Linux-Hardware Digest #481, Volume #12 Tue, 14 Mar 00 22:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: SB Live! & RH 6.1 (Ferdinand Badescu)
Re: Is there more than 1 person in the world that can get an HPT366 to boot Linux
Kernel 2.2.14 ? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: New box, Athlon 650, Freetech P7F200A2, RH 6.1, install fails (Ferdinand Badescu)
Re: Ricoh CD-R/RW mp7060s ("Garen Erdoisa")
problem hardware mouse ("Ronald Dumouchel")
Computer Temperature (Darren)
Re: Is there more than 1 person in the world that can get an HPT366 to boot Linux
Kernel 2.2.14 ? (JEDIDIAH)
Logitech MouseMan Wheel and Netscape (Ferdinand Badescu)
Re: 3-button serial mouse (James Silverton)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (Anthony Hill)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (Anthony Hill)
Argosy HD525 driver (is there one?) (Upi Weston)
Proview PV-1564 ("Jerry")
Re: New box, Athlon 650, Freetech P7F200A2, RH 6.1, install fails (Gary Bickford)
want to change partitioning (T)
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From: Ferdinand Badescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB Live! & RH 6.1
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:10:44 -0800
Hi wrote:
> Hi, I've tried sndconfig tool. Though, it detected SB Live in RH 6.1, it's
> not supported...
> Is there anyway I could work around this.....
>
> Thanks
Try the following url:
http://linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/soundcards/sblive.html
If you follow the instructions, you shouldn't have any problem.
Ferdi.
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Ferdi(nand) Badescu
- Developm. Technician -
- Lecturer -
Physics & Astronomy Dept.
Univ. of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92697-4575
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit
Subject: Re: Is there more than 1 person in the world that can get an HPT366 to boot
Linux Kernel 2.2.14 ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:36:40 GMT
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:41:54 +0100, Michael Aye
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there...
>
>Please correct me if i am wrong, but i thought, Linux could only handle
>SWAP partitions with size not bigger as 128MB, or is this only valid
>for DEBIAN Linux?
2.2 kernels with the right utilities can handle 2 G swap.
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Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ferdinand Badescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New box, Athlon 650, Freetech P7F200A2, RH 6.1, install fails
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:34:02 -0800
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Gary Bickford wrote:
> Can anyone point me to information on what to do to get my new toy
> running? will a different distribution fix the problem, or is a
> different mainboard the solution?
>
> In the install from CD, I get one complaint:
> PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 39, VID=1022,
> DID=7409
> PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd400-0xd407, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd408-0xd40f, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdd:pio
>
> depending on BIOS settings (and possibly the phase of the moon...), it
> may hang right there, or go on through startup in the RAMDISK, saying
> "Greetings", "RedHat install .. 6.0", setting up the /proc, /dev and
> /tmp stuff, saying "running install...", and "running /sbin/loader", and
> hang.
>
> I've been looking for information on which Athlon mainboards work. I
> thought the FreeTech P7F200A2 board was among them - I thought I saw an
> article in linux journal that I can't find now, reviewing different
> Athlon motherboards.
>
> Just to complicate life, I've got the ATI 128 Expert video board which
> evidently isn't supported in RH 6.1 but is supported in SuSE 6.3.
Gary,
I've read a lot about Athlon motherboards lately. I am a fan of AMD's and
wanted to get a K7M for myself, but from what I've read, there are
incompatibility issues between Athlon motherboards and Linux. According to
Red Hat, these boards may or may not work, depending on the system
configuration, and are not considered compatible with Linux. They say this
is because Athlon motherboards use cutting-edge technologies, and it'll
take some time until everything will work rock-stable. Also, AMD recommends
just a handful of motherboards for their Athlon. For more information,
please check the following url's:
http://www1.amd.com/athlon/mbl/
http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/61/rh6.1-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.4
Hope this helps.
Ferdi.
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Gary Bickford wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Can anyone point me to information on what to do
to get my new toy
<br>running? will a different distribution fix the problem, or is
a
<br>different mainboard the solution?
<p>In the install from CD, I get one complaint:
<br>PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 39, VID=1022,
<br>DID=7409
<br>PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
<br> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd400-0xd407, BIOS settings: hda:DMA,
hdb:pio
<br> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd408-0xd40f, BIOS settings: hda:DMA,
hdd:pio
<p>depending on BIOS settings (and possibly the phase of the moon...),
it
<br>may hang right there, or go on through startup in the RAMDISK, saying
<br>"Greetings", "RedHat install .. 6.0", setting up the /proc, /dev and
<br>/tmp stuff, saying "running install...", and "running /sbin/loader",
and
<br>hang.
<p>I've been looking for information on which Athlon mainboards work.
