Linux-Hardware Digest #609, Volume #10           Sun, 27 Jun 99 21:13:40 EDT

Contents:
  SuSe on Asus AMD K6-2 450Mhz 128K system ("Patrick van Beem")
  BusLogic module initialization fails (Tom Dye)
  Re: More or fewer drives better for RAID ("Tony C")
  Re: USB/Serial q's (Bradley M Keryan)
  Re: SuSe on Asus AMD K6-2 450Mhz 128K system (Bradley M Keryan)
  aha2930 undetectable..Can't think anymore...] (Douglas E Harmon)
  Re: (despite my occasional anti-linux post, read this)  was Re: Monitor dies while 
installing Redhat 5.2 ("ToXIc MYsT")
  Re: SuSe on Asus AMD K6-2 450Mhz 128K system ("r.tolga")
  Gateway Telepath for windows with X2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Shashank)
  2 mice on SuSE 6.1 (Brad Hickerson)
  Re: Recommendation needed for Tape Backup drive (Chris Mauritz)
  Re: help with SAMBA pwds (Hayden Brown)

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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:50:37 +0200
From: "Patrick van Beem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSe on Asus AMD K6-2 450Mhz 128K system

Hello,

Today, I tried to install the SuSe 6.1 on my new Asus P5a mobo system
running an AMD K6-2 450Mhz with 1M L2 cache and 128M SDRam. With no succes.
The system boots OK from the first CD-Rom but then gives a kernal panic and
halts. Same when I use the boot-disk. Is any part of this hardware not
supported? Any one any ID? Or running on a similair system?

The rest of the system consists of:
 13G Maxtor UDMA HD
 Hauppauge video digitizer / TV tuner (PCI)
 Asus V3400-AGP gfx card with TV-out
 Ne2000 comp. ISA network card
 Motorola 57k6 internal PCI
 Soundblaster 64 PCI
 AOpen 6x DVD

BTW: W98 is running extremely instable on this machine, BeOS 4.0 runs just
fine...

Greetings,

Patrick van Beem
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dye)
Subject: BusLogic module initialization fails
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:25:05 GMT

Here is a better description of a problem I posted last week.

During a cold boot, the BusLogic module loads but fails to
initialize.  It reports:

    /lib/BusLogic.o: init_module: Device or resource busy

dmesg produces the following information after the boot:

    BusLogic: FlashPoint Host Adapter detected at PCI Bus 0 Device 14
    BusLogic: I/O Address 0xDC00 PCI Address 0xFD001000, but FlashPoint
    BusLogic: Probe Function failed to validate it.
    scsi : 0 hosts.

If I follow with a warm boot, all is well.

How can I get things to work right first time through?

Thanks in advance,

Tom
--
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Home: 813 16th Avenue, Honolulu, Hawaii 96816.  Voice (808) 734-2087.
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From: "Tony C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More or fewer drives better for RAID
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:09:59 -0700

I work for a Storage array vendor and there are some things to consider when
choosing one type of Raid protection over another. Typically Raid-5 will not
perform as well as Raid-1 (mirroring). The reason is that for every write
operation in a Raid-5 array you also have to read and write the parity disk.
This can cause bottlenecks in heavy write situations. For reads, the
performance is nearly the same though usually Raid-5 is implemented with
stripping which can be beneficial for both reads and writes. If you lose a
drive Raid-5 performance will drop dramatically since you will have to
recalculate the data from the surviving disks (including the parity disk).

The other consideration as has been pointed out is that Raid-5 has less
'overhead' than mirroring. By that I mean that the total useable disk will
be a higher percentage of the total raw capacity with Raid-5 than with
mirroring. It is usually easier to add drives to a mirrored configuration
but you will have to add them 2 at a time. With Raid-5 you might be able to
add a single disk (if the Raid controller supports it) but you will most
likely have to back-up the data before you add the new drive. After the
drive has been added and the Raid-5 group rebuilt you can then restore your
data.

