Linux-Hardware Digest #455, Volume #13           Mon, 21 Aug 00 03:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Configuring HP LaserJet 1100 (Marc Andre Selig)
  Cogent em110tx-pci in an HP vectra VL 5/133 and RH 6.2 not working!! ("Jon")
  Re: Installing 2nd hard disk (Stewart Honsberger)
  XFree86 4.01 in framebuffer mode (TTX)
  external moinitor with inspiron 3200? (Nels Tomlinson)
  Re: Video Card Suggestion for RH6.2 (Artur Leung)
  Re: Cogent em110tx-pci in an HP vectra VL 5/133 and RH 6.2 not working!! (E J)
  CDRecord: mode_select_g1 driving me crazy, HELP ("Rolando J. Nieves")
  Dell 4100 w/ 815E chipset and ATA100 (Peter Teuben)
  Re: nVidia gforce2 & Xfree86-4.0.1 using 126M ram! (Tal Lancaster)
  Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1? (moonie;))
  HELP - Linux reports 16M RAM but I have 128Mb! (Carl Tan)
  Re: HELP - Linux reports 16M RAM but I have 128Mb! (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: IBM PCI Token-Ring Adapter under Linux (Ed Gorman)
  Re: Installing 2nd hard disk ("Peter T. Breuer")

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Subject: Re: Configuring HP LaserJet 1100
From: Marc Andre Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Aug 2000 03:07:32 +0200

salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need assistance to configure HP LaserJet 1100 in linux.

There is really not much to configure.  Most Laserjet drivers work for
the LJ 1100.  What exactly is the problem you are facing?

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From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Cogent em110tx-pci in an HP vectra VL 5/133 and RH 6.2 not working!!
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:58:02 GMT

It's a tier 1 card (Cogent em110 pci) using the tulip driver.  Linux
suggests the following settings for the card:
Module Name: tulip.o
conf.modules: debug=val

I started linuxconf and selected the "tulip" driver for eth0 and then I
could ping the card (before I couldn't do that).  I thought I was good to
go, but I couldn't ping anything else.  I tried putting the line "options
driver debug=val" under the line "alias eth0 tulip" in etc/conf.modules.  No
go. Same thing.  Am I not putting debug=val in the right place?  PLEASE
help!  This is driving me nuts.  It's like I need to tell the card what kind
of media it's on or something?  I can ping the card from the machine it is
in.  If I do "ifconfig eth0" the
addressing looks good:

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:92:2E:D9
inet addr:192.168.0.4 Bcast 192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
everything else is 0 except TX shows errors:9 carrier:18 and txqueuelen:100

Does this tell you anything?  I figured the fact that I can ping the card
from the machine it is in tells me the card is installed correctly and
functioning on some level, it's just misconfigured somehow.  What do you
think?
If I do
"/etc/rc.d/initd/network restart" the interface comes down fine and comes up
fine and the connection light on my hub comes on, and the card seems to
flood the network with packets and then it goes out.  So it's as if it's
trying to communicate, but can't so it quits.  Is this possible?  All it has
is one rj45 port, so it's not trying to communicate on like coax or
something.  Does this ring any bells with anyone??



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:19:34 GMT

On 20 Aug 2000 22:17:27 GMT, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>:>That's the one. The ioctl'll error out unless the drive is completely
>:>dismounted at the time. I couldn't guarrantee it for him at his level
>:>of expertise, so I asked him to reboot, which will ensure that every
>:>partition is dismounted. 
>
>: I'm not even certain that this is correct. Besides the fact that he was
>
>You should be.

How so? You've thus far only told me two extreme cases whereby the software
could fail to do things properly. I demonstrated how FDISK can/will report
if there exists an error condition. On what do you base your statements?

