Linux-Hardware Digest #450, Volume #13           Sun, 20 Aug 00 06:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1? (sfcybear)
  Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: Video Card Suggestion for RH6.2 (James Richard Tyrer)
  Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: linksys question... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Installing 2nd hard disk ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Installing 2nd hard disk ("Hiawatha Bray")
  Re: Installing 2nd hard disk ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Problem Compiling driver for NIC. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: sangoma.com wanpipe (Benjamin Grimm)
  Re: IDE RAID on linux (Benjamin Grimm)
  Re: linksys question... (sideband)
  Re: Not all memory detected under linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Partition Size Advice (Boudewijn)
  help in my modem ("correo de la familia")
  Re: How can i install redhat5.2 with scsi ultra160 hard disk(aic7892)? (sideband)
  Re: help in my modem (sideband)
  Re: GeForce2 MX supported under Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:00:04 GMT

Xfree 4.0 comes with Mandrake 7.1. you have a choice of which to load.
the 3.x or 4.0.


In article <399f5880$0$66410$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Gerardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which version of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?  Is Xfree 86 4.0
available in
> any distribution?
>
> Thanks,
> Gerardo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:10:59 -0500

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Gerardo quoth:

~~ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:10:02 -0400
~~ From: Gerardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.hardware,
~~     comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup
~~ Subject: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
~~ 
~~ Which version of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?  Is Xfree 86 4.0 available in
~~ any distribution?

If you've already installed it 'X -version' will tell you.  If not,
you should check the ftp servers. 

Freebie 1:  version 3.3.6
Freebie 2:  not to my knowledge (but certainly could be wrong)

Regards,

anm
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Card Suggestion for RH6.2
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:49:38 GMT

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Artur Leung wrote:

> Folks,
>
>      I am in the progress of putting together a RH6.2 machine and would
> like to get some suggestions on the selection of a video card.  I have a
> 19" monitor and am currently using an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 @1152x864
> resolution under Win98.  Here is what I have in mind:  the card does not
> have to be fancy, and 8MB or 16MB RAM is fine for me.  I love to have
> the capability to watch TV under Linux, but that is not a must.  I would
> like to maintain the ability to display the video at the same, or
> better, resolution as my Win98 machine (either 1152x864 or even
> 1280x1024).
>      At this point I am considering a card from ATI, such as the XPERT
> 128 16MB AGP which is selling for $77 at Buy.com.  Then I could add the
> ATI TV-Wonder later on.  Is the XPERT 128 a good choice?  How good do
> ATI cards work in Linux?  Do I need specific video drivers, or can I use
> a generic one?  Do you have any other recommendations that would be
> better and/or cheaper?  Thanks.
>
> Artur
> 8.19.2000

ATI cards are a good choice if you don't intend to use them for gaming.
The Charger series, which is intended for OEM, is available with either 4
Mbytes (which I have) or 8 Mbytes in the $30 to $40 price range.  If you
want to watch TV, then it would appear you should by something better such
as the Xpert@Play.

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:56:42 -0500

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, moonie and UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTERmooniequoth:

~~ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:52:18 -0400
~~ From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.hardware,
~~     comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup
~~ Followup-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.hardware,
~~     comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup
~~ Subject: Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
~~ 
~~ On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Gerardo wrote:
~~ >Which version of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?  Is Xfree 86 4.0 available in
~~ >any distribution?
~~ >
~~ >Thanks,
~~ >Gerardo
~~ >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~ 
~~ Both XFree86 4.0, and 3.3.6 are in M 7.1.  I believe to use 4.0 you have to do
~~ an expert install.

Good thing I marked my previous response with "could be wrong" huh? :-)

Regards,

anm
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~ "Plan to throw one away; you will, anyhow." - Frederick P. Brooks, Jr. ~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linksys question...
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 06:00:22 GMT

thank you everybody for your replies so far.  i've got the two cards
installed in my win98 and linux machines successfully, but they can't
see each other yet.  i've tried setting up my network neighborhood on my
win machine, but i can't find the linux box.  i've gone through some
setup options in 'netcfg' in linux, but obviously none of that is
working.  i've even tried ping'ing the ip address of my win machine from
linux and that goes nowhere.  the cards and hub all look fine; the
lights are on and flickering when they should be.  there are no
indications of a bad install in the logs anywhere.  any ideas?
any more good reference sites?  thanks...


