Linux-Hardware Digest #450, Volume #12 Fri, 10 Mar 00 12:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: problem with gcc...urgent ! ("f.g.a.m.wouters")
Re: Hot Swapping a floppy drive? ("Tjousk")
HUB question (Paul Ashby)
Re: /dev/sequencer: not found? (Laura Conrad)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (chrisv)
Re: problem with gcc...urgent ! (jerry)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("Folkert Rienstra")
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("Folkert Rienstra")
Re: is it true that all external modems are not winmodems? (Dances With Crows)
booted RedHat installer on iBook (Craig Steffen)
Re: rw cd rom (Dances With Crows)
Re: AMD K6-2 or K6-3 (PriMe--)
PCI bus information ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Modem driver ("MegaBolt")
Help on modem setup in mandrake 7.0 (PriMe--)
Floppy drive sloooooooooooooooooow (Jeff Shipman)
Re: HUB question ("Juha Lindstr�m")
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From: "f.g.a.m.wouters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with gcc...urgent !
Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:03:37 GMT
fatjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in artikel
<8a7et9$rek$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded the latest driver for my NIC from manuifacturer website. It
> said user have to use gcc to complie the driver then add the driver to
> kernel. After compling, then i ran "insmod xxx" (where xxx is the name of
I think you can ad an extra option to the insmod something like -f to force
the insmod without taking notice of the kernel-version.
Tak a look at the manpages.
Frans Wouters
> the complied driver and it is part of the instruction). However, an error
> message said the version that i complied is for kernel 2.0.36, and the
> version of kernel that i am using now is 2.2.12 with CorelLinux 1.0. It
> pisses me off........>(
>
> need help......plz
>
> yours,
>
> fatjack
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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From: "Tjousk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hot Swapping a floppy drive?
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:36:57 +1000
Yeah, That is true.... Unless of course you have the spare money around to
replace all ya parts if it accidentally turns on..... I doubt there are
many people that can say they do.....
For those that don't know, The power switch on an ATX computer is just a
little SPST %Volt momentary contact switch that is connected to the
motherboard, and therefore, for it to work, there must always be some sort
of power going to the motherboard even when the system is turned off....
With most ATX Power supply's you can tell that they are outputting power as
soon as they are plugged in by watching any fan that happens to be connected
when you plug it in (Or switch the switch that is on the P/S if it has one).
The fans will 'twitch' right when the power is connected.
Being as power is always conned to the main board, it should be considered
unsafe to try adding or removing any hardware while the power is
connected...
Hrmmm, I am now wondering if anyone that doesn't already know this will
actually be reading it....
Tjousk
Rolf Magnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8aade4$r12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tjousk wrote...
>
> >I have hot-swapped many parts, sometimes even hard disks. But I wouldn't
> >recommend it. And as for un-plugging the power cable, I never do, and I
> >have never had any problems.... As the power cable is connected to a
> >grounded power outlet, The PC is grounded while the cable is plugged in,
> and
> >I am therefore grounded whenever I am touching a metal part of the
case....
>
> But if you have e.g. an ATX power supply, you MUST switch it off if it has
a
> real power switch. The normal power button at the front of your computer
is
> NOT sufficient.
>
> Rolf Magnus
>
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From: Paul Ashby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: HUB question
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:35:21 +0000
I have 6 linux machines on a 100MBit ethernet LAN.
To connect them I am using 2 class 2 hubs, the model
is a D-link DFE-904. I now need to add another
machine but the two hubs I have can only support
six machines, and you cannot use more than 2 of these
hubs in combination according to the manuals.
What would be my best strategy as I expand the
network? Which hubs to you recommend? What
are the differences between class 2 hubs and other
hubs. I know very little about this subject.
Ideally I want some very robust and fast hubs
that can be easily expanded.
Thanks for any advice!
--
Paul Ashby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
0973 353 692
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /dev/sequencer: not found?
From: Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:47:11 -0500
>>>>> "Chaotic" == Chaotic Thought <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chaotic> After that, sound works just fine but only PCM. Trying to
Chaotic> play a midi file using the playmidi utility gives the
Chaotic> error "/dev/sequencer: not found" or something
Chaotic> similar.