I
<br>thought the FreeTech P7F200A2 board was among them - I thought I saw
an
<br>article in linux journal that I can't find now, reviewing different
<br>Athlon motherboards.
<p>Just to complicate life, I've got the ATI 128 Expert video board which
<br>evidently isn't supported in RH 6.1 but is supported in SuSE 6.3.</blockquote>
Gary,
<p>I've read a lot about Athlon motherboards lately. I am a fan of AMD's
and wanted to get a K7M for myself, but from what I've read, there are
incompatibility issues between Athlon motherboards and Linux. According
to Red Hat, these boards may or may not work, depending on the system configuration,
and are not considered compatible with Linux. They say this is because
Athlon motherboards use cutting-edge technologies, and it'll take some
time until everything will work rock-stable. Also, AMD recommends just
a handful of motherboards for their Athlon. For more information, please
check the following url's:
<p><a href="http://www1.amd.com/athlon/mbl">http://www1.amd.com/athlon/mbl/</a>
<br>
<p><a
href="http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/61/rh6.1-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.4">http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/61/rh6.1-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.4</a><a
href="http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/61/rh6.1-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.4"></a>
<p>Hope this helps.
<p>Ferdi.
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From: "Garen Erdoisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ricoh CD-R/RW mp7060s
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:43:07 -0700
I don't have a 7060, however I do have a Ricoh 7040A (IDE Based cdwriter)
which works with linux if you compile in scsi-ide emulation then access it
as a generic scsi device for writing.
Under windows I've had ocational problems with the packet cd driver crashing
on bootup (never while writing data).
The rest of it seems stable enough.
Michael <michael!nospam!(at)pldi.net> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am considering purchasing this for a system using windows and linux.
If
> anyone has had any experience at all with it I would appreciate your
input.
> Michael
>
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From: "Ronald Dumouchel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem hardware mouse
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:42:46 -0500
I install redhat 6.1, and in my first windows setup, a see my mouse work
very good
(i install windows 98 before on this computer and the mouse working good)
after, when the redhat is installed, my mouse work only sometime in GNOME
and KDE
i have a microsoft mouse serial on port1, and a have keyboard AT...
I dont understand whats appening with that becose i try to take different
mouse
on setup.... but nothing work good
Tank's to help me
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From: Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Computer Temperature
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:46:32 -0800
I just bought a new motherboard and the bios reports the fan RPMs and
computer temperature. I was just wondering if there was a program out
there for linux that would tell me those things or if thats possible.
Thanks
Darren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit
Subject: Re: Is there more than 1 person in the world that can get an HPT366 to boot
Linux Kernel 2.2.14 ?
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:42:10 GMT
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:36:40 GMT, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:41:54 +0100, Michael Aye
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hi there...
>>
>>Please correct me if i am wrong, but i thought, Linux could only handle
>>SWAP partitions with size not bigger as 128MB, or is this only valid
>>for DEBIAN Linux?
>
>2.2 kernels with the right utilities can handle 2 G swap.
Redhat 6.1 will set you up a 512G swap partition straight
out of the box... That is how I set up mine, just used
Disk Druid.
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From: Ferdinand Badescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logitech MouseMan Wheel and Netscape
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:40:53 -0800
Dear hardware gurus:
The scrolling wheel from my Logitech MouseMan Wheel+/FirstMan+ works OK
in Gnome, but doesn't work in Netscape (and for this matter, it doesn't
work in KDE, either). In other words, I cannot scroll in Netscape using
the wheel.
Do you know why this happen and what's the remedy to the problem?
Thank you.
Ferdi.
--
Ferdi(nand) Badescu
- Developm. Technician-
- Lecturer -
Physics & Astronomy Dept.
Univ. of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92697-4575
Tel: 949-824-8094
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 3-button serial mouse
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:56:19 -0500
Tony Houghton wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jonathan Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Which misses the point. The Honeywell motion sensing method is better
> > than *any* other method, including that used in Microsoft and Sun optical
> > mice and any type of mouse with a ball.
>
> Ah, but Microsoft's is different from Sun's. It claims to work on almost
> any surface, so you don't have to put up with those awful metal mats and
> felt mouse feet which keep ending up virtually welded together. I don't
> remember the old Suns I used at Uni having a particularly bad problem
> with this (ISTR the mats were some sort of laminate, not metal, ICBW),
> so I had fond memories of the Sun ones and when I found out about a
> cheapish Atari/Amiga optical mouse I bought one and made and adaptor for
> my Acorn. It suffered badly from "sticking", and was also overly
> sensitive to being used at an angle to the pad, so it went back; it also
> suffered from very occasional phantom button presses when I wasn't
> touching it, so that made a good excuse for the supplier ;). The Mouse
> Systems PS/2 mouse I bought later was OK with the angle thing (as was
> the old Sun), but did have the stickiness problem, so that had to go
> back too, after much arguing with the supplier.