Here is  how I summarize it:

Raid-1 (mirroring): easier to implement, better performance, higher cost
Raid-5 (parity): cheaper, more difficult to manage, slightly lower
performance than mirroring

Cheers
TC

Jimmie Houchin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Thanks to Justin B Willoughby, Tony Platt, Dr Rowan Hughes for
>replying to my post.
>
>After posting I went to search for more raid information at the DPT
>site. I learned I didn't understand as much as I thought, which wasn't
>much. :)
>
>If able to, RAID 1 looks the best.
>DPT says that you can add drives to the array anytime you need more
>space.
>
>With mirroring they would have to be added in pairs?
>With RAID 5 they could be added one at time?
>Is this correct?
>
>The website will be built using Apache, JServ and Java Servlets. It
>will be database oriented. About the only thing potentially not in the
>database will be images. The database will be very large.
>
>Does the single app, database oriented website impact the choice of
>which RAID?
>
>Will RAID help any with the 2gb file size limit on 32bit Linux?
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Jimmie Houchin
>
>
>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:39:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>SNIP SNIP




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From: Bradley M Keryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB/Serial q's
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:47:02 -0400

On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Bruce E. Sturgen wrote:

> I am considering the purchase of either a Dell Inspiron 7K or Gateway 2K
> Solo 9150 laptop and installing RH6 on it. I looked at the Linux Laptop
> HOWTO, the Dell I7K HOWTO and an out of date Linux USB page.

Information about the current state of Linux USB and what is/isn't
supported is at http://www.linux-usb.org/

Right now the code is "developmental" but once it's stable it should be
backported to 2.2.x. 

> 
> While I know the base configuration (except for the crappy winmodem stuff)
> of these laptops is supported I was wondering if anyone has experience
> with configuring:
>  any of the USB wheel mice
>  USB modems

Some USB modems are winmodems too, by the way.

>  serial digital cameras (specifically the Olympus D-320L).
> 
> I was also wondering about the support of two serial devices on one port
> (the digital camera and palm pilot syncing). I've never run into a serial
> port shortage on my other desktop machines ;)
> 
> Are there any projects out there for support of these devices I can assist
> with should I purchase the notebook? I didn't find much on USB at the LDP
> or RH sites.
> 
> TIA
> 
> bes
> 
> -- 
> Bruce E. Sturgen
> Object Technology and Internet Consultant
> Think Different!
> A polar bear is a rectangular bear after a coordinate change.
> 

        Brad


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From: Bradley M Keryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSe on Asus AMD K6-2 450Mhz 128K system
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:36:17 -0400

On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Patrick van Beem wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Today, I tried to install the SuSe 6.1 on my new Asus P5a mobo system
> running an AMD K6-2 450Mhz with 1M L2 cache and 128M SDRam. With no succes.
> The system boots OK from the first CD-Rom but then gives a kernal panic and
> halts. Same when I use the boot-disk. Is any part of this hardware not

When you get a kernel panic, you also get a message explaining the panic,
such as "unable to mount root fs" or "attempted to kill the idle task!".
What is the message? Without it, no one can help you.

> supported? Any one any ID? Or running on a similair system?
> 
[hardware list snipped]
> 
> BTW: W98 is running extremely instable on this machine, BeOS 4.0 runs just
> fine...

Have you checked the processor or mobo temperature while Win98 was
running? I have a K6-2 450 with a Tyan S1590S and it gets quite hot
(although heatsink compound and another fan helped that situation).

BTW (just curious) does BeOS work with your modem?

        Brad


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From: Douglas E Harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aha2930 undetectable..Can't think anymore...]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 05:49:26 -0400
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Hi all....