This is the world of Linux - Microsoft mentality should be checked at the
door. We can't let the MS weenies think we're as weak as them now, can we? :>

>: inserting a virgin disk to his machine. IMNSHO, things should be taught
>
>He was, but I was't going to give him a long list of "don't"s. Don't try
>and make one partition, mke2fs it, mount it, then repeat for the rest,
>for example.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Otherwise, you could have worded it thusly;

Partition your disk the way you want it,
mke2fs all the filesystems,
edit fstab and add all newly created filesystems,
(copy data from old filesystems to temp location),
(unmount old filesystems),
mount new filesystems,
copy data to new filesystems,
continue working as if nothing had happened.

That's how I explain it when asked, except that I use somewhat more lengthy
instructions when I do so.

>: correctly from the beginning, rather than giving people the "cop-out"
>: or "band-aid" solution. Linux really doesn't have to be re-booted except
>
>This isn't a cop-out. If he tries your idea on the same disk as he's
>curretly running on, he'll overwrite most of what he's got.

As I said; he was installing a virgin disk and creating all new filesystems.
It's highly doubtful that he would have put his root filesystem on the disk
before even partitioning it.

>:        to  reboot after the use of fdisk.  I do not think this is
>:        the case anymore - indeed,  rebooting  too  quickly  might
>:        cause  loss  of  not-yet-written  data. Note that both the
>
>Now that is impossible, because reboot will cause an umount, which will
>cause a sync.

"rebooting too quickly". It was old convention in the DOS world to tap
the reset button after partitioning your disk. Atleast, that's how I
always did it.

As I said; two differeing mentalities. He should be taught the Linux way
of doing things right from the start.

>: That shouldn't have been neccesary. FDISK quite nicely warns you if it
>: has trouble calling IOCTL to write to the disk, vis;
>
>It does, but I wasn't going to waste my breath telling him what to do
>in case it says so.

It told me quite clearly what to do in that case. Quote left intact;

>: Reboot your system to ensure the partition table is updated.

Sounds pretty plain to me. :>

>: No damage was done, and my system continues to function without any hiccups.
>
>It's only luck. Changing a partition size and then mke2fs'ing it would
>have resulted in mke2fs using the old partition size and position. That
>might not have been your intention.

He wasn't altering partitions, but instead creating them from scratch. Focus.

I'm not saying your suggestion was neccesarily wrong, just a little overly
cautious. I've performed filesystem maintenance on running servers, so I
know how well Linux can handle filesystem creation/alterations. It's one
of the strengths of Linux - drives can be created and removed without the
connected user(s) ever even seeing a hiccup.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test6

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TTX)
Subject: XFree86 4.01 in framebuffer mode
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 02:27:13 GMT



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From: Nels Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: external moinitor with inspiron 3200?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:45:22 -0500

Hi,

I'm trying to use an external monitor with an Inspiron 3200, running
Mandrake 6.1.  Linux works great on this little box ( better than
windows), and this is the first problem I've had.  

The symptoms are: when I boot, I get the boot messages on the LCD and
the external monitor, as called for in the BIOS settings.  When the
thing is done booting and switches to X, I loose the signal to the
external monitor.  I am supposed to be able to hit Function F8 to toggle
between external, LCD, and both.  This doesn't seem to be working under
Linux.  I'm guessing that I need to do something to the X86config file,
but what?  Has anyone already solved this?

Thanks,
Nels Tomlinson
-- 
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From: Artur Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Card Suggestion for RH6.2
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:01:29 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi James,

     Thanks for your information.  May I ask you why the Xpert@Play is a
better choice?  I went to ATI's web site and it seemed to me that the
Xpert@Play is an older technology than the Xpert 128, and the Xpert@Play has
been discontinued.