I have a similar problem with a different setup, and rather than beat
my head against it, I just use timidity instead of playmidi. It
sounds better, anyway.
I think timidity isn't really using the MIDI on the soundcard, it's
converting the MIDI information to sound information using the cpu.
--
Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ )
(617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574
233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139
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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:58:48 -0600
On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:49:31 GMT, "Ron Reaugh"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>John Howland wrote in message <_iyx4.425$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> I run across him on a regular basis... my concern is someone who doesn't
>know better may actually
>>believe him.
>
>
>And be fortunate that they do.
LOL! What a bizarre little world you live in. Only clueless newbies,
who don't know about you, might be swayed by your BS. However, it
doesn't take long for most people to figure out that you're a
feeble-minded troll.
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From: jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: problem with gcc...urgent !
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:30:16 GMT
fatjack wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded the latest driver for my NIC from manuifacturer website. It
> said user have to use gcc to complie the driver then add the driver to
> kernel. After compling, then i ran "insmod xxx" (where xxx is the name of
> the complied driver and it is part of the instruction). However, an error
> message said the version that i complied is for kernel 2.0.36, and the
> version of kernel that i am using now is 2.2.12 with CorelLinux 1.0. It
> pisses me off........>(
>
> need help......plz
>
> yours,
>
> fatjack
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
I seem to recall reading just a few days ago that you can't compile
a patch if the version numbers are more than one number off. In other words
if you have version 2.2.12 ,you can only recompile with with code of
version 2.2.11 or 2.2.12
Hope this helps
jerry
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Folkert Rienstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:15:42 +0100
"Karl Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|
|
| "Keith R. Williams" wrote:
|
| > Forget it Paul. Ron picked on the wrong person in this group.
| > Deano is fair game, but he doesn't sell anymore. Hmmm.
| >
| > It must be lonely over on .storage for Ron to pick fights on
| > chips. BTW, my favorite tommie is making an ass outof himself
| > over there too. Too bad I don' thave time to chase.
| >
| > Anyway, I will stand 100% behind John Howland's reputation. I've
| > never met the man, but have done business with him. I was very
| > pleasantly surprised at the service I recieved (he went out of
| > his way finding what I wanted). Yes, I paid a small premium
| > dealing with a 7.0 on the Richter (err, pricewatch - sorry bad
| > vibes for those on the left coast eh? ;-) scale.
| >
| > ----
| > Keith
|
| Lately I just just lurk/scan the group but I have to jump in with Keith
| on this one......
|
| A couple of years ago, just before Christmas I got two bad ABIT PN5
| M/B's in a row from a mail order so I called John Howland on 12/23/98.
| He didn't sell ABIT but one of his suppliers had ASUS SP97-V's in stock
| (which he didn't sell). He got one and I drove over on Christmas Eve and
| picked it up. By Christmas morning the gift was assembled and
| working...... We were both in a hurry so I didn't get a chance to really
| meet him but I will say "nice Chrismas tree and beautiful family" and
| great service.
|
| John charges a little extra on the purchase but provides better value by
| working with you on the order and answering your questions after the
| sale..
|
| I've always respected Dean in the N/G's (one of the few that has a grip
| on the market... both from a consumer and supplier view) but haven't
| had the opportunity to meet or do biz with him. Give him a few years and
| he will be posting from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-)
|
| Seen Ron in alot of the N/G's. He gets the same respect here as he gets
| elsewhere.... Give him a few years and he will be posting from
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-)
ROTFLOL!!!
| regards,
| karl
|
|
|
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From: "Folkert Rienstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:16:05 +0100
"Paul Tiseo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| In article <C8wx4.404$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
| > Gee Ron, I use VIA based MoBo's & have no IDE problems - what am I doing wrong?
| > Same with my customers.... who buy more VIA based MoBo's then Intel?
| >
| > Now you can quote post (actually you didn't even do that - you just told us
|where we
| > MIGHT find some data) all day long... most will be from users have caused their
|own
| > problems. Can you post your own personal data - like Dean & I can??
|
| Whatever you do, John, DON'T GET SUCKERED IN BY RON!!! He lives in
| *.hardware.storage and he and a few others engage in lengthy, pointless,
| name-calling threads in SCSI vs. IDE wars. The participants are all
| very, very stubborn and probably enjoy causing this sort of pointless
| mischief. It's endless. Plenty of references to "blindness" and
| "stalking" from both sides, ad nauseum. Sickening, really. All over HDs,
| for pete's sake...
