Linux-Hardware Digest #637, Volume #9 Fri, 12 Mar 99 04:13:44 EST
Contents:
Tulip driver, with buildin 21143 controller. (stephen ashley)
Re: Modem setup problems - no DTR except in MINICOM ("Rusty")
Newbie-Printing more than postscript files (Greg)
Re: bad superblock? ("rob")
Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers (Greg White)
Re: need help mounting root on SyJet disk ("Miguel B. Martinez")
Re: Need to restore Master Boot Record-forgot command-Help! (Allen)
Re: DIAMOND VIPER 550 AND AGP ("rob")
Re: HOW TO UNINSTALL LILO , and boot with a floppy disk ? (Villy Kruse)
Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session ("M. le Rutte")
Re: RED HAT x SLACKWARE ("John E. Garrott")
Re: A more complete and well-formed question. (Allen)
Re: RH 5.2 and Hayes V.90 int modem (Charley)
Re: SMC EZ ethernet card trouble (David Lisle)
Re: Wanted: recommendation on a good graphics card for linux. (Allen)
Re: Modem setup (Allen)
Re: Gateway G6-350? (Dean Darlison)
Re: buying a linux box -- advice? (Gianni Mariani)
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From: stephen ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Tulip driver, with buildin 21143 controller.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:03:24 +0930
I am having trouble getting and Digital PC 5000-266 PII system to use
the build in DEC Chip 21143 ethernet controller. The onboard controller
works fine, when I am in my BORG BODY SUIT (ie Windows NT4.0 SP4) But I
am trying real hard to remove my BORG eye piece, Arm extender and body
suit ;) .
Anyhow enough of the sillyness. The red hat 5.2 CDrom install never
detected this controller, I have re-build a(several) kernals (modular
and monolitic) with the newest tulip.c (24-feb-'99). This kernal find
the controller but end's up with a warning about the transcever being
not found. When I tried a modular kernal I never saw the eth0: device
get reported in the message log. I use the xconfig tool changed the 'Y'
to a 'M' (PCI ether section was still 'Y') make boot; make clean; make
dep; make modules; make modules_install. cpoy the kernel, and
/sbin/lilo. Rebooted.
Stephen Ashley,
Member: ASLUG
Alice Springs,
Out Back Oz.
Chip Markings.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
digital 21143-PB
21-44085-11
(c)DEC 1996
DC1071B
/var/log/ Message file as below:--- Monlitic Kernel.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: The PCI BIOS has not enabled the device
at 0/24! Updating PCI command 0014->0015.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: tulip.c:v0.90q 2/23/99
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: Digital DS21143 Tulip rev 48 at
0xec00, 00:00:F8:7A:00:13, IRQ 9.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: EEPROM default media type
Autosense.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: Index #0 - Media 10baseT (#0)
described by a 21142 Serial PHY (2) block.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: Index #1 - Media 10baseT-FD (#4)
described by a 21142 Serial PHY (2) block.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: Index #2 - Media 10base2 (#1)
described by a 21142 Serial PHY (2) block.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: Index #3 - Media AUI (#2) described
by a 21142 Serial PHY (2) block.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: Index #4 - Media MII (#11)
described by a 21142 MII PHY (3) block.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: eth0: ***WARNING***: No MII transceiver
found!
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: Partition check:
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 >
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: sdb: sdb1
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly.
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: Adding Swap: 128484k swap-space (priority
-1)
Mar 12 09:39:30 ali49 kernel: Adding Swap: 128484k swap-space (priority
-2)
Mar 12 09:39:33 ali49 kernel: eth0: The transmitter stopped! CSR5 is
f0068002, CSR6 b3860002.
Mar 12 09:39:42 ali49 PAM_pwdb[338]: (login) session opened for user
root by
.
.[SNIPED]
.
Mar 12 09:55:33 ali49 kernel: eth0: The transmitter stopped! CSR5 is
f0008102, CSR6 b2420200.
Mar 12 09:56:33 ali49 kernel: eth0: The transmitter stopped! CSR5 is
f0008102, CSR6 b2420200.
