Linux-Hardware Digest #602, Volume #9 Mon, 8 Mar 99 20:13:41 EST
Contents:
33.6 USR modem with no manual (Michael)
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info ("Wilson Fletcher")
linux + cheap pport color camera (Chris Green)
my mouse in windowmaker (Helpdeks User)
Re: CD RW - Awful simple question ("Julian Schanze")
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony Ord)
Re: Linux and Multiprozessing (David Ripton)
Epson GT6000 scanners (Adrian Smith)
Linux Compatibility with Dell Laptops ("Matthew Denny")
Linux DSL ("Stavros C. Kassinos")
Re: help me choose hardware for my new Linux box (Andrew Comech)
LINUX and IBM PS/2 (Andy Hering)
Network card with RedHat ("sdfdsfcszd")
Re: Q: mem=64M in lilo.conf (dangerous???) (Steve Browne)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Ian D Romanick)
Re: i740 is slow on X? (John Thompson)
Re: Which SMP Motherboard? (BL)
Re: Help with external IDSN pls (childsplay)
Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers (childsplay)
Asus P2B-DS all the way... (Todd Schrubb)
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From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 33.6 USR modem with no manual
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:26:54 GMT
I need the jumper settings for this modem. I tried every setting (i
think) the com jumpers has a "0" a "1" and a "sel" and the IRQ goes from
"2 to 6" ( i think).
I left the IRQ on 3 and played with the com settings but could not get
the modem to work in linux.
I was using that WVDail where is scan ttys1 and 2 and it sends that port
a "at" but it never responds.
The mother board had a setting to allow IRQ 3 and 4 to be used by ISA so
i said yes to both of them and change the jumpers for another Hour and
no luck.
It is a P5A board.
Should i test it with somthing else instead of WVDail?
TIA
mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: 8 Mar 1999 19:20:54 GMT
In article <ht0ub7.uq1.ln@loopback>, Pete Jewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't want to start any flame wars - however - /some/ people may
>misconstrue your reluctance to state prices in the currencies used
>in the newsgroups you crosspost to as arrogance, which in turn could
>start an unnecessary flame war.
It's perfectly acceptable to post listings in a single currency,
as long as the currency is actually stated (such as US$, UK#, AU$).. The
currency converter (http://www.xe.net/currency/) is your friend..
Besides, if the deal was priced in US$, it should be posted in US$,
because in any event the price may be different for non-US customers
anyway.
--
Mathew A. Hennessy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'So the next time someone says, "I have a 50K file for you," your next
exclamation needs to be, "Wow, that's cold!"' - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://208.201.18.9/shout/ mp3 feeds 24/7 (barring net hangs ;)
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From: "Wilson Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: 8 Mar 1999 22:19:35 GMT
Maybe you wouldn't complain so loudly if you had ever tried using a dodgy
brothers network card on a big network. Cheaper network clones often don't
guarantee unique MAC addresses and I have personally been burned by this.
ie. have a look at the messages produced bu dhcpd and then tell me you want
everyone in the world to be responsible for configuring their own MAC
addresses.
Now unique ID's in software or processors etc I can understand complaining
about but the unique ID in network cards (forgive my naivete) seems to be
for a very good reason.
Wilson Fletcher
Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On 27 Feb 1999 11:31:44 -0500, Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> There are lots of reasons to not buy Intel, but this strikes me as one
of
> >> the worst. Every Network CARD ever installed in a PC has a unique
ID and
> >> no one ever complained about them. The best thing the Linux
community
> >> could do is to get behind a non Intel platform.
>
> The K7 is going to be worth a look.
>
> >The unfortunate thing is
> >> that the only other Mass produced computing platform is the MAC.
Not that
> >> there is anything wrong with the MAC, its just that the PowerPC seems
to be
> >> under performing as far as performance increases go.
> >
> >1) the MAC addr can easily be changed
> >2) the MAC addr can only be retrieved directly from a local LAN
> >3) many machines (token ring, PPP, ATM) don't have an ethernet MAC
>
> And modems don't have them, which is how most people connect to the
> internet.
