Linux-Hardware Digest #339, Volume #12           Fri, 25 Feb 00 04:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: LILO wont boot Windows on Ultra 66 Drive SOLVED ("S. Park")
  Re: Tyan 1854S motherboard..is it good (Michael Hofmann)
  IDE tuning (Mike Castle)
  Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP! (Igor)
  Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP! (Igor)
  Re: IDE tuning ("Jim Mortimer")
  Re: ISA PnP Modem I/O port problems ("Jim Mortimer")
  Cmedia sound card help needed ("Marius")
  Re: Best Distribution for Laptop (robert w hall)
  2 days on cdrw, still nothing - please help (Tom Manning)
  sound stuttering (Marian Heddesheimer)
  Hardware detection and testing (Alex Borghgraef)
  Re: Hardware problems. (Werner Hein)
  XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset ("Mees Mehepoeg")
  Re: HP 710 (KC)

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From: "S. Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LILO wont boot Windows on Ultra 66 Drive SOLVED
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:16:17 GMT

Richie wrote:
> 
> Did you have to make your ultra 66 drive the primary, or you were able
> to do it by changing some BIOS settings?
> How do I install lilo on the windows MBR?
> 
> In article <88c0ii$t2l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Mark Gilzenrat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who responded!!! As several of you noted, the
> > <clipped>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Set the drive with Windows as Master (or primary), install Linux in
other drive, and follow the instruction of the installation on LILO. It
will ask where to put, and choose at MBR of primary.
Cheers.

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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tyan 1854S motherboard..is it good
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:27:30 +0100

Chetan Ahuja wrote:
>    I would welcome any suggestions/advice etc on this topic. Is the
>  Tyan board OK. If not.. why. Any personal experiences. Any other
>  recommended boards satisfying the above criteria...

Just a thought.... I don't know this particular board but, if it's ATX
_and_ has an Award BIOS, stay away from it. The Award BIOS is broken and
doesn't poweroff at shutdown. TYAN also doesn't answer my emails
regarding this issue. I'm using the S1590S board. No more TYAN for me.

Michael

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Castle)
Subject: IDE tuning
Date: 24 Feb 2000 23:17:57 -0700


First, I don't use distributions.  Everything is built by me.

I have a Spacewalker Hot-557 v1.5 motherboard which claims to be using the
Intel 82430VX chipset (82437Ve, 82438VX, 82371SB).  It also claims the
following specs:

PIO Mode 4, DMA Mode 2 transfers up to 22 MB/sec

Currently using a P5-120 with 80MB ram.

Running 2.2.14 with Unified IDE patches.

I have to following 4 hardrives installed:

hda: Maxtor 82560A4, 2442MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=620/128/63, DMA
hdb: Maxtor 91303D6, 12427MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=25249/16/63, (U)DMA
hdc: IBM-DAQA-33240, 3098MB w/96kB Cache, CHS=6296/16/63, DMA
hdd: Maxtor 92048U8, 19470MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=39560/16/63, (U)DMA

Now, prior to installing the Unified patches the other day, I was getting
the following xfer rates according to hdparm (2.6).

hda: 6.5
hdb: 6.6
hdc: 5.9
hdd: 5.5

No amount of tweaking with hdparm sped anything up.

(Truth to tell, I was getting about half of that, forgetting I'd set PIO
mode to 0 in the BIOS sometime in the past).

Now, with the IDE patch, I get:

hda: 8.3
hdb: 8.5
hdc: 6.5
hdd: 5.6

Ok, so the first two got a big speed up, but what is up with hdd?  And it's
the newest drive!

Now, I suspect it has something to do with hanging it on the same
controller as the old IBM (either something about that drive, it's age, or
just because it's a different vendor).

But, before I go moving things around (cables are a pain to get to, not to
mention /etc/fstab), I thought I'd ask a few questions first.

