Linux-Hardware Digest #637, Volume #12            Fri, 7 Apr 00 20:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  BTTV ("The Beast")
  ncurses, termcap, terminfo and the LCD
  Re: Am I the only person around with a 40 gig HD? ("Bobby Hitt")
  What am I doing Wrong! ("Toolman")
  Re: Linux and Wake-on-LAN NIC feature (bgeer)
  Re: I-opener and linux: 128meg really helps! (Bryan)
  Re: Doh! 32-bit @1024x768 acts weird! HELP ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: 128MB memory problem and cache problem (Michael J Porter)
  Re: CDROM problem: Acer 50X (Steve Cousins)
  Mandrake 7.0 on a compaq ARMADA V300 laptop (Christophe JEANSON)
  Re: Amptron Motherboard compatibility? (Paul)
  Re: Xircom network adapter (Chris)
  Re: Am I the only person around with a 40 gig HD? (Chris)
  Re: Soundcards with es1938-chipset (John Collier)
  Re: IBM 486 ("Rev. Reverse")
  Re: Abit BP6 (Robert Redelmeier)

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From: "The Beast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BTTV
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:17:09 +0100

I have an unbranded tv tuner card based on the bt848 (rev 18) chipset, I
believe that the card is effectively the Askey MagicTView CPH061
(http://www.askey.com.tw/product/frame_tv.html) but I am not certain of
this.

I have been trying to get this card to work under linux using the latest (I
believe) drivers, 0.6.4 (http://www.metzlerbros.de/bttv.html) but have been
un able to get both sound and picture to work together.  If I select card 1
in the driver I get the sound working fine, if I select cards 10, 13 or 16
then I get the picture working fine, in all these cases the tuning works
fine.  I am using xawtv and have tried kwintv both give the same results.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanx



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: ncurses, termcap, terminfo and the LCD
Date: 7 Apr 2000 20:52:13 GMT

I am building an LCD display terminal with a 20 x 4 LCD display and
a 8031 processor.  I want to make it look like like a serial terminal
to Linux and control the display using ncurses.

What is the best way:

- Make the LCD look like some existing terminal type (vt100)?
- Make my own minimal terminal (cursor position, clear screen, display
  text) and make a terminfo/termcap definition for it?

If I am making my own definition what is the minimum the terminal
needs to do to work with ncurses?

Any pointers are welcome.

Thanks.

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From: "Bobby Hitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Am I the only person around with a 40 gig HD?
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:55:26 -0400

There's absolutely no reason why you can't use FAT32 and access from both
Linux and Windows 95/98/2000. In the Linux kernel configuration, you
specify:

CONFIG_FAT_FS=y
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y

and recompile. Then in your fstab:

/dev/hdxx    /dos    vfat    defaults    1 1

where "xx" is your fat32 partition.

I'm using 2.2.14 here with multiple fat32 partitions.

Bobby Hitt

"Steve Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Victor A. Grinberg" wrote:
>
> > As you can tell I'm proud of my new 40 GB HD :-).  Here's my problem: I
> > put a 24GB FAT32 partition at the end of the drive, for data, so I could
> > access it from both win98 and linux.  Win 98 can get to it fine, which
> > means the partition is properly formatted :-).  Linux can't mount it,
> > however.  Is this a bug in linux FAT32 support??
>
> Victor:
>
> I'm running 2.2.14 here, so I took a dash over to /usr/src/linux and
> checked... I don't think this kernel even supports FAT32 (at least
> there's no option for it in "make xconfig"). It supports FAT,
> but no mention of FAT32.
>
> I'm sure there's someone on this ng that knows more about it than
> I do, and hopefully they'll speak up if I'm wrong, but you may be
> SOL trying to access FAT32.



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From: "Toolman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: What am I doing Wrong!
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:01:57 -0700

Hi Folks!

I have (2) SCSI drives.  Disk (00) = 4.3 gig  & disk (01) = 1 gig.  I
partitioned disk (00) to C: ='s 2165 & D: ='s 2165.  I then installed Win2K
on D:.  I then tried to install Corel Linux on disk (01) and give it the
whole disk, but now it won't let me.  It only appears to see disk (00) and
want's to erease the whole drive or else share it with Win2K.