>
> Regards
>
> Anthony
> --
> -----------------------------------------
> | And when our worlds |
> | They fall apart |
> | When the walls come tumbling in |
> | Though we may deserve it |
> | It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
> -----------------------------------------
>
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From: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux + cheap pport color camera
Date: 08 Mar 1999 17:16:43 -0500
What cheap parallel port camera can I buy for linux and what
drivers do I use? I don't need super-fast grabs and the only software
I need is something to grab an image from the command line and spit it
out in some standard format. It's for a remote monitoring application
via the web.
Any suggestions baout HW, where to buy it, and what SW to use
greatly appreciated.
--
Chris Green
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From: Helpdeks User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: my mouse in windowmaker
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:52:32 -0700
hey does anyone know how to fix a mouse that is off center in windowmaker
it is like it needs to be centered and i cant find where to do this
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From: "Julian Schanze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD RW - Awful simple question
Date: 8 Mar 1999 18:59:17 GMT
>And still there are restrictions. You only get about 500 megs of data
>space on a packet CD, and when you delete files, the space used by
>them is not reclaimable.
Thats wrong.. Thats the thing with CD -Rs but not with CD-RWs... you can
delete CD -RWs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:35:08 GMT
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:52:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) wrote:
>
>: >Please do so. I don't believe you'll find an undocumented reset
>: >instruction. You will probably find code that sets up BIOS to do a warm
>: >boot and then asks the keyboard controller to reset the CPU. Later methods
>: >used special I/O ports and multiple CPU faults.
>:
>: actually, what this "undocumented" reset is is simply diliberately
>: creating a triple fault. the cpu can catch a double fault and recover
>: but the cpu resets under a triple fault situation. the code placed at
>: the restart point is aware of what happened and gracefully recovers as
>: if just switching back to real mode. just like has been explained.
>
>Agreed, but it's not a simple 'instruction', and messing with the
>Interrupt Descriptor Table is not something a user level program can do.
With IE "a part of the OS" and ActiveX components running amok within
it, the "user level" is problem is academic.
Got the nastiest feeling this is going to turn out like the f00f
problem...
>Tony
Regards
Anthony
--
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| And when our worlds |
| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ripton)
Subject: Re: Linux and Multiprozessing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:42:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tuomo O. Vuolteenaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, David Ripton wrote:
>I've been told (original source is Raimo Koski's book) that Linux can read
>from both IDE ports (abuse of terminology?) simultaneously. This would
>make it faster to have half of the swap space on the other disc. Also,
>for most disks reading is faster from the beginning of the disk (i.e.,
>outer cylinders at, say, 3.5Mb/s for a particular disk) than from the end
>of the disk (inner cylinder at, say, 2Mb/s). The same source indicated
>that seek time is shortest in the middle of the disc, but that this is
>less of an issue with the swap space. This would suggest making both
>drives masters (as you suggested) and put half of the swap space on each
>disk.
Putting the drives on separate IDE controllers is pretty obvious as it works
around a hardware bottleneck. The benefit of putting the swap partition on
its own drive is that you eliminate thrashing between swap and data, plus you
keep your swap contiguous which is good assuming locality in memory usage.
You'll have to test to know for sure.
>> >5. How can I detect memory errors? How do I know if I got bad
>> >chips from the vendor or if the bus speed I just set is ridiculous? I
>> >believe memory errors are very rare in most cases, true or not? Remember,
>> >I don't have ECC.
>>
>> If you got real PC100, it should work great on a 100 MHz bus. (At that
>> price, you need to be somewhat suspicious.)
>
>www.1stchoicememory.com claims that their memory is true PC100, not some
>reprogrammed slow chips. I called them and asked, and they at least knew
>the answers I wanted to hear.
I have some alleged PC100 that's not, and it's fine at 103 MHz but not 112.