|
| I left that group because of it.
| Half of the time, Ron is baited
What??? Now it is our fault? Hey, watch it!
| and he easily and quickly takes the bait and starts flinging insults.
| The other half, he's wrong and bullheadedly refuses to acknowledge it.
| Visit the group in Deja, and you'll quickly get an idea why I
| unsubscribed...
|
| Just move on to another thread...
|
| --
| ____________________________________________________
| Paul Tiseo, Intermediate Systems Programmer
| Birdsall 3, Mayo Clinic Jacksonville
| 4500 San Pablo Rd, FL, 32224
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (904) 953-8254
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:55:27 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:06:36 +0200, plato <<38c8bd29.0@news>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
External modems that plug into the serial port are 99% likely to work. I
have heard one or 2 reports of certain serial-port modems not working
under anything but WinXX, but I can't confirm them.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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From: Craig Steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: booted RedHat installer on iBook
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:00:45 -0500
Greetings:
I have been trying to boot Linux on my new Macintosh iBook for the last
couple of days, and with timely help from Ben Herrenchmidt (thanks
Ben!), have finally had success. I did a bunch of searching on this
email list yesterday, but there was no message that I could find with
anyone giving specifics their iBook installation.
It's a new iBook; 300 MHz CPU, 6 GB hard drive, and 64 MB of RAM.
I used yaboot version 0.4. A friend built yaboot 0.5 for me, but we
couldn't get it to do anything. I got the yaboot 0.4 image from someone
who had set up a zip disk full of files to boot a powermac to. I can't
find the url again, but but here's my binary image:
http://php.indiana.edu/~crsteffe/linux/yaboot_0.4
I got a ramdisk image from the local ppc Linux mirror, under powerpc
disks; it's called ramdisk.image.gz
The kernel I'm using is the one from Ben's web site:
http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/vmlinux.benh.15.gz
(It must be decompressed to work. Mac Gzip will NOT decompress it. I
decompressed it on irix, then Fetched it to the iBook.)
Ok, the recipe: On my MacOS hard drive root directory, I have the
following files:
ramdisk.image.gz
vmlinux.benh.15
yaboot_0.4
yaboot.conf
yaboot.conf is a text file. My current one, that boots, has the
following contents:
===========begin yaboot.conf=============
image=hd:vmlinux.benh.15
label=install
initrd=hd:ramdisk.image.gz
initrd-size=8192
novideo
===========end yaboot.conf===============
With this all in place, I reboot the machine into Open Firmware (hold
down option-apple-f-o while the machine boots). This give me a prompt
like:
0 >
At the prompt, I type
boot hd:yaboot_0.4
This has a brief welcome message, ending in:
boot:
I just hit enter at the prompt. There's a message about "Loading
kernel..." , then another one about "Loading ramdisk....". Then it
boots into the
"PowerPC Reference Release". That was just this morning, so I haven't
actually installed anything yet.
Please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any questions about
details. I hope this information is useful.
Sincerely,
Craig Steffen
--
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Craig P. Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
home#:812-323-0756 work#:812-855-2317
http://php.indiana.edu/~crsteffe
current goal: run Linux on all my computers
career goal: to be the first Vorlon Time Lord
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: rw cd rom
Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:02:18 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:18:53 +0200, protoscs <<38c8e228.0@news>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>does ne one know of a s/w for RW cdroms for linux i can lay my hands on
You must not have been looking very hard for anything. I don't know quite
what you mean by "software for CD-RWs", but Linux users usually use the
cdrecord/mkisofs utilities to burn CDs. There are graphical frontends to
these utilities available as well; popular ones include Xcdroast and
CDRtoaster. Go to http://www.freshmeat.net and search for "cdrecord". If
you haven't already, read the CD-Writing HOWTO at
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html before you begin to
muck around. There are pitfalls and that document tells you how to avoid
them.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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From: PriMe-- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 or K6-3
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:32:27 -0500
Hi,
I just upgraded from K6-2 300 to a K6-2 500, my system seems more stable.
There is a noticeable speed increase.