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> you should start from here
>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/index.html
>
> Andrey
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > hello.  i'm trying to install a linksys 10/100 network in a box to
> > connect my win98 machine (amd k6-400 128mb ram) to my redhat linux
6.2
> > machine (pentium 233 64mb ram).  i have the cards in their
respective
> > machines, and now i need to know where to begin with the linux
> > installation.  i'm relatively familiar with unix, but just got this
> > linux box about 3 months ago and this is my first hardware
installation.
> >  where in the world do i begin?
> >
> > thank you,
> > trent
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: 20 Aug 2000 07:28:34 GMT

In comp.os.linux.help Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:8nmmvf$nus$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> In comp.os.linux.help Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : The drive on my Linux box is full.  I have an old HD I can put in, but I
:> : don't know how to configure Linux to recognize it and partition it
:> : correctly.  How is this done?  Thanks.
:> Put drive in box. Boot system. Type fdisk /dev/hdb (or whatever) to
:> partition it. Run mke2fs  on the partitions after one reboot.
:> You have to reboot unless someone has worked out a way to get the
:> kernel to rescan the table ...
: do I just set up the exact same partitions as on the present disk?  I assume

You can partition any way you like. See the partition-howto for
guidelines.

: the OS will then just treat each partition as one big one, regardless of
: which disk it's on, right?

I don't know what you mean by this sentence. A partition is a
partition.  Whatever size, whichever disk it is on.

Peter

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From: "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: 20 Aug 2000 07:42:00 GMT


"Dances With Crows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  So, what I'd
> do is mount one of those new partitions somewhere, like so:
> mkdir /mnt/other && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/other
> and then
> cp -a /usr /mnt/other .  Of course, this new partition should be larger
> than your old /usr partition, to allow for expansion.  You should also
> change /etc/fstab so that /dev/hdb1 is mounted under /usr instead of
> having /dev/hda8 mounted under /usr.

I tried this, but the copied /usr on my new larger disk seems to be missing
files.  When I try to run programs like Midnight Commander, they don't work
any more.  I went back to /etc/fstab and restored the mount for my original
/usr partition, and everything went back to normal.  Could the cp -a command
be the wrong one for copying everything?  Thanks.



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: 20 Aug 2000 07:35:49 GMT

In comp.os.linux.help Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: BTW, Peter, I've done "fdisk /dev/hdb", "mke2fs /dev/hdb{1,5,6,7,9}",
: "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/somewhere", and "cp -a /usr/local /mnt/somewhere"
: without rebooting or anything. Everything worked.  This was with kernel 
: 2.2.10....

What I'm getting at is that bit in the boot sequence where it lists
the partition table for each ide device it finds. I don't think that
code sequence gets repeated. The only chance you'd get to run it would
be when every single partition on that disk was dismounted, and fdisk
or someone issued a pleading ioctl to the kernel. I think that fdisk
does do that, but that the ioctl is almost always errored - I can't
recall ever geting anything but a warning "partition table might not
have been read ..." or something like that from fdisk. I'm happy
to hear that there are circumstances in which it works!


Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem Compiling driver for NIC.
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 06:35:28 GMT

you might want to check to make sure you untar'ed and compiled
everything successfully.  the pci_drv_register function should be found
in the pci-scan.c/pci-scan.o file.

In article <8nm3kq$ohe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey I have been trying to compile the tulip.c driver for my Linksys
> network card.  I comile it then test it with insmod tulip.o and I get:
> tulip.o: unresolved symbol pci_drv_unregister
> tulip.o: unresolved symbol pci_drv_register
>
> If I install it then do depmod -a I get: unresolved symbol in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/tulip.o.  I really need to get this
working.
>  Can anybody help?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Benjamin Grimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sangoma.com wanpipe
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:43:56 +0200

I worked a little bit with this product, I think this is one of the
products optimized for linux.

brad white wrote:

> has any one used this product?
> how about a review?


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From: Benjamin Grimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE RAID on linux
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:45:50 +0200

check out arco-raid duplidisk controllers, this ones are simple and can
mirror up to 4 devices (2 channels with 2 devices). if raid1 is all you need,
check them out.

Markus Kossmann wrote:

> Dick Visser wrote:
> >
> > Hello there
> >
> > I see alot of questions about how to get ATA66 and 100 to work, but has
> > anybody managed to *really* get Linux to work with IDE RAID?
> > If so, what hardware config do you have?
> > I only want hardware IDE RAID, no need for the ATA100 or such.
> >
> The IDE RAID controllers made by 3ware ( www.3ware.com) are supported by
> the standard kernel since 2.2.15.
>
>
> --
> Markus Kossmann
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linksys question...
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:05:55 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> thank you everybody for your replies so far.  i've got the two cards
> installed in my win98 and linux machines successfully, but they can't
> see each other yet.  i've tried setting up my network neighborhood on my
> win machine, but i can't find the linux box.  i've gone through some
> setup options in 'netcfg' in linux, but obviously none of that is working.