>
> The MS IntelliEye should not have those problems in theory, I've no idea
> how effective it is in practice though.
Did you ever drop one of those Sun mice? They were not all that great
afterwards. I can remember having to replace one after dropping it about
a foot.
Jim.
--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: Anthony Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:26:46 -0500
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:37:58 -0800, "Dean_Kent"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:dUvx4.400$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Easy - http://developer.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/prodbref/
>>
>> "Versions that incorporate 256 KB Advanced Transfer Cache (on-die,
>full-speed level 2 (L2) cache
>> with Error Correcting Code (ECC) or versions that incorporate a discrete,
>half-speed, 512 KB in
>> package L2 cache with ECC. "
>
>This was the basis of my comment that the L2 cache is full-speed. On the
>other hand, it transfers data every other clock cycle, which was the basis
>for my 'higher latency' comment.
Umm, I'm not quite following your logic on this one Dean.
You're saying that just because it only transfers data on every secnd
clock cycle it's latency will be higher? You're connecting two almost
totally unrelated things here! The cache on the Coppermines
definately has MUCH lower initialy latency then those on the Katmai's.
> However, since it is much wider a 'word'
>of data gets into the CPU much faster overall - therefore it is as much as 4
>times faster. In other words, it has a higher latency, but also a much
>higher bandwidth... and in this case, bandwidth matters.
Actually, I'd say that the latency is what matters, and the
low latency of the Coppermine cache makes is what really makes the
difference. The high bandwidth helps to, but I don't think that
that's the real issue.
Anthony Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Anthony Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:26:47 -0500
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:14:08 -0500, "Neil Davis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm sorry to see this thread deteriorate so quickly into name-calling,
>because there are some legitimate chipset and driver questions I'd love to
>see addressed. I've put together a number of VIA-based systems, but
>recently I got fed up with them and have switched to the BX boards instead.
>One of the problems I've suffered with the VIA chipset is IRQ sharing. It's
>easy to end up with nicely configured systems that have more peripherals
>than available IRQ's, and my experience is that the VIA IRQ miniport driver
>doesn't allow IRQ sharing as well as the BX boards. I've seen VIA boards
>share IRQ's, but it's not the norm, and I haven't figured out how to get it
>to work as repeatably as the BX boards. For example, one of my machines has
>video, TV-tuner, video capture, SCSI, MODEM, and Soundblaster Live (requires
>2 IRQ's), USB, two IDE's, and they are all shared sociably on a BX board
>(one IRQ actually has 4 devices, and one IRQ is still listed as free). So
>question #1: is there something in the design of the IRQ hardware in the
>Intel chipset that allows it to work better with IRQ-sharing drivers, or is
>Intel just better at writing the IRQ-sharing driver, or is my experience
>with IRQ sharing not consistent with what others have seen?
Hmm, my system actually seems to handle a bunch of IRQs fairly
nicely, as do some of the systems at work. I find it's usually more
the devices themselves then the chipsets that can cause problems,
though generally I try to avoid sharing if possible. One thing that I
do like about my VIA based system is that it actually seems to try and
use free IRQs, where as a lot of other systems (VIA and Intel) I've
used seem to try to get as many devices sharing IRQs as possible while
leaving a lot of IRQs free (ie the machines I use at work a lot put
EVERY PCI and AGP device on IRQ11 by default, which means that 3 to 5
devices are typically using that while IRQ4, IRQ9 and IRQ10 are free).
>The second problem I've had with VIA boards is poor support for certain
>devices using their busmastering drivers. For example, the Nakamichi 5x16
>CD changer hangs up when you try to play audio CD's (using the drivers from
>VIA that were available last month). I also had problems with one of the
>Creative DVD players--lots of dropouts even when busmastering enabled,
>although the Hitachi G2500 DVD player worked perfectly on the same computer.
>So question #2: is there something unique about the VIA IDE hardware that
>makes it difficult to get compatibility with more devices, or is this just a
>software maturity problem, and when will VIA finally get it right?
In my experience ALL companies suck at writing their own bus
mastering IDE drivers. I've had a number of troubles with the bus
mastering drivers from both VIA and Intel. When using Microsoft
drivers for bus mastering, I haven't encountered any sorts of
problems. Install the Intel or VIA drivers and you have problems. Of
course, both VIA and Intel say that their drivers should ONLY be
installed if the version of Windows being used doesn't provide the
drivers natively. So, while I would say that VIA's bus mastering
drivers might be a bit more problematic than Intel's, neither are very
good and you're much better off using the drivers that are built into
the operating system. Using Win98, Win2000 and Linux (2.2.14 kernel)
I've had no troubles at all with the built-in drivers for these
operating systems.