Mar 12 09:57:33 ali49 kernel: eth0: The transmitter stopped! CSR5 is
f0008102, CSR6 b2420200.
Mar 12 09:58:33 ali49 kernel: eth0: The transmitter stopped! CSR5 is
f0008102, CSR6 b2420200.
Mar 12 09:59:33 ali49 kernel: eth0: The transmitter stopped! CSR5 is
f0008102, CSR6 b2420200.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
PCI Probe (/proc/pci)
As Below:-
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 11, function 0:
SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7881U (rev 0).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master
Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8.
I/O at 0xe800.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfdffa000.
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: Matrox Millennium (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfdffc000.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfd000000.
Bus 0, device 7, function 1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 IDE (rev 0).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable.
Latency=32.
I/O at 0xecf0.
Bus 0, device 7, function 0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371SB PIIX3 ISA (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No
bursts.
Bus 0, device 3, function 0:
Ethernet controller: DEC DC21142 (rev 48).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 9. Master
Capable. Latency=165. Min Gnt=20.Max Lat=40.
I/O at 0xec00.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfdffbc00.
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel 82441FX Natoma (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable.
Latency=32.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: "Rusty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem setup problems - no DTR except in MINICOM
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:09:45 -0800
I'm having the same problem! Except my modem occasionally kicks in out of
the blue and dials as if to mock me. I have tried every method of opening
the ppp connection, and nothing will activate the modem, but I can easily
dial out through the modem in minicom HELP???
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From: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Newbie-Printing more than postscript files
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:17:05 -0800
I am running RED HAT 5.2 and I have a HP722C printer. I installed the
pbm2ppa file onto my system. I am able to print postscript files using
lpr.
Example: "lpr testpage.ps" or from the printool of RED HAT in X windows.
I also want to be able to print other files like: ascii, .txt, .bmp,
.jpg, etc...
I am using the RED HAT filter in the printcap file.
/etc/printcap reads:
lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:
I thought that the RED HAT filter was a magic filter allowing for
printing multiple file types. I've tried "lpr testpage.txt" or "lpr
testpage.ascii", but I don't get any results.
Can you please help me.
Thanks in advance.
Greg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bad superblock?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:43:32 -0700
Linux supports FAT32 just fine, which is pretty funny considering
Microsoft's own WinNT does _not_. Sheesh.
rob.
Rick Luna wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> Is it, by chance, a FAT32 partition? AFAICR, Linux doesn't yet have FAT32
>> support, and cant read such filesystems.
>
>yup, FAT32. Since I have RH 5.0, maybe 5.2 has the support I need, and
>if so, how do i go about upgrading my Kernel? Were you speaking of linux
>in general doesn't have support for fat32?
>
>-rick
>
>
>--
>________________________________________________________________
>Rick Luna Phillips Design Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Graphic Designer 930 N Meridian Street www.pdgroup.com/rick/
> Indianapolis, In 46204
> http://www.pdgroup.com
> Ofc:317.955.8435
> FAX:317.955.8551
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From: Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:26:44 -0800
childsplay wrote:
>
> This is very disturbing
>
> http://www.mercurycenter.com/breaking/docs/041815.htm
>
> --
> Charles "childsplay" VanDyke
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ# 14539920 ============
> ]TeamGameSpy[ ============
> http://www.gamespy.com ===
You're right. It is very disturbing that someone would post a broken
link to a newsgroup. <g>
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From: "Miguel B. Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help mounting root on SyJet disk
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:12:15 -0600
Howard Jonathan Feldman wrote:
> I'm trying to copy over my Linux system from my hard drive to my SCSI
> Syjet.
>
> I partitiioned it (/dev/sdd1) and made a swap paritition, and used mkfs
> to format it
> as a ext2fs drive. I copied over what I wanted, and can mount the drive
> fine when
> root is in my hard drive.
>
> So I re-ran LILO telling it to mount root as /dev/sdd1 instead. Now
> when I boot to
> linux, I end up with this error, and the system hangs:
>
> SCSI disk I/O error dev 08:31, sector 2
> EXT2fs unable to read superblock
> device busy for revalidation (usage=1)
> .