Given the following hdparm -iv output, anything flaky in the combinations (I
assume the * next to mword2 means that's the current mode, though I haven't
seen that explicitly stated in the hdparm manual).  


unt    =  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr       =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 620/128/63, sectors = 5001728, start = 0

 Model=Maxtor 82560A4, FwRev=AA8Z2726, SerialNo=C40JRRRA
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=4962/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=20
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=256kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=2
 CurCHS=4962/16/63, CurSects=5001696, LBA=yes, LBAsects=5001728
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 *mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 


/dev/hdb:
 multcount    =  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr       =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 25249/16/63, sectors = 25450992, start = 0

 Model=Maxtor 91303D6, FwRev=GAS54112, SerialNo=A609WPDC
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=29
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=512kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=2
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=25450992
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 *mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 mode2 


/dev/hdc:
 multcount    =  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr       =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 6296/16/63, sectors = 6346368, start = 0

 Model=IBM-DAQA-33240, FwRev=R6ORA52A, SerialNo=1Y51YFJ5852
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
 RawCHS=6296/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=22
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=96kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=2
 CurCHS=6296/16/63, CurSects=6346368, LBA=yes, LBAsects=6346368
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: sword0 sword1 sword2 mword0 mword1 *mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 


/dev/hdd:
 multcount    =  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr       =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    =  8 (on)
 geometry     = 39560/16/63, sectors = 39876480, start = 0

 Model=Maxtor 92048U8, FwRev=VA510PF0, SerialNo=W805Y9LA
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
 DblWordIO=no, OldPIO=2, DMA=yes, OldDMA=0
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39876480
 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 *mword2 
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 mode2 mode3 mode4 


Now, also consider the following boot messages:

PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb000
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
PIIX3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later  
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio


The "not 100% native mode" has me concerned.  The code says "can we trust
the IRQs?"; what exactly causes this?  Should it concern me?  Anything to
do with plug-and-play (currently turned off)?

Second, is all the "pio" bios settings.  Now my BIOS, AFAICT, only has the
ability to set PIO modes 0-4 and auto.  Nothing about DMA.  And although
they say pio there, the hdparm output above, just after boot, shows
using_dma = 1.

What's my next step?  If I need to rearrange drives, I can do that.  I just
don't want to change anything until I know it will do me any good.  If
having the IBM in there is causing me problems, I can always buy another
20+G Maxtor to throw in there.

Oh, and what in the hell does IORDY stand for?

mrc

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From: Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:46:44 -0800



> Peter Tselios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Silly question, Why the ZIP-miniHT does not says that you have to set the
> >BIOS Settings to EPP or SPP?
>
> No clue again (helpful, what?)  Why not take it up with the maintainer of
> the HT?  Only takes a minute, and it may save folks like you much grief in
> the future.
>
> Dave Tan

This comment IS in the mini-HOWTO. Please check by yourself here

http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive.html

snippet from the mini-HOWTO v2.6  file published on  11 December 1999 :
http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive-4.html#ss4.1

Bios settings for Parallel ports can be a problem on some systems.
This does not happen very often.
If you get the message "init_module: Device or resource busy"
during modprobe and everything else looks OK try looking at the BIOS settings.
If yours has an option about parallel port controlled by OS then change
it to enabled. If you have any options about type of parallel port then try EPP.
This combination has worked the best on my machine.


--
Nothing is impossible as long you are not doing it by yourself.




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From: Igor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP BIG problem! PLEASE HELP!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:52:48 -0800



> Peter Tselios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Silly question, Why the ZIP-miniHT does not says that you have to set the
> >BIOS Settings to EPP or SPP?
>
> No clue again (helpful, what?)  Why not take it up with the maintainer of
> the HT?  Only takes a minute, and it may save folks like you much grief in
> the future.
>
> Dave Tan

This comment IS in the mini-HOWTO. Please check by yourself here

http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive.html

snippet from the mini-HOWTO v2.6  file published on  11 December 1999 :
http://members.home.net/dansie/zip-drive-4.html#ss4.1

Bios settings for Parallel ports can be a problem on some systems.
This does not happen very often.
If you get the message "init_module: Device or resource busy"
during modprobe and everything else looks OK try looking at the BIOS settings.
If yours has an option about parallel port controlled by OS then change
it to enabled. If you have any options about type of parallel port then try EPP.
This combination has worked the best on my machine.


--
Nothing is impossible as long you are not doing it by yourself.




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From: "Jim Mortimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE tuning
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:33:26 -0000

I believe that if you put a drive that operates at, say PIO mode 2 and a
drive that operates at PIO mode 4 on the same ide bus then both drives
operate at PIO mode 2.