All I want to do is install Win2K on disk (00) and Linux on (01).  I did it
once before, but for some reason I can't do it now.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Dennis, WI



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bgeer)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
Subject: Re: Linux and Wake-on-LAN NIC feature
Date: 7 Apr 2000 15:11:27 -0600

Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >William McGrath wrote:
 >> I was wondering about the WoL feature on some NICs. As far as I
 >> understand it, WoL is a feature of the NIC and connects via a wire to
 >> a connector on a motherboard that supports this feature.

 >I haven't used it, but this is the way I understand it also.

Yup - a wire to the ma'board.  I looked into it awhile back & saved  a
few scraps of info:

   Wake-On-LAN mode: Supports Magic Packet Wakeup
   
   ACPI mode: Supports -
     o PCI bus Power Management Interface Spec. (Rev 1.1)
     o D0, D1, D2, D3hot, and D3cold, 5 different power states
     o PMEB (including LWAKE) can be generated from D1, D2, D3hot,
       and D3cold
     o Magic Packet Wakeup
     o LinkUP wakeup
     o Microsoft Wakeup frame

>From this I conclude the ma'board's design & BIOS must implement a
bunch of ACPI stuff, then you'd need software to send a magic packet
of the appropriate flavor.  Sounds easy, but I also found the
following:
   
   Notes regarding tulip chip net cards from:
     http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip-devel.html
   
   Long Term Development Issues:
   
     o Implement the Wake-On-LAN capability available in 21143. The driver
       part is easy, but the kernel support requires writing extensive APM
       interface code.

I argued with myself over which is better - a lan wakeup capability,
or leave the system running with UPS power backup & power management
[esp. disk & monitor] tuned appropriately.  I haven't come to a
definitive [for me] conclusion as yet...:-)


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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I-opener and linux: 128meg really helps!
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 21:14:42 GMT

Carlos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Joe Ringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 03:26:00 GMT, Bryan wrote:
: >>just as an fyi, my kernel build HALVED when I went from the stock
: >>32meg sodimm to a 128meg stick.  from a half hour (2.2 series) to 15
: >>minutes.
: >>
: >>add the winchip2 as an upgrade and I'm hoping it will be less than 10 minutes.
: >>
: >>so the rumors of the i-opener NOT using more than 64meg are a lie.
: >>run 'free' and it does show 128meg.

: The question is:  how much can it cache...

the filesystem is automatically cached in main memory.  so that's one plus.

but as far as "does the cache have enough tagram for all that phymem",
I'm not sure it matters.  meaning: I'm not sure there IS any external
cache!!  the bios reports NO external (non-cpu) cache.  its greyed out
and set to 'disabled' ;-(

yeah, its a very low-end pc.  never even meant to be a pc.  but for
the cost of $100 or so (for the sodimm), it halved my kernel build
time, so I'm not one to ask too many questions and look a gift horse
in the mouth ;-)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Doh! 32-bit @1024x768 acts weird! HELP
Date: 7 Apr 2000 21:13:14 GMT

Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Gene Heskett wrote:
:> Hummm, 4 megs you say.  Do the math, Mark.  32 bits is a 4 byte
:> broadside read, so 1024x768x4 is 3.145728 megabytes of just the visible
:> raster screen data.  And the cards processor needs room to do its thing.

: Actually, I _did_ do the math (as you say) and came up with the 3.14..MB
: which I thought would work with my 4MB card. I have no idea how much
: "extra" the video card needs to really do the work, so I concluded that
: it _may_ work. I just wasn't sure. Is there a commonly known guideline
: as to what percentage (or perhaps integer multiple) of the cards video
: RAM is needed for the video card just to "do it's thing"?

Sure. Just look at your modeline. But you might as well just guess
25% more.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael J Porter)
Subject: Re: 128MB memory problem and cache problem
Date: 7 Apr 2000 17:14:06 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
nick hanno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=>I've just replaced the 128MB with a brand new stick of 128MB and STILL the
=>same problem! Brand is KingMax. Anyone heard of bad reports about this brand
=>of SDRAM? or an incompatability between this RAM and an MSI MS-6153VA
=>motherboard. Are coppermine CPU's flakey?

