K6-2/350
> Celeron300A
> SDRAM 64MB PC-100 CL=2
> E-IDE HDD 6.4GB
> Aladdin or MVP3/ATX
> INTEL 440BX /ATX
> INTEL i740 8MB AGP
> ATAPI 36x
> FDD 2 mode
> PCI Sound Card (YMF724)
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Video capture on a laptop
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:07:39 GMT
I'm looking into doing video capture on a laptop
(i.e. all those Linux-supported PCI video capture boards
won't do me much good). Does anyone know if any of
the alternative video capture products (PC cards, parallel
port peripherals, IBM Thinkpad's built-in video capture)
work under Linux??
I don't check this newsgroup regularly, so please email
responses to me.
Thanks,
Chris Sanders
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From: Jonathan Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is this a good modem?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:21:14 -0500
I'm thinking of getting a 3COM/U.S. ROBOTICS 56K V90 EXT FAXMODEM for my
RedHat 5.2 Pentium 166 system. Is this modem Linux compatible? My old
Boca (I think it may have Rockwell problems, I don't know) always
appears "busy" to Linux. Thanks for any response.
Jonathan Bowman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD RW - Awful simple question
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:46:41 GMT
Hi,
I'm not familiar with CD RW, and I was wondering if you can format a RW CD to
act as another drive under Linux. This obviously works on PCs, but I'm not
certain if this requires special software or drivers on the PC.
All I want to use the CD RW for is backing up Linux.
Thanks,
Jonathan French
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ripton)
Subject: Re: AMD vs. Cyrix vs. Pentium MMX
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:30:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Shon Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>> Greg H. wrote:
>> > BCD User ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> > > I am going to upgrade my CPU and am wondering if there is any
>> > > performance data regarding the big three CPU's. I suppose AMD's 3-DNow
>> > > is essentially useless for Linux, but is that true for MMX instructions
>> > > as well? I am moving from a pentium 100. Motherboard is Super 7. Tom's
>> > > Hardware guide only gives 95 and NT performance data.
>> >
>> > As far as I know, Linux currently does _not_ take advantage of the
>> > MMX instruction set.
Neither does almost anything else. MMX is almost completely useless.
>> Don't use AMDK6 if you don't want to mess in crasy problems.
The K6 is fine for Linux. A friend and I did our own ad-hoc Linux
benchmark using the bladeenc MP3 encoder and the same CD, and my
Pentium II walked all over his K6 MHz for MHz, presumably due to
the faster L2 cache.
>> About the MMX support I may suggest you looking in the Bogomips howto.
>> I enclose twos rate speed for Pentium200 with and without MMX
>>
>> Pentium/200 81.92 bogomips
>> Pentium MMX/200 400.59 bogomips
That has nothing to do with MMX. The P55C CPU is called the Pentium MMX
but the real improvements over the P54C are due to bigger L1 cache, not
a bunch of instructions that aren't being used.
>> Interprete yourself but read the howto!
As the HOWTO indicates, Bogomips are useless for comparing CPUs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ripton)
Subject: Re: I want to build a junk machine
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:03:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got some bits spare and I want to build a cheap machine
> ("junkie") to be my software lab. Since my current machine runs all
> the time and has my webserver, shell accounts for friends etc it's
> quite upsetting when I break things badly on it.
>
> What I've got is :
>
> Pentium Classic, 75MHz. Not overclockable even to 90MHz.
A P55C-233 is $62 new. A modern K6 or Celeron is only a tad more.
Keep that in mind before you spend too much on anything that uses
this. A free CPU doesn't mean as much as it used to.
> 64MB junk no-name non parity RAM in 4 72 pin 70 ns SIMMS.
EDO or FPM? Worth using either way. You need a board with 4 SIMM
slots, which a lot of newer Super 7 boards won't have.
> Totally crap Samtron 15" SVGA high-res monitor (1024x768@60Hz).
> 1 MB Avance Logic PCI graphics card (ALG2303-ALG1300/1)
Good enough for a server. I don't know if that card is supported
under XFree86.
> Aztech Waverider Pro32-3d soundcard (some kind of Soundblaster
> clone)
If it works, great. If not, sound is optional.
> Adaptech 8-bit non-interrupt driven (I think) SCSI adaptor (AVA-1502AE)
Motherboards come with free IDE ports. I don't see a SCSI drive in
this pile, so don't lock yourself into using this.
> As you can see, it's all junk, total crap, real garbage
> (particularly that SCSI card). However it all works with Linux (to
> some degree) and it's all here in my apartment.
>
> What I'd like are suggestions to allow me to a) make a machine out
> of these bits and b) network it to my real machine (mihalis) which
> is a little (not much) better. Obviously it's not worth spending
> lots of money on other bits to reuse these seeing as performance
> wont be critical, I just want the good value basic stuff.
>
> The minimum then is :
>
> Socket 7 motherboard, tower case, power supply, floppy drive, hard
> disk, keyboard, mouse.
>
> Also eventually it would need
>
> PCI network card, "decent" SCSI card
>
> although I might postpone those bits for the time being.
>
> The ultimate aim is get a hub so I can network junkie, mihalis and
> also my old NeXT cube together over simple UTP but that will be a
> way off!
>
> I've spent a bit of time looking at various sites but most of the
> package deals make you buy a cpu. Conversely if you just add up all
> the bits as separate purchases, it starts to come out rather
> uncompetitive even without a cpu.
>
> I would love to hear any and all suggestions (individual components
> on up to web sites you think I should get the whole kit and caboodle
> at).
4-port 10 Mbps hubs are dirt cheap. Good 10/100 PCI NICs (Netgear
FA310TX) are dirt cheap. The networking part won't be that bad.
Hard disks are relatively expensive, even small ones. Once a drive
falls below about $150 it usually disappears from the market. Maybe
find a used one.
Floppy + keyboard + case + PS + mouse + motherboard screams "buy a
whole used machine cheap." You do not want to spend $150 on stuff
for a Pentium 75 system, especially since you'll end up with a
bunch of dead-end parts that won't carry forward to your next real
machine. (AT vs. ATX.)
I think you need too many parts for this upgrade to be worth it.
You might want to see what a whole used Pentium 75 / 100 / 133
machine minus monitor sells for in your area. Try a computer
show.
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From: dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux users group in ham,on,ca
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:41:40 GMT
Hey. Dragon here. We are starting a new users group in Hamilton, On,
Canada. All linuxheads please e-mail me as we would love to start sharing
knowledge.
Thanx!
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