> .
> .
> unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address
> 000040
> .
> .
> then a list of registers, stack ptrs etc.
>
> Anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
> I tried running fsck on the drive too, but it ddn't turn up any errors,
> everything seems
> fine. Is it just not possible to mount a removable drive as root?
>
> (I'm using a 2.0.?? kernel)
>
> e-mail if you can help!!!
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Howard Feldman
> Author of The Search for Freedom, Fantasy RPG for DOS
> visit its Homepage at http://www.ecf.toronto.edu/~feldman/
If you are trying to boot from the drive you will have to tell the bios to
boot from SCSI otherwise things get all kinds of funky. If you have
already done that you may have to wait for someone else to reply.
later
mig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Need to restore Master Boot Record-forgot command-Help!
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:33:22 GMT
You got that right! the full command (in DOS) is fdisk /mbr
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:15:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James ) wrote:
>I need to restore the Master Boot Record on an ide drive in dos to fix a
>corrupted Linux install. It's been such a long time since I had to do
>this I've forgotten the command. I'm pretty sure it uses the /mbr switch.
>If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
>
>Thanks,
>Jim
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DIAMOND VIPER 550 AND AGP
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:41:19 -0700
If it helps any, my ViperV550 works fine with linux - in fact it's
supported.
You need the newest version of XFree86 and the svga server.
My only question... will I be able to play quake3 on my TNT under linux?
rob.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<7c8r6l$kpj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Ed Jones wrote:
>> OPPIE wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I had a similar problem with one of the newer 16 meg Diamond Viper
>> 330 cards. I had to go into the video config file /etc/X11/XF86Config
>> file and change a line in the Screen sections area.. Look for Device "My
>> Video Card" and check the Modes and Virtual setting.
>>
>> I had to change them to:
>>
>> Modes "1024x768" and Virtual 1024 768
>>
>> However, I did not purchase the Viper 550 AGP, because I have not heard
>> of someone using this card under linux.. You might go to the Diamond
>> website and ask for help on this. They claim to support linux ;-)
>
>Hi:
>
>I just received an email from Diamond and they said that they DO NOT
>support Linux, the did give me the URL's for Xfree86, etc. so they at
>least helped me out. Later yous guys!
>
>
>------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: HOW TO UNINSTALL LILO , and boot with a floppy disk ?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 08:51:18 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Fr�d�ric Dumont wrote:
>
>
>First go to /boot
>I tried boot.b but boot.0300? works better; just try before you fly.
>
>dd if=boot.0300 of=/dev/fdo bs=1440
>
Safer to do 'lilo -u /dev/fda'
Villy
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From: "M. le Rutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:50:25 +0100
Tim Kelley wrote:
> Well, this happens every now and then even with the best xservers ...
> but there is an important distinction, which most users don't care
> about, but it does need to be made.
I thought Linux was extremely stable.... Better stick to MS, I believe.
Maurice.
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From: "John E. Garrott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RED HAT x SLACKWARE
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:59:40 -0800
wilson wrote:
>
> Is it my impression or is 80% of the problems
> wichever are they, do occur with Red Hat as
> opossed to SlackWare ? Is that because we
> have out there many more RH users than SlackWare
> users or is it due to SlackWare being better ??
> Anyone ?
I am a confirmed Slackware user. I've tried RedHat several times,
but always went back to Slackware. It just seems easier to me.
The answer to your question, though, to be fair is at least partly
due to the number of RH users. Also, I think Slackware users tend
to be more experienced. I won't argue that last point, however.
Either distribution, or any of several others, should give good
results. Linux is, after all, Linux. The GNU software that supports
it is the same.
Whichever you use, enjoy :)
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A more complete and well-formed question.