Its just a hardware limitation of the IDE bus I'm afraid.



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From: "Jim Mortimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISA PnP Modem I/O port problems
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:42:32 -0000

Try replacing the words "FATAL" in /etc/isapnp.conf with "WARNING"



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From: "Marius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cmedia sound card help needed
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:54:45 +0200

Hi Everyone.

I have a Mobo with an onboard Crystal media sound chip (i forget the chip
version). It is capable of running in sb mode and the setup program in RH5.1
finds the sound chip easily. However it has trouble with the irq, it cannot
correctly identify what the irq is. My BIOS is pnp and after i set the
"pnp-aware os" setting to "NO" it assigned IRQ11 to the sound. I then
manually edited the relevant conf file to look for IQR 11.

However on reboot the message "SB found on 220h, IRQ 11 is not possible"
appears. Funny. I dual boot with WinNT and NT uses IRQ 11 for sound just
fine. Is there something i should know about the way Linux handles IRQ's or
is the sound on NT due to magic?

Any help greatly appreciated.
Me



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From: robert w hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best Distribution for Laptop
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:17:08 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William H. Asquith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I had very little trouble installing RH6.1 on a Dell Latitude CPi within the
>last two weeks.  The fancy graphical installed froze at the end 7 out of 8
>times, but the text based installer worked great.  From my experience with dual
>boots etc, I would recommend that you have more hard disk available.  RH
>installed 579MB (for KDE desktop and all 'workstation' apps).   Can you put 
>more
>memory in?
>
>Good luck,
>-wha
>
>Kachi Armony wrote:
>

Nah - use slack! - in expert mode, gives you the control you need over
what you install - and if you've only got 450Mb available, consider
installing Slack4 not Slack7, (which would use most of that).
Bob


>> Hi. I have a NEC 2700 series laptop (P133, 32MB RAM, 2.1GB HD, CDROM, Modem,
>> PCMCIA Ethernet, etc).
>> I will like to know what the best distribution for laptops would be. I have
>> a 450MB partition ready for Linux to be installed (dual boot with WIN95).
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I
>> guess my main use for Linux will be Development (C++, Java, and others - I'm
>> a CS student). I won't need any fancy apps. If everything (hardware) works
>> fine, I may eventually reformat and have my entire drive for Linux only (and
>> get rid of Windoze). Please advise.
>>
>> Kachi
>

-- 
robert w hall

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From: Tom Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 days on cdrw, still nothing - please help
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:22:16 -0800

Please help me with this, I've really been working on it for quite a
while!

I've spent just over two days trying to get my HP 8200 CDRW working in
linux, still can't do it. Running RH6.1, with an HP CDRW (hdd) and a
creative labs 24x cdrom (hdb), both atapi ide drives.  I read the
howtos. I went to kernel.org, figured if I was going to learn to compile
a kernel with scsi-general support I might as well get the latest stable
one (2.2.14).

Compiled the kernel numerous times before I finally got all the option
working properly. And I KNOW I compiled the generic "sg" scsi driver in,
sometimes as a module, sometimes right into the kernel. Yet every time
I try to start xcdroast, it tells me that  scsi support is not built in.
Latest build didn't compile in any atapi cdrom support, just scsi, but
it still won't work!

At bootup, linux finds both my cdrom drives. xcdroast only sees the
writer, as an ide drive. (or sometimes only the other drive, depending
on how I compiled in options I guess. I've tried this numerous times).

my dmesg now gives me the following (edited to remove unnecessary
lines):

hdb: MATSHITA CR-587, ATAPI CDROM DRIVE
hdd: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8200, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hdb: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
hdd: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RQ drive, 2048kB Cache
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
scsi : detected total.
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide0(3,64) <repeated several dozen
times>
cdrom: open failed. <repeated only twice>

PLEASE can someone shed some light on this?? I've been doing everything
right, as far as I know, and this is a last resort :(

Thanks,

Tom


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From: Marian Heddesheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound stuttering
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:40:01 +0100

Hello,

I am using an Athlon 500 with Kernel 2.2.13 (compiled with sound
support for terratec Solo 1) which works fine for KDE system sounds and
playing sound from the console (with copying wav to /dev/audio).