So it appears to be a conservative spec. Still offends me that there's so
much fraud in the memory business. One company's web page strongly
recommends against running their cheap PC100 at 100 MHz. A layer of
honesty atop a layer of fraud.
>> Probably also 103 MHz, but remember it's PC100 not PC103, so that's
>> one more thing you're overclocking. But since you don't have ECC or
>> parity, if there is a problem you may never know. Do some burn-in
>> testing; set your machine to compile a kernel over and over in a loop.
>> If you get a sig 11 error, you've got a problem. Back off. If you
>> don't, you don't know for sure but you're probably okay. If you need
>> more reliability than that, then dual overclocked hacked Celerons and
>> non-ECC memory might not be enough for you.
>
>That's a good tip, the compiling test. Can software somehow detect
>possible memory errors? In Windows NT, the OS keeps some sort of a log of
>memory errors. Is this only for ECC or all type of memory?
It's not hard to write a simple memory test program. Allocate a big block
of memory, write to it, read from it, compare values, repeat a whole lot.
If the compare fails, assume a memory error. Obviously the trivial
version of this program might hit cache instead of RAM, might not test
all RAM, might be too slow to catch some timing problems, etc. The
repeated kernel compile isn't trying to be the perfect tester, but it
hits your system pretty hard, so it might work better in some situations.
So might Quake or Netscape or a big benchmark suite. (There are lots
of amusing posts by overclocking newbies who want to dismiss problems
in one or 5 or 347 programs and insist that their hyperclocked
systems are stable. Hmm, didn't AMD pull this same line with that K6
memory bug a while back?)
I don't know what NT's doing, but I can't think of a way it could catch
general memory errors without hardware parity. (The OS could virtualize
every memory access, but the speed penalty would be severe.)
>I like the accuracy of SUN's optical mice. On the other hand, my MS mouse
>feels really good now. That is, after I bought "3M Precise Mousing
>Surface." That was the best spent $5 ever!
Mine were $13 direct from 3M. Who sells them for $5?
The PMS will sometimes warp if the climate is wrong (3M sent me a free
replacement for my warped one), so i recommend using spray adhesive to
affix it to your desk. Follow the "temporary" mount procedure and it'll
come off later.
--
David Ripton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spamgard(tm): To email me, put "geek" in your Subject line.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian Smith)
Subject: Epson GT6000 scanners
Date: 8 Mar 1999 19:39:39 -0000
Hello,
I'm hoping that someone here can give me a some help with my scanner.
I saw the GT6000 mentioned in the hardware howto, and bought myself a
nice cheap second hand scsi Epson GT6500 scanner which is software
compatible with the GT6000, GT8000, GT4000 and GT1000.
The supporting software mentioned in the hardware howto is:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/capture/ppic05.tar.gz
but I'm having to go through it trying to sort out parse errors etc.
I guess gcc and some of the system include files have changed quite a bit
between 1995 and whenever the 2.0.34 kernel came out.
I'm confident that I will be able to get it to compile and work ok, but
it'd be nice if someone had already done the work for me.
I also tried Sane which I didn't expect to work with this scanner, and it
didn't (I got a segmentation fault from "scanimage -d epson:/dev/sgc ...")
but I'd be interested if someone was working on a version that would.
Adrian Smith
http://www.snaffles.demon.co.uk
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From: "Matthew Denny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Compatibility with Dell Laptops
Date: 8 Mar 1999 19:21:48 GMT
I'm looking at pruchasing a Dell Laptop, and I was wondering if anyone has
any info. on Linux (Specifically RH 5.x) compatibility with
Dell Inspirion 7000 (particularly thoses with the DVDs)
3Com MegaHertz 3CCFEM656 Combo Ethernet 10/100 + V.90 Modem card
Xircom RealPort or CreditCard Combo Ethernet 10/100 + V.90 Modem card
None of these items are on the HCL, but I was wondering if anyone had any
success in getting them to work on their own. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
thanks,
Matt Denny
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From: "Stavros C. Kassinos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux DSL
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:31:25 -0800
Is anybody aware whether the DSL hardware used by PacBell for their DSL
service is compatible with Linux? My main concern is whether the
Ethernet card they use with their package is one for which Linux has
drivers. If anybody has experience with this I would appreciate some
enlightment...