Does the memory support SPD?  Perhaps you have a timing problem if
the memory doesn't support it?  Or a cooling problem?  For
instance, Intel 440BX chipsets that aren't heat sinked and have a
fan directed at them reportedly can have problems.

Mike
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From: Steve Cousins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM problem: Acer 50X
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:18:07 -0400

Steve Cousins wrote:

> Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
> > I have a 50x Acer, and the patch I think you may be referring to
> > appeared about 2.2.15pre5. At least that is where I got going. 2.2.14
> > would generate the same type errors as above for me. FYI ...
> >
> > Same scenario with me, installation was fine, but not usable afterwards.
> > I also found oddly that if I booted runlevel 3 (no X), it generally
> > worked fine for some reason. startx would kill it though. Try
> > 2.2.15preWhatEverItIsAtNow.
> >
> > --
> > Hal B
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --
>
> Thanks Hal,
>
> You answered my question before I was able to ask it.  I just got the latest
> 2.2.14 kernel and it gave me the same problem.  I'll try to find the patch
> that you mention and see if that does the trick.
>
> Steve

BTW  Any idea where to get this?  The only thing I can find right now is
2.3.99-pre3.  Is that what I want?

Thanks,

Steve
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From: Christophe JEANSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 7.0 on a compaq ARMADA V300 laptop
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 22:04:38 GMT

Hi guys !

Tomorrow, I have to a friend to configure a mnadrake 7.0 linux
distribution on his new laptop (Compaq armada V300). He ran into
troubles when he tried to configure the XFree86 (3.6, I think) on the
video card (ATI mobility). do somebody already installed the Mdk 7.0 on
a laptop with that video card and was successfull or got into troubles ?
Is there anything I have to know to spare some hours of my week end ?

Thanks

                    Christophe


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From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Amptron Motherboard compatibility?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:08:15 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:59:05 -0500, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello,
>I'm going to build a Linux box and I was wondering if anyone has had
>any luck with an "all inclusive" Socket 7 motherboard.  The one I'm
>looking at has AGP Video (8 meg shared) and an ESS sound chip.
>The brand is Amptron and the model is 0598.
>http://www.amptron.com
>
>According to the manufacturer, it is compatible.
>I bought a copy of SuSE 6.3 to use.
>
>Any thoughts or comments are greatly appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>

Thanks for your thoughts.. I will make life simpler and buy brand name
stuff!

Paul


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Subject: Re: Xircom network adapter
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 22:51:08 GMT

>>Rudi Donne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Read the HOW-TO's.
>>> Xircom is not supported.

They offer Linux drivers for their new hardware.  It's the older stuff
that's causing problems.

Xircom is saying they "need to protect patents" on the obsolete technology
and is refusing to allow anyone to develop 3rd-party drivers.  I think it
would be more accurate to say they have decided that there is no financial
gain to be realized from supporting products that are no longer in
production, and are just doing the minimum possible to convince you to buy
their new stuff at full retail.  My guess is that they will stop releasing
driver updates for the current hardware as soon as the products are
discontinued.

This is unfortunate, since it's the old stuff that turns up at flea
markets at prices that hobbiests can afford.  My laptop came with a CEM2.
It worked perfectly under Windows, but I had to replace it anyway since
Xircom 

I want to upgrade my computer because I am not happy with it or because
it's broken.  I don't want to do upgrades simply because some company has
decided it's time for me to give them more money.

I bought a replacement for my fully functional CEM2.  You can bet your
life it wasn't a Xircom.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Am I the only person around with a 40 gig HD?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 22:51:09 GMT

On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:11:08 -0400, "Victor A. Grinberg"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in comp.os.linux.hardware:

> Win 98 can get to it fine, which
>means the partition is properly formatted :-).  Linux can't mount it,
>however.

Why don't you post a copy of your partition table, /etc/fstab file and the
results of your mount command?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Collier)
Subject: Re: Soundcards with es1938-chipset
Date: 7 Apr 2000 23:25:34 GMT

Tobi Heinemann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Are there any drivers for this type of soundcards?