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:54:24 GMT
After carefully re-reading your original post, I don't think you want, or will
be happy with Linux, because It WILL require you to think outside the box. it
has a rather steep learning curve for those not practiced in Unix, and though it
is a very capable OS, I still use, and will continue to use Win95 for most
games, and the thing that your family want's to do, for the most part are much
better supported by 3rd party devlopement software efforts through the popular
equipment package OS. Bottom line: You can either continue to pay for your OS,
and pay someone else to develope it for you as they think you will want,
(whether they're right about your preferences or not), or you can learn to do it
yourself, which isn't an easy job. You wouldn't be alone, but Bill Gates won't
be there to hold your hand, and his money will cause many software (and
hardware) companies to ignore you also if you choose Linux. Linux is much better
suited (right now), for server type apps, which won't require untrained persons
to have to interact with it. I'm not against Linux in any way, but if you
choose to use it, I think you deserve to know the truth going in... If you were
to go to a typical nursing home or kindergarten, and get a sampling of the
people there for training them to use Linux or Win9x, you will certainly have a
much easier time with Win9x group. I hope you appreciate my candor, as I wasn't
trying to draw flames, and I'm not giving up on Linux either, but it isn't ever
going to be easy, just cheap :-)) You can ALWAYS find a way to get Linux to do
whatever you want it to, if you are willing to work hard enough!
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:34:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan J. Maloney) wrote:
...snip...
>But will the Mac with Linux do all that I want to do in Linux only, or
>will I have to still use the Mac OS to do those other things?
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: Charley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 5.2 and Hayes V.90 int modem
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:41:33 -0500
Charley wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I can't seem to get the modem to communicate. I was able to get
> "pnpdump --c > isapnp.conf" to set the correct irq and address for COM2, but
> Minicom nor the ppp module can get a response out of the modem. Minicom is
> able to initialize the modem, (or so it reports) but it will not dial nor
> can I force it to respond to AT commands. PPP doesn't do a thing either.
> /dev/modem is directed to /dev/cua1, which I think is correct. The setup
> string being sent to the modem is ATZ. This is very frustrating - my
> coworkers are snickering behind my back! Anybody have any suggestions?
>
> Thanx
>
> Maus
I got it to work today by diabling PnP and both comm ports in BIOS. I'm sure
it has to do with the fact that both my modem and AWE 64 are Plug and Pray
cards. Please excuse me for answering my own post. I thought my (apparent)
solution may be of use to someone.
Thanx
Maus
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From: David Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMC EZ ethernet card trouble
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 04:56:36 GMT
Yes I too am experiencing trouble with an SMC Ether EZ. This card ran
fine under a Windows installation but eth0 fails to initialize at boot.
I notice that when the bootup messages scroll by that autoprobe detects
the card, the following line gives the irq and io range for the card all
of which concurs with my previous Windows setup. I have cleaned all
other OS from my system and run only Linux (Caldera) 1.3 woth
appropriate linux partitions by the book. Everything else seems to work
fine.
P.S. Do you know how to 'capture' the bootup output into a file?
i tried > /etc/report.txt 2>&1 but didn't get what I expected.
Any help on either of these topics would be great.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Wanted: recommendation on a good graphics card for linux.
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:33:32 GMT
One word-- Matrox
On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:35:31 +0200, gkedem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi.
>
>I'm buying new PC(PII 350Mhz) and am looking for recommendations as to
>which graphics card i should get. Does the ATI XPERT 8MB AGP work well
>on linux?
>
>Thanks, Gilad
>
>please cc replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Gilad.
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Modem setup
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:33:31 GMT
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:35:38 +0000, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you can get a known good ISA modem w/jumpers for $50 US, why bother?
(I guess if you didn't have the $50?)
>Would it work if the user had two PC's networked to gether.
>1 running Linux and the other running Windows or NT (windows for the ISP
>connection).
>
>One could dial using the windows PC then connect to linux via an internal
>network
>or via a xwindows emulator on the windows PC.
>
>Also, as anyone in the wine project managed to sort this problem out with PCI
>modems ?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Matt
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: Dean Darlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gateway G6-350?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:02:21 +0000
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Willie wrote:
> After working for a great company like Gateway, I find it hard to believe
> that they would continue to carry Mpact's product in their system. With
> Windows and DVD the Mpact works great. However, Mpact's persistence to
> not provide any Linux assistance signifies their lackluster support
> efforts. (And their Web site sucks too.)