- Thanx
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From: Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help me choose hardware for my new Linux box
Date: 8 Mar 1999 14:56:29 -0500
Regarding modems -- check out
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
If you have money for 128MB (ECC SDRAM is about $200), it is
certainly worth buying. At least, this is a better investment
than paying about the same for a 20% increase in a clock rate.
Best,
Andrew
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From: Andy Hering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX and IBM PS/2
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:22:41 -0800
Hi,
I have an old IBM PS/2 that I'm not using. I was wondering if I could
use Linux on it instead of Windows. It is a 386/20, so it is not super
fast. Can someone tell me if this is feasible to do? I only want to
play around with Linux; I don't have any immediate plans for it.
Thanks,
Andy
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From: "sdfdsfcszd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network card with RedHat
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:27:04 +0100
Hi !!
I've tried to install RedHat 5.1 Everything is ok, except my network
card....
It isn't compatible to NE2000...probably...
it's a 32-bit PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter [NDIS3]
UE 1211-TX with a DEC chip probably....
is it possible, that this card won't work with RedHat ?? (I've set IRQ,
I/O.....
Had somebody similar problem ???
thanks for help in advance
Pawel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Browne)
Subject: Re: Q: mem=64M in lilo.conf (dangerous???)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 23:29:28 GMT
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:38:51 +0100, "Eric Chopin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>
>I have installed Debian Linux on my Gateway Solo with 64Mb RAM.
>I've just seen that it uses only 16Mb RAM and I can't use some
>software (MuPAD,....) which may take a lot of memory.
>
>I've seen in a documentation (but it was not clear), that I
>could add the parameter mem=64M somewhere in my
>lilo.conf file, but that it could be dangerous sometimes.
>
>Does someone know if this command is rather safe
>and what is precisely the syntax I should add in my
>lilo.conf file (which I use to launch Linux or Windows).
>
> Thanks by advance and sorry if the question has already
>been raised (I guess so...).
>
> Eric Chopin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Add:
append="mem=64MB"
to lilo.conf. Not dangerous.
Steve
Stephen B. Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian D Romanick)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 8 Mar 1999 12:09:36 -0800
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Again this is an address space
>> issue best solved by a 64 bit processor. Even NT breakes up the address
>> space of an i386 in such a way that user adressable memory is
>> limited.
>i was responding to someone who thought that you might need more than
>4 GB of RAM yet no single process needed more than 4 GB (in order to
>avoid `far' pointers). if you need the BIG RAM, it is because you
>have ONE task which requires it. 7 tasks needing 1 GB each would be
>better served running one after another in series on a smaller machine
>or spread over several smaller boxes.
>since intel cannot access more than 4 GB cleanly, it would make a
>whole lot of sense to use a processor with real 64 bit address modes.
This thread sort of confuses me. Everyone is talking as if only insane
crack smokers would would an x86 based machine with big memory. If that's
the case, then why does Sequent sell quad-Xeon machines to be used as Oracle
servers that support upto 64GB?
http://www.sequent.com/products/highend_srv/numa_xeonspec.html
The fact is that supporting big memory IS useful. Even if each process is
limited to 4GB, that's an improvment over the current situation.
Either decide to support it and do it, or decide not to support it and don't
do it. Don't argue about wheather or not it useful. That's just a waste of
everybody's time and bandwidth.
--
"I used to hang out by the food table at parties
because you don't really have to talk to anybody,
and if you do, you can talk about the food."
-- Jennifer Jason Leigh http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~idr/
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i740 is slow on X?
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 13:01:01 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,I posted about i740 8mb AGP video card compatibility
> question,and I got 2 types of answers.