        I have aproblem that has me stumped... I have a celron 333,intel
board(440lx),onboard yamaha-pci sound, onboard mach64-agp. Two pci
slots, and one isa with a modem, ne2000 clone, and an aha-2930uc scsi.
My problem is that I can not auto probe or manualy insmod the scsi. I
have recompiled the kerel four times, twice with the aic7xxx driver
modular and twice as monolithic. I am also using scsi emulation for an
atapi cdrw. When you use modprobe on the modular version it gives you a
'device or resource busy' and fails. I don't think the scsi emulation
has anything to do with it since I had a pas16-scsi and scsi emulation
working in another computer with kernel 2.0.36. I am booting off of hda
so I don't think I need a new initrd. An attachment of the dmesg output
is included. Is there something simple I can't see?

kernel 2.2.6 and 2.2.10 (tried both)
pci reports 
ide interface i/o at 0x1000
usb interface i/o at 0x1020
audio interface irq 11 
scsi interface i/o at 0x1400 irq 10
eth interface i/0 at 0x1040 irq 5
vga interface i/o at 0x9000 irq 9

I have swapped the eth and scsi around to no avail. I have used from the
command line and as an append(modprobe aic7xxx 'aic7xxx=0x1400,10,7,1').
Without modprobe and the ''s from the append line of course.

If any of you have had any problem like this or can help in any way it
would be greatly appreciated. <not a lie..... 

                                        thanks in advance,
                                                Doug
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Linux version 2.2.6 (root@harmon) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314 (egcs-1.1.2 
release)) #1 SMP Tue Jun 15 19:34:04 EST 1999
mapped APIC to ffffe000 (00256000)
mapped IOAPIC to ffffd000 (00257000)
Detected 331836257 Hz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 330.96 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63048k/65472k available (1008k kernel code, 420k reserved, 928k data, 68k init)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.26 (19981001) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 25.06 usecs.
CPU0: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 00
SMP motherboard not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation.
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9c3
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Enabling memory for device 00:60
PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:70
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
js: Version 1.2.13 using 690 MHz RDTSC timer.
js: no joysticks found
loop: registered device at major 7
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1000-0x1007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1008-0x100f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: Maxtor 90845D4, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Conner Peripherals 850MB - CFA850A, ATA DISK drive
hdc: LTN301, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: no response (status = 0xd0), resetting drive
hdd: CRW6206A, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: Maxtor 90845D4, 8063MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63, UDMA
hdb: Conner Peripherals 850MB - CFA850A, 813MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=826/32/63
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: LITEON    Model: CD-ROM LTN301     Rev: MP08
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
  Vendor: ATAPI     Model: CD-R/RW CRW6206A  Rev: 1.2A
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
scsi : detected 2 SCSI cdroms total.
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 2x/6x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
ne2k-pci.c:v0.99L 2/7/98 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker 
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html
ne2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'Winbond 89C940' at I/O 0x1040, IRQ 5.
eth0: PCI NE2000 found at 0x1040, IRQ 5, 48:54:E8:26:26:B1.
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
 hdb: hdb1
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 68k freed
Adding Swap: 128516k swap-space (priority -1)
diald uses obsolete (PF_INET,SOCK_PACKET)
SLIP: version 0.8.4-NET3.019-NEWTTY-MODULAR (dynamic channels, max=256).
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP: version 2.3.3 (demand dialling)
PPP line discipline registered.
registered device ppp0
PPP BSD Compression module registered
PPP Deflate Compression module registered
scsi : 1 host.


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From: "ToXIc MYsT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (despite my occasional anti-linux post, read this)  was Re: Monitor dies 
while installing Redhat 5.2
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:19:05 GMT

Redhat is by far the easiest OS that I have ever installed.  I can install
a fresh version of redhat in about 15-20 tops.  I haven't tried SuSE but as
far as i'm concerned RedHat is a very easy install.



Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> 
> 
> Xerophyte wrote:
> > 
> > Burn red hat.  Call it fried slop.
> > 
> > I had Red Hat 5.1 (!!!) and had similar problems, except I had what
quickly
> > became more permanent damage after a few uses and I read up on
installation
> > procedures before doing anything.
> > 
> > Go SuSE!  You get a LOT more for the same amount of money and SuSE
doesn't
> > rely on a popular name to sell itself.  I have 5.3 and will be buying
6.1
> > fairly soon, believe it or not.
> > 
> In fact. I've tried to install Redhat since 4.0 on 5 different boxes,
> from old P-133
> to my new dual cpu U2W SCSI server, non would install properly. But with
> SuSE, everything installed smoothly on the 1st run, without even a
> single hiccup.
> 
> And SuSE now costs half as much as Redhat. Even if you buy directly from
> SuSE. (I did)
> 
> I think Redhat will eventually gives Linux a bad rep. Because of all the
> noise that it's making lately, and they're releasing buggy distro to
> flood the market (with 5.2), so they can generate more $ to make their
> book looks good for the IPO not long ago.  Then release a quickie (but
> not thoroughly tested) bug fix (6.0) to fix the problem.
> 
> And due to all the noise it makes. Many newbies (mostly from M$ camp)
> are wanting to try Linux, and many started calling Linux 6.0. As you can
> see from a lot of the help requests here are from newbies who are
> totally clueless with anything about Linux.And many thought Redhat *is*
> Linux.
> 
> If all those newbies are all jumping on the Redhat bandwagon. Linux will
> get a bad rep because of many newbies will be very disappointed about
> Linux, without realizing that Redhat is only on out of a dozen or so
> Linux distributions.
> 
> Yes, Redhat SUX big time. Even FreeBSD is easier to install than Redhat.
> 
> My first ever Linux installation a few years ago (pre ELF) was with
> Slackware. Yes, it took me 30 hours to do it, but everything did
> installed properly.
> 
> Go with SuSE or *BSD.
> 
> Alex Lam.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ***     ***     ***     ***     ***     ***     ***
> Remove all the upper case Xs from my email address if reply by e mail.
> **************************************************
> 

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From: "r.tolga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSe on Asus AMD K6-2 450Mhz 128K system
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:04:57 +0300

Patrick van Beem wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Today, I tried to install the SuSe 6.1 on my new Asus P5a mobo system
> running an AMD K6-2 450Mhz with 1M L2 cache and 128M SDRam. With no succes.
> The system boots OK from the first CD-Rom but then gives a kernal panic and
> halts. Same when I use the boot-disk. Is any part of this hardware not
> supported? Any one any ID? Or running on a similair system?
> 
> The rest of the system consists of:
>  13G Maxtor UDMA HD
>  Hauppauge video digitizer / TV tuner (PCI)
>  Asus V3400-AGP gfx card with TV-out
>  Ne2000 comp. ISA network card
>  Motorola 57k6 internal PCI
>  Soundblaster 64 PCI
>  AOpen 6x DVD
> 
> BTW: W98 is running extremely instable on this machine, BeOS 4.0 runs just
> fine...
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Patrick van Beem
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I use a similar system

8.4 Maxtor UDMA HD
FlyView video digitizer / TV tuner (PCI)
S3 Savage 3D (S3_391) card with TV out
Ne2000 comp. ISA network card
Zoltrix 56K External
Rockwell chips. 33600 ISA modem.
Soundblaster Live Value
Asus P5Ab Mb (CMI8330 disabled form the bios!)
AMD K6/350 oclocked @400 Mhz

Running Win98 and Linux Mandrake 5.3 perfectly.

1. Your problem may because of an unsuccessful o'clocking.
The instable Win98 may be a clue for this.
If the system is over clocked,
try it with the original clocks.

Win 98 system shows any conflicts (io)?

2. Try booting the system by decreasing the peripherals
one by one. DVD may be the first, then other PCI hardware...
Does this solve the problem, concentrate on the problematic
device
for you instability problem...

3. If no success, it may bee a mobo problem...
Instable win98 may be a clue for this also.

By the way i had bought a K6/450 cpu first,
but in the first week i understand that it was 
actually a "remark" !!! Show you CPU to someone who
can understand the difference. Most important clue is
you cannot overclock it because its already done, and 
it wont work with the origianl Asus jumper settings for that
CPU Mhz.