I use the ones in kernal version 2.14 with no problems.
I tried the ALSA drivers, but never was ablee to configure
them properly. I have an ess1938 Solo1, and that is the 
card I chose when compiling the kernel. This is essential 
to gettign the kernele support to work. Don't choose any
othe sound options, except the obvious that you have a 
sound card.

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From: "Rev. Reverse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM 486
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:45:00 -0500

ok, i've got AMI BIOS and 3 beeps.  Which means that i have "base
64 k memory failure.

now my question is:
        what should i do about it?  is this something i could
fix, or should i look for another old 486 motherboard?

thank you for tolerating my lack of experience.

Rev. Reverse

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Christian Hoefer wrote:

> 
> Rev. Reverse schrieb in Nachricht ...
> >i am trying to troubleshoot an old IBM 486.  when i turn it on:
> >i get no reaction from the moniter,
> >i hear the first floppy drive doing soming,
> >i don't hear the hard drive at all,
> >then a few seconds later the pc speaker starts beeping an anoying
> >beep at me.
> >
> >i am new to the hardware thing and i though troubleshooting this
> >machine would be a learning experience.
> >
> >Rev. Reverse
> >
> 
> hi,
>  the beep comes from the BIOS POST =power on self test
> 
> in a early stage, before it even recognizes the BIOS extension
> on your graphics card - so it can't send written error messages-
> it send beepcodes.
> 
> find the manufacturer and version of your BIOS . on theire
> Web sites you'll find which beepsequence means what.
> ( search for 'postcodes')
> for some elder AMI and Award BIOSses i think i'll can
> mail you but better search the web.
> 
> some example(AMI):
> 
> 1 beep Refresh failure
> 2 beeps Parity error
> 3 beeps Base 64K memory failure
> 4 beeps Timer not operational
> 5 beeps Processor error
> 6 beeps 8042 - gate A20 failure
> 7 beeps Processor exception interrupt error
> 8 beeps Display memory read/write failure
> 9 beeps ROM checksum error
> 10 beeps CMOS shutdown register read/write error
> 11 beeps Cache memory bad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: Robert Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.harware.chips
Subject: Re: Abit BP6
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 19:01:45 -0500

Adam Stouffer wrote:
> No, if you want real stable SMP the proper way then buy a real dual
> socket mobo and run the cpus at their rated speed. Buy good quality ram, 

IMHO absolutely true,  and slotkets do not count.  In developing my
`cpuburn` testing suite, I was appalled at the errors I was able to
provoke with `burnBX`, a max RAM load tester on my BP6.  I can get 
them to effectively zero by running at a slower bus speed (97 MHz),
but they are worrying.

Before I hear any griping about overclocking, let me add that my
Cel366's are each individually capable of error-free operation at
104 MHz (572 MHz).  But put them together, and `burnBX` throws errors
above 97 MHz (533).

>From this I infer that Intel is actually right when they say "Celerons
are not validated for SMP".  Nor are the stepping cA2 Coppermine FC-PPGAs 
(to Intel's embarrassment).  I think the issue is exactly the same--3.3V 
I/O driving circuits on the data, address and control lines.

Since the slot Coppermines _are_ SMP capable with the same core, the 
issue cannot be exclusively on-die.  But the slot package includes
a number of power decoupling capacitors with excellent (soldered) 
connections in close proximity to the die.  The PPGA packages don't. 

Current PPGA decoupling has to be past the ZIF socket resistance,
on the mobo.    This reduces the effectiveness of the decoupling,
so that under high current drains (like I go to pains to create 
with `burnBX`), chip voltage sags, and bits don't get lit.  Of
course, I/O current requirements are much higher under SMP, with 
the additional CPU snooping (or even tristated).

FWIW, the original PPGAs, the Pentium MMX had decoupling caps
on the package, and so do K6 and Cyrix M2 CPUs. The newest cB0 
Coppermine stepping may have other on-die solutions since I 
doubt Intel wants the expense of adding caps again.

My Abit BP6 is stable, and so are many others.  If somebody has
continuing problems, and has tried the usual solutions (300W 
power supply, BX grease, add'l cooling, good SDRAM), they might
want to carefully check the alignment of their 3.3V CPU pins.
A poor contact here might make for higher resistance, poor
decoupling, and errors.

-- Robert  author `cpuburn`  http://users.ev1.net/~redelm

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