If I use the KDE Media player, i get the following effect: Sound starts
for 0.5 seconds, then stops for 0.5 seconds, then plays o.k until end.
If I play the sound twice without pause, the second time it ist o.k.

The same happens if i configure sounds for some applications but it
seems that not every wav file will be affected. Some plays ok, some are
stuttering.

Can anybody give me a hint how to solve this problem.

-- 
===================================================================
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   programmer and book author 
http://members.aol.com/heddesheim        pages on effective working
===================================================================

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From: Alex Borghgraef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware detection and testing
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:44:09 GMT

 Silly newbie question here: I'm installing a new network-card in my
PC at home, but I'm having trouble finding the correct io number.
Now I know a few ways to solve this problem, but all of them are
cumbersome and time-consuming. There's the trial-and-error method,
and then there's the 'see what it does in windows'-method. The first
is really time consuming, the latter is a total pain in the ass (PnP
isn't :-). Isn't there a way in linux to find out what io-number a
device is on?
 Another thing regarding this problem is testing the device: after
setting an io for it, how do you test if it works. Rebooting is one
way, but I doubt it is the only one. Unfortunately, I don't have a
clue what other (faster) way there is. Can anyone enlighten me?

P.S. I'm using SuSE 6.2

--
Alex


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Werner Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware problems.
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:45:20 +0100

Hi Jake,
Your questions are a little bit too unspecific!

Is your modem an internal or external one,
how do you want to use it:
 ppp-link to your ISP? then read the very handy PPP-HOWTO and also have
a look into the ISP-HOWTO!!!
 ...

also Soundblaster is a not sufficient term: (SB16 ... SB128, .... SBLive
???)
 so you should have a deeper look into the SOUND- and
Sound-Playing-Howto

for your view-region problem
 have a look into the XF86Config file - you should find it in the
directory /etc/X11
your problem is that your virtual resolution setting is bigger than your
default
 screen resolution.
either
 you have already a nondefault screen resolution setting that is as big
as the virtual one
 -> then make it the default setting
 -> or you switch to this setting after X-Server startup by pressing
<Ctrl> <Alt> <+> or <Ctrl> <Alt> <-> (maybe several times)
or
 you have to establish such a setting (that could be the harder way)
 you reduce or remove the virtual resolution setting (that's the simple
way)

in addition read the XFree86-HOWTO

all these HOWTOs are at least located at http://linuxdoc.org/ (or at one
of its mirrors)

best regards

Werner

=====================================================
Infineon technologies
Werner Hein                   Firmware Cellular Radio
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +49-89-234-82104         Fax: +49-89-234-81066
P.O.Box 80 09 49
81609 Munich/Germany
=====================================================

Jake wrote:
> 
>    First, I would like to thank everyone who helped me with the ADA66
> controller problem.  I got it working, thank you.
> 
>     Now, I got RedHat Linux 6.1 installed.  How do I get my US Robotics
> 56K modem working?  How do I get my SoundBlaster working?  Also, I can't
> get the entire viewable area of the screen to fit inside the boundaries
> of the monitor, in other words, the screen is bigger than the monitor.
> When I want to see certain parts of the screen, I have to move the mouse
> to the top, bottom, left, or right, and then the screen shifts in that
> direction.  How do I get it all to fit on the screen?  Any suggestions
> would be helpful.  Thank you ...

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From: "Mees Mehepoeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: XFree86 with Intel i810 chipset
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:25:27 +0200

HELP

I have RPMs for intel and graphic works fine
but sound not. Sndconfig found card but not
seting work. Some problem with modem.




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From: KC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP 710
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 03:09:45 -0600

Costas wrote:
> 
> Can anyone help me print with the HP 710 printer?
> I have Suse 6.2 linux with the 2.2.14 kernel
> During boot the printer is recognized correctly and I have an lp device
> under /proc/devices.
> How do I print then?
> Thank you very much!

You have a WinPrinter. There is hope though, and the solution works
quite well.

There are drivers available here:
(first site id the home for the original pbm2ppa b/w only driver, and
has archives of the user/developer mailing lists, and the second is the
development site for pnm2ppa, the color version, as well as pbm2ppa)
http://www.httptech.com/ppa/
http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=1322

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