Look at the Asus mb booklet and compare the CPU jumper
settings, bus and 
clock freqs etc. If the problem is this (i hope it is not)
please contact me again via email.
g. luck :-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gateway Telepath for windows with X2
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:36:06 GMT

Hi,

I have a gateway 2000 modem, which is telepath for windows with x2.  I
was wondering if anybody knew of any software that would allow this
modem to work in linux (redhat 6.0).  If you do, please e-mail me or
reply to this post.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I also do not know how to configure my ensoniq audioPCI in linux.  I
keep on getting error messages with sndconfig.  If you know what I
should do or have done this please e-mail me.


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From: Shashank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:45:44 -0500

> You're leaving out a lot of steps in the kernel compilation process here.  As per
> the official documentation, here are the steps for a new kernel install:

Actually,  it _is_ really that simple for any current distro. Even if you're patching-
1. get the patch and unpack it
2. patch < _____
3. make mrproper
4. make dep clean zlilo modules modules_install
5. shutdown -r now

This contrasts to Service Packs (or whatever they are) for Win95, where they are much
easier to apply, almost impossible to undo. Call it a draw.

> > >   4. Once the CD can be accessed, type setup at the prompt. Pray that it does
> > > not crash.
>
> Crashing on setup?  Please....

This happens to me all the time. In fact, I wouldn't even mind re-installing Windows so
often if I wouldn't get freakin BSOD.

> > > My first linux install went like this:
> > >   1. Place CD in drive, turn on.
>
> That works fine as long as your CD-ROM drive is recognized.  Unfortunately, that's a
> rather large "if".  Mine wasn't.

This was a problem in windows for me, actually. There's something stupid with my cdrom
(one of those crappy Plextors) where it specifically doesn't boot off of the Windows 95
cdrom (I have tested this out). In linux- cake. Read a README (inconvenient maybe, but
at least it was there, re my Win95 problems), type rawrite, then the three finger
salute.

> 1)  Find out if your CMOS supports bootable CD-ROMs.
> 2)  Reboot several times wondering why your CMOS says it supports it, but it's not
> happening.

> 3)  Copy your CD onto your hard drive.
> 4)  Run fips to shrink the partition your install files are on so that you can
> install Linux.

I did all this with Windows too! (well, I wish I could have done step 3)

> 10)  Run Disk Druid.  Create the new partitions.  Wait for the new partitions to be
> checked and formatted.

Yep- had to do that for windows (sensitive data was on /dev/hda1)

> 13)  Decide if you want Xconfigurator to probe for a card.
> 13a)  If you let Xconfigurator probe for a card, pray it doesn't hang.
> 13b)  If you choose not to let Xconfigurator probe for a card, I hope you have your
> memory and chipset information handy.
> 14)  Accept the default settings.  Hope that your display is ok from the default.
> 14a)  If not, repeat steps 12 -14.
> 14b)  If everything's ok, reboot.
>

Yep- same for me in Windows 95.

So, by my count, I think about four steps you had in Linux I did not have with Windows.
And I had watermelon sized problems with my three serial devices in Windows that I
hadn't batted an eyelash about in Linux. I have no desire to jump down your throat 
about
Linux>Win95, but you have to admit, Linux is definately getting there. Very nearly a
draw.

> I've heard horror stories like this, and I can't help thinking there's just a little
> bit of hyperbole involved.  First of all, I've talked to many people who never have
> a problem Win 98.  And I do mean *never*.  I had some problems with 95, and that's
> why I dumped it, but I've heard (even from the Linux guru who convinced me to
> install Linux on my machine) that 98 is relatively stable.  As far as doing a
> complete reinstall, I only did a *complete* reinstall once or twice in 95.  Most of
> the time, the fixes I did were more along the lines of installing 95 over itself to
> fix something that broke.

This is very different from my experiences 'sys-admining' in two research labs. Our
reinstall rate was about one installation every three months or so (four machines- two
gave problems every time, two were as simple as inserting the CD). These were abused by
a lot of people of differing ability. Liunx was a godsend- permissions, baby.