>
While you're at it how about information on how to configure Gateway's own
(WHY?) version
of the ENSONIQ (vivo soundscape) card !!!!!!!
The problem is the card doesn't seem to get detected.
(currently running 2.2.3 on SuSE 6.0 distribution)
Cheers,
Dean.
--
Dean.A.Darlison
Dasco Ltd.
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Willie wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>After working for a great company like Gateway, I
find it hard to believe
<br>that they would continue to carry Mpact's product in their system.
With
<br>Windows and DVD the Mpact works great. However, Mpact's persistence
to
<br>not provide any Linux assistance signifies their lackluster support
<br>efforts. (And their Web site sucks too.)
<br><a href="http://www.searchlinux.com"></a> </blockquote>
While you're at it how about information on how to configure Gateway's
own (WHY?) version
<br>of the ENSONIQ (vivo soundscape) card !!!!!!!
<p>The problem is the card doesn't seem to get detected.
<p>(currently running 2.2.3 on SuSE 6.0 distribution)
<p>Cheers,
<br> Dean.
<pre>--
Dean.A.Darlison
Dasco Ltd.</pre>
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From: Gianni Mariani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: buying a linux box -- advice?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 04:19:29 GMT
go to www.pricewatch.com and shop around
As a guess:
Motherboard - 100MHZ bus - Asus - $90
CPU - K6-2/450 - $220
128MB - ECC PC100 - $200
8.4GB HDD - $150
Case ATX - $60
ATI XPERT@PLAY 8MB - $70
SOUND - AWE64 - $50
Ether - 3COM 905BTX - $60
Modem - $70
Toshiba DVD - $130
Total - $1100
Then again
Cheap MB - $36
K6-2/300 - $51
128MB - NOECC NOPC100 - 140
8.4GB HDD - $150
Case ATX - $60
ATI XPERT@PLAY 8MB - $70
SOUND - AWE64 - $50
CDROM - 32X - $66
Total - $623
And good luck
Buy RH 5.2 and install in 30 mins.
The problem with comparing pre bundled systems is that you
can't really pick and choose. Most of these places give you
a good processor or DVD or somthing and then fill the rest
of the box with difficult to use components.
Of course you will need to factor in shipping so you need to find
no so much the best prices but the place that has the best
overall prices and buy as many components there to reduce the
costs. The case is normally the biggest cost so is you can source
that locally then you end up saving a big chunk.
www.dynastyexpress.com seems to always come up on my radar
screen when I use the best overall filter. It's a bummer it's in AL
'cause it takes 5 days on UPS ground to get here.
I've used micro-xpress, advanced pc hardware in the past - no probs.
The other thing to be careful about is wether you get the "retail" or the
"OEM" package. The retail package usually costs a little more but
you get to participate in the rebates if any.
It can take quite a bit of research to make sure you're getting what
you want.
Paul Gowder wrote:
> Ok, here's a hypothetical situation. (Hypothetical for now...)
> I want to buy a linux box. Red hat, or slackware, or any other major
> version I can trust.
> AMD processor, whatever the good ones are (If you want to know why, see
> http://www.bigbrotherinside.com)
> And I do NOT want to have to buy from a normal oem, pay for windows,
> uninstall windows, install linux, and go through hell.
>
> In fact, I want to just buy a box. Put together, of course. Either 64
> or 128 mg ram, around 8g hd, cheap sound card, cd-rom, monitor. The
> absolute basics.
>
> 1. How much is a reasonable price (by which I mean "cheapest
> possible"), given the lack of any software/perks?
>
> 2. Where can I get preinstalled linux shit? Preferably some actual
> retail location in the Boston MA area, so I can actually walk in and
> ensure I'm not being robbed?
>
> 3. Or is it better to get one online?
>
> 4. Are there any major compatibality issues with AMD?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Gowder
>
> Paul Gowder
> The e-mail address above goes directly to the trash.
> To reach me, e-mail paul at the domain in my from
> field.
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