Anthony Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Upi Weston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Argosy HD525 driver (is there one?)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:48:57 +1030
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Argosy has a portable IDE Hard Disc adaptor kit
for PCMCIA. It takes your old 2.5" IDE laptop drive
and runs it externally through a pcmcia interface.
Great if you want to upgrade to a larger internal
drive but don't want to get access to your old one
externally.
But wait! Is there a driver for this animal?
--
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Software Engineer (LISAcorp)
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Wayville, SA, 5034 Sydney, NSW, 2000
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From: "Jerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Proview PV-1564
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:43:50 GMT
Hi, I'm having a difficult time trying to configure my Proview PV-1564 with
X. I've configured it a few times, but the settings always seem to be less
than perfect. Either the scan rate is messed up, or the screen slides off to
the side.
I've already attempted to contact the manufacturer on specs/help, etc. to
no avail. I've also attempted to e-mail a few people searches obtained from
search engines, and still no replies. I've scoured all sorts of hardware
sites looking for insight...
If anyone out there has some decent settings, I'd really appreciate some
help... this problem has been plaguing me for over 3 years.
Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.
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From: Gary Bickford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New box, Athlon 650, Freetech P7F200A2, RH 6.1, install fails
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:50:23 -0800
Ferdinand, thanks.
I was originally going to get the ASUS board (a later version is on the
page you cite), as several sites on the net opined that was the best
board. However my local (windows-centric) hardware folks stopped
carrying the K7M because of reliability issues - but nobody else has had
those problems. On the net, various windows folks debated Asus
reliability - it seems to be dependent on the quality of the memory. My
local ISP runs Athlons with Asus K7M running OpenBSD - they're the ones
got me into this mess :O)
I thought Linux Journal had a comparison of several different boards,
but I can't find it now. (rummage, rummage - Ahah! I found a link I
sent to a friend. It was ixbt labs, not linux journal. There doesn't
seem to be any linux involvement at this site.
Here 'tis: http://www.ixbt-labs.com/mainboard/slota-roundup.shtml
The switch to the Freetech board was a sudden change, and I wasn't
prepared. I vaguely thought it was in the list, but I was wrong. I
think I'll trundle back down and have them change the board out to the
K7M. Thanks for motivating me to look for that link again :O)
G
Ferdinand Badescu wrote:
>
> I've read a lot about Athlon motherboards lately. I am a fan of AMD's
> and wanted to get a K7M for myself, but from what I've read, there are
> incompatibility issues between Athlon motherboards and Linux.
> According to Red Hat, these boards may or may not work, depending on
> the system configuration, and are not considered compatible with
> Linux. They say this is because Athlon motherboards use cutting-edge
> technologies, and it'll take some time until everything will work
> rock-stable. Also, AMD recommends just a handful of motherboards for
> their Athlon. For more information, please check the following url's:
>
> http://www1.amd.com/athlon/mbl/
>
>
> h
> tp://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/61/rh6.1-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.4
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ferdi.
>
>
>
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From: T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: want to change partitioning
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:54:03 -0800
How can I best handle this situation?
I made too many partitions on the harddrive and want to kill 2 of
them, but don't want to re-install and/or lose data. (I'm RedHat 6.1
upgraded from 5.2 on Pentium I, 166, 64 mb, 6 gig, ethernet).
I created partitions for:
/
/usr
/home
/var
/swap
The problem came up when I tried to install some development tools for
gnome and got lots of error messages from the os saying essentially
that it couldn't read or write to certain sectors and the rpm
installation bombed out.
It was trying to install into /usr and that partition is 75% full.
There's 2.something gigs free on /home and about the same on /var.
I thought I was being so cautious and smart creating those partitions
and it's been nothing but stupid. Live and learn. I now want all the
space under root and just want to create the directories for /usr and
/home under root and not as partitions.
/var can stay, but it's hogging space too. /swap can and probably
should stay, so I've read.
So ideally, I'd buy a DAT tape drive and backup the partitions and
restore. But that's a lot of $$$ I don't have at the moment. I have a
win98 machine on the home network with the Linux box. I'd consider
using the win98, but don't know how and afraid of screwing up.
BTW, I found an HP DAT drive 5000i for $99 on the net, but it comes
with NO drivers. Plus I don't have a scsi ii card around here. I've
got a scsi i somewhere. I've also got an old Colorado tape backup for
DOS 250 mb per tape. Did anyone ever create a Linux driver for that?
Also got Partition Magic 4 around here somewhere but afraid to use it.
The server is my email and web server so it's no place to experiment
and learn.
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