> Netscape crashing once or twice a day is still a little much, don't you think?
> (Although I have noticed a problem with Netscape for Linux and certain pages.  In
> Windows, I would simply get an error if a page wasn't coded right.  In Linux, if
> Netscape comes across a page it doesn't like, it just shuts down.)

I'll agree with this, actually. But Netscape has never caused neither X nor the kernel
to hang. My Netscape (4.07 I think) takes Windows down once or twice a week (I've been
running for two weeks now). Draw.

> The only qualm I have with Linux apps in general is that they are sometimes
> difficult to install.  As far as the pricing goes, you can't beat it, but you suffer
> in terms of support, because the people writing the programs have nothing at stake
> if you can't get it to work.  I think what needs to happen is the big companies need
> to release low-cost versions of their software for Linux.  That way there's a big
> support system with some stake in actually pleasing the customer.

This is somewhat of a misnomer. Their is a big Windows support network if you have 
money
to give them (Microsoft has personally told me regarding our computers that we would be
best getting a service contract). I have only gotten support for Windows when I lie to
some company like Gateway. But there is much more help available for the little guy in
Linux. Documentation abounds. USENET. etc. Score depends on who you are.

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From: Brad Hickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 mice on SuSE 6.1
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:52:28 -0400

I'm trying to install 2 mice on my friend's system.  Any suggestions on
how to do it?  Thanks  
Chip Leinen
Linux Newbie

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Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.inux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
From: Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendation needed for Tape Backup drive
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:41:51 GMT

Just curious to know what you did to make this drive work.  I have
exactly the same drive and could not get it to work with Redhat
5.2/6.0.  The same machine works fine with a DDS-2 DAT on both
versions of Redhat and the DDS-3 12/24 drive works on the same
hardware if I boot up NT.  The drive is properly recognized and
I can convince it to do things like rewind and eject tapes, but
reading or writing to the tape causes the drive to hang.

Regards,

Chris

In comp.os.linux.hardware Brian D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to agree on the DAT tape.  I'm using a SEAGATE 12GB/24GB tape drive
> with my Redhat Linux system without a problem.  I've also had good luck with
> Seagate's (SCSI) Travan-4 tape drive (4/8GB capacity), which is a lot more
> economic that the DDS-3 drives.  Those old archive drives just seem a bit
> small to be practicle.

> Juergen Heinzl wrote:

>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Clarence Riddle wrote:
>> >I use old SCSI archive 150 and 525 meg internal drives with tar. Works
>> >great and is cheap at flea markets.
>> [...]
>> >> I'm using a Tecmar (Wangdat) 3400 and tar.  Works for me.
>> [...]
>>
>> Guess I'd not go for a frive from the flea market, a DAT drive here. In
>> general ... DAT :: drives are more expensive, tapes are cheaper. QIC ::
>> drives are cheaper, tapes are more expensive. QIC is considered to be
>> more robust, at least if it is not some noname thingy, but at work I'd
>> two DAT's (one Linux, one a HP) and until I left they never caused me
>> trouble (5 - 7 backups a week).
>> [...]
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Juergen
>>
>> --
>> \ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
>>  \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /


-- 
Christopher Mauritz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Hayden Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with SAMBA pwds
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:46:12 +1300

..Luca T.. wrote:
> Now i used the same names, the same group of my linux users and i also
> synchronized the smb and linux passwords.

This problem is usually to do with plain text passwords.  Samba can only
use plain text passwords and this is the default on Win95/3.X.  Win98
and NT by default use some sort of encryption which last time I checked
Samba could not work with.

The Fix: There are two .inf files on the Win98 CD called something like
"plain text on" and "plain text off"  If you browse the CD theres a
Readme file which tells you all about them.  Anyway just right click on
the one which sets plain text on and select install.

Not sure of the fix for NT but it can be found at support.microsoft.com
as can a better explanation of the 98 fix I outlined above.

Hayden

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