> the first is i740 8mb AGP works on X fine and has no problem,
> and second is i740 is too slow for X like molasses.
If you use a generic x server you won't get the accelerated
functions. The XBF_i740 server seems to work well enough
for me in accelerated mode, but I have heard some reports of
specific color depths not supporting the accelerated
features (24bit?; I use 16bit here and it is fine). Maybe a
search on dejanews would get you more information?
> Which is true?
>
> and I some people on #Linux on some IRC server told me that
> try use metroX, or AcceleratedX.
>
> I heard they are first commercial X server.
> Using those X server clears i740 slow speed problem?
> Are they free?
The XBF_i740 server is free but the MetroX isn't. If you're
really concerned you may want to hold out for one of the
Matrox G200 cards; I hear they're better performers than the
i740 based cards in any environment, but they do cost a bit
more.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Which SMP Motherboard?
Date: 8 Mar 1999 20:10:13 GMT
the only one worth running: the asus p2b series.
solid as a rock.
(also running modified dual celerons, o/c @ 450 apiece) ;-)
kernel 2.2.2 make -j2 time: under 2 minutes. mmmm - nice ;-)
In comp.os.linux.networking Hefin James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi all,
: I'm currently specifying a machine for a major Linux based server
: project.
: Has anybody using the Intel L440GX+ motherboard?
: It has a Adaptec AIC7896 U2W and UW channels, and a graphics card on
: board, which is supported by Linux.
: It also has Intel EtherExpress PRO 100+ chip onboard but it uses the
: Intel 82559 chip which is not mentioned in the eepro100.c driver. Has
: anybody else got this card? and more importantly does it work?
: What SMP motherboard you running?
: Cheers,
: Hefin
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From: childsplay <"childsplay"@planetquake.com (no Spam)>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help with external IDSN pls
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 17:24:32 -0600
Thnk you very much
David Heinzinger wrote:
> http://www.cl.ais.net/mrroper1/aislinux.html
> try ppp option of asyncmap 0
> it did the trick fir me.
>
> --
> Dave.
--
Charles "childsplay" VanDyke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ# 14539920 ============
]TeamGameSpy[ ============
http://www.gamespy.com ===
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From: childsplay <"childsplay"@planetquake.com (no Spam)>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 17:13:58 -0600
Thank you :)
DanH wrote:
> Robert Bentley wrote:
> >
> > All I want to know is what this has to do with linux , and this newsgroup
> > Peyton Bay wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >childsplay wrote:
> > >
>
> Well, it is a good way to break the ice and wake people up about what M$
> is doing and opening that there are "other" operating systems out there.
>
> Dan
--
Charles "childsplay" VanDyke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ# 14539920 ============
]TeamGameSpy[ ============
http://www.gamespy.com ===
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From: Todd Schrubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Asus P2B-DS all the way...
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:05:52 -0500
I must second the motion.... I've got two overclocked celerons in there
too- but one is a piece 'O crap so I'm only up to 375MHz. The AIC7xxx
works like a charm under v2.2.1, not to mention SMP.
Good luck with the choice...
Todd Schrubb
BL wrote:
> the only one worth running: the asus p2b series.
>
> solid as a rock.
>
> (also running modified dual celerons, o/c @ 450 apiece) ;-)
>
> kernel 2.2.2 make -j2 time: under 2 minutes. mmmm - nice ;-)
>
> In comp.os.linux.networking Hefin James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Hi all,
>
> : I'm currently specifying a machine for a major Linux based server
> : project.
> : Has anybody using the Intel L440GX+ motherboard?
> : It has a Adaptec AIC7896 U2W and UW channels, and a graphics card on
> : board, which is supported by Linux.
>
> : It also has Intel EtherExpress PRO 100+ chip onboard but it uses the
> : Intel 82559 chip which is not mentioned in the eepro100.c driver. Has
> : anybody else got this card? and more importantly does it work?
>
> : What SMP motherboard you running?
>
> : Cheers,
> : Hefin
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