Lien-Fei Chu wrote:
> I need some advice.
>
> I am considering upgrading my current K6-2 300 to K6-2 500 or K6-3 450.
> I am not sure which one would give me a better performance...
> One other thing.. How can I check if the build in cache (CPU and
> motherboard) being used?
>
> Thanks for any help in advance!
>
> Alex.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: hp.os.linux
Subject: PCI bus information
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:05:40 -0500
If I look at the data in /proc/pci and the output from lspci, the
information seems to be different. The last two lines of the output from
lspci, shown below, show two CardBus bridges at 0.12.0 and 0.12.1. The
last two items in the output of 'cat /proc/pci', also shown below, shows
the same two CardBus bridges at 0.18.0 and 0.18.1.
Why the difference?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Output from lspci:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge
(AGP disabled) (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160
[MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01)
00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI-1250 (rev 02)
00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI-1250 (rev 02)
00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:12.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI-1220 (rev 02)
00:12.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI-1220 (rev 02)
Output from ' cat /proc/pci':
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel 440BX - 82443BX Host (no AGP) (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x0 [0x8].
Bus 0, device 2, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: Neomagic MagicGraph NM2160 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable.
Latency=128. Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=255.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfd000000 [0xfd000008].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfea00000 [0xfea00000].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfed00000 [0xfed00000].
Bus 0, device 4, function 0:
CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=192.Max
Lat=7.
Bus 0, device 4, function 1:
CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=192.Max
Lat=7.
Bus 0, device 7, function 0:
Bridge: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No
bursts.
Bus 0, device 7, function 1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable.
Latency=64.
I/O at 0xfcf0 [0xfcf1].
Bus 0, device 7, function 2:
USB Controller: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master
Capable. Latency=64.
I/O at 0xfcc0 [0xfcc1].
Bus 0, device 7, function 3:
Bridge: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable.
Bus 0, device 18, function 0:
CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments Unknown device (rev 2).
Vendor id=104c. Device id=ac17.
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=192.Max
Lat=7.
Bus 0, device 18, function 1:
CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments Unknown device (rev 2).
Vendor id=104c. Device id=ac17.
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=192.Max
Lat=7.
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From: "MegaBolt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Modem driver
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:40:48 -0800
They don't seem to have a linux driver yet. But do you need one????
Something generic doesn't work?
http://www.tnclabs.com/download2.htm
Chan Kwun Hok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Where can I find the TNC Merz modem driver for Linux?
>
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From: PriMe-- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help on modem setup in mandrake 7.0
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:41:29 -0500
Hi,
56K Voice Data Modem as installed by windows - ISA
my modem is detected by Mandrake.
It seem it is not respoding to commands from OS though.
It stops at 'initializing..' stage.
Same problem when I use HSP micromodem 56 - PCI
How do you know if this is a winmodem?
Manufacturer unknown.
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From: Jeff Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Floppy drive sloooooooooooooooooow
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:50:13 -0700
I mainly run my computer in Linux, but I also have
Win98 on it. In Windows, the floppy drive seems to
work great, but when in linux, it is really slow. This
is most apparent when trying to load ramdisk or mount
off of a boot floppy. It takes a -very- long time. I've
heard that it could be a possible hardware conflict, but
my floppy has its own connection right to the motherboard.
My computer company has sent me a new floppy drive, but
that doesn't seem to do anything. Does anybody have any
ideas for how I could fix this or at least probe my
system further for what could be going on?
Thanks in advance,
+-----------------------------------------------------+
| Jeff "Shippy" Shipman E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Computer Science Major ICQ: 1786493 |
| New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology |
| Homepage: http://www.nmt.edu/~shippy |
+-----------------------------------------------------+
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From: "Juha Lindstr�m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HUB question
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:06:23 +0200
>
> Ideally I want some very robust and fast hubs
> that can be easily expanded.
>
So u really don't want HUBs in this case, u want Switches... buy a couple of
good Cisco Switches and your network will be faster and much more
expandable. and u can use those 2 hubs still with the swithces, but put them
on different ports in it. The best part in Switches is, that they don't
mirror all the traffic to all ports. The deliver the packages to only the
desired port, that significantly reduces traffic in the network and thus
makes it lot faster. And it's good for security issues too.
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