Read the Samba howto. Should shed some light on that subject..

-SSB



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Not all memory detected under linux
Date: 20 Aug 2000 08:00:40 GMT

Mark irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I tried passing the parameter'mem=128M' at the lilo prompt, but I also
: get the same kernel panic error.

Try 127M. And keep lowering it until you find the right number. Binary
search is the most effective way.

(see the faq for more info).

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Boudewijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:21:45 GMT


>
>So is this analogous to cluster size / directory entry issues in FAT
>file systems ?
>
>
>Cheers, J/.
>-- 
>John Beardmore
Yes. Roughly comparable, when you're creating the ext2 filesystem, you
(can, I think the default is 4kB) specify a blocksize. mkfs, (actually
smaller programs underneath taht, and you might only see the script
"program"  using it), then calculates the number of inodes that is
required, assuming all files are 4 kB. Statistics say, you have to aim
for the average. If I remember right the inodes are 128 bytes, and
support something like 12 blocks, but always for one file only. Don't
worry, there is a string along trick for more blocks. 

Three of those stringtricks, can result in the famous 4 TByte maximum
ext2fs file size.

With df and df -i, you can find the % used blocks and inodes. If they
differ widely, you might run out of blocks, with plenty 128 B inodes
left. Or vice verse, wich is even worse, cause the blocks are, for
example 4 KB. And anyways, per file you loose 2 kB on the average.

So say, a webserver may be better of with 1 kB blocks, And the
database system of a large corporation may need 16 kB blocks. So ext2
has more than just vfat and no-vfat (oh, and the PC-DOS floppy-fat).

If itis  not so extreme this space and access time cost maybe only
10-20%, and MB's are cheap and quick these days.

On top of that. The boring ("maximum number of mounts..") ext2fs
checks take time, proportional to the square  of the number of inodes!
Which is quite a long time on a 20 GB drive with all 4 kB blocks. So
two halfsize partitions, all other factors the same, spend together
half the time  checking, compared with a a single one. And again half,
per occurence. Just when you're in a hurry to start.

And if somebody messes up one partition, it is nicer if it is a small
one to restore. It is likely, that when /home blows up, you get away
with just restoring just the boss, then the users that were working on
that moment, then the absent ones, and then the somebody who did it.
That is usually something like 100 MB per user, minutes restore time
per user.

Besides program partions don't get much written to, they are unlikely
to get crashed. You have to restore those too in the one big disk
approach. From one (big) tape?. Or from the source CD/DVD's?

proost Boudewijn

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From: "correo de la familia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help in my modem
Date: 20 Aug 2000 09:13:23 GMT

well i have an internal modem that works with windows but i don't know if it
works with linux is a rockwell speaker phone upgrade to conexant don't know
why ? ....
    i tried but i can't



any help
thanks




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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can i install redhat5.2 with scsi ultra160 hard disk(aic7892)?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:48:48 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > When i install redhat5.2,kernel couldn't find my hard disk?
> > > redhat 5.2 didn't support scsi ultra160 aic7892,only support
> > > aic788x.How can i install redhat5.2?
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > Just use the aic78xx driver, it works for me.
> >
> > --
> > Bartek kostrzewa - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <<< http://technoage.web.lu >>>
> >
>
> my linux kernel was 2.0.34,it couldn't find my hard disk when i install
> linux? How to complie my kernel to support aic7892?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

5.2 is old. Upgrade to 6.2. It should support it.

HTH

-SSB



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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help in my modem
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:53:02 -0400

correo de la familia wrote:

> well i have an internal modem that works with windows but i don't know if it
> works with linux is a rockwell speaker phone upgrade to conexant don't know
> why ? ....
>     i tried but i can't
>
> any help
> thanks

Is it a Winmodem?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GeForce2 MX supported under Linux?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:52:39 GMT

Does it work under XFree 3.3.6 and how to make it work ? (just 2D
graphics of course)

thanks

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The MX is supported, there was a bug upon starting X, it gave a blank
> screen for about 30 seconds on some confiurations. I think the next
release
> of the Nvidia driver corrects the problem,
>
> tony
>


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