Artur
8.19.2000

James Richard Tyrer wrote:

> Artur Leung wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> >      I am in the progress of putting together a RH6.2 machine and would
> > like to get some suggestions on the selection of a video card.  I have a
>
>
> ATI cards are a good choice if you don't intend to use them for gaming.
> The Charger series, which is intended for OEM, is available with either 4
> Mbytes (which I have) or 8 Mbytes in the $30 to $40 price range.  If you
> want to watch TV, then it would appear you should by something better such
> as the Xpert@Play.
>
> JRT


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Cogent em110tx-pci in an HP vectra VL 5/133 and RH 6.2 not working!!
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:04:09 -0700

Go to the manufacturer's website.
My friend has a SOHO network card.
Linux also suggested the following settings for the card: tulip.o
After trying several times, we went to the SOHO website, www.sohoware.com.
We found that they had the source code to recompile for their network card.
Hint:  If you find the recompile instruction, cut and paste from the
documentation,
the recompile is very long and complicated and prone to typo's


Jon wrote:

> It's a tier 1 card (Cogent em110 pci) using the tulip driver.  Linux
> suggests the following settings for the card:
> Module Name: tulip.o
> conf.modules: debug=val
>
> I started linuxconf and selected the "tulip" driver for eth0 and then I
> could ping the card (before I couldn't do that).  I thought I was good to
> go, but I couldn't ping anything else.  I tried putting the line "options
> driver debug=val" under the line "alias eth0 tulip" in etc/conf.modules.  No
> go. Same thing.  Am I not putting debug=val in the right place?  PLEASE
> help!  This is driving me nuts.  It's like I need to tell the card what kind
> of media it's on or something?  I can ping the card from the machine it is
> in.  If I do "ifconfig eth0" the
> addressing looks good:
>
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:92:2E:D9
> inet addr:192.168.0.4 Bcast 192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> everything else is 0 except TX shows errors:9 carrier:18 and txqueuelen:100
>
> Does this tell you anything?  I figured the fact that I can ping the card
> from the machine it is in tells me the card is installed correctly and
> functioning on some level, it's just misconfigured somehow.  What do you
> think?
> If I do
> "/etc/rc.d/initd/network restart" the interface comes down fine and comes up
> fine and the connection light on my hub comes on, and the card seems to
> flood the network with packets and then it goes out.  So it's as if it's
> trying to communicate, but can't so it quits.  Is this possible?  All it has
> is one rj45 port, so it's not trying to communicate on like coax or
> something.  Does this ring any bells with anyone??


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From: "Rolando J. Nieves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDRecord: mode_select_g1 driving me crazy, HELP
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:04:30 GMT

Seems that CDRecord works on my drive all the way up to the point when
it is finishing up. I've walked through the code as much as I could, and
this is the part where CDRecord barfs. Seems to be a problem with ATAPI
drives, since on real drives (according to the source code) the correct
command to send would be mode_select_g0. Don't ask me what they mean
because I don't have a CD-RW programming book handy :). Does anybody
else see failures with this SCSI command on CDRecord? I've tried all
versions, recompiling, compiling older kernels (2.2.13). Nothing works!
My drive is a Ricoh 6200A (IDE/ATAPI).

Thanks for your help.

Rolando.


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From: Peter Teuben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dell 4100 w/ 815E chipset and ATA100
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:31:26 -0400


Dell introduced their new 4100 series, which comes with an
ATA-100 controller. Their salesforce is not terrribly well
informed, but it seems that the ATA-100 controller is on the
motherboard, which brings up the obvious question how one
can revert back to classic UDMA/33 mode. Or maybe there are
two controllers on the MD.  The 815E chipset specifications
seem to suggest it is one controller, capable of either 
ATA 33/66 or 100, suggesting the BIOS can be configured in
the mode one wants.

So, does anybody have experience with this chipset, and in
particular if the ATA100 is also supported now?

Although Dell is "embracing" linux, they only do this for a limited
set of their hardware. I've had good success with their XPS Dimension
series, but the 4100 is now their replacement.

- peter

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From: Tal Lancaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nVidia gforce2 & Xfree86-4.0.1 using 126M ram!
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:32:12 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland) wrote:
> >> > Now X is up and running.  However it is soaking up all of my
memory
> >> > (from top):
> >> >
> >> > Size  RSS    %CPU  %MEM   COMMAND
> >> > 117M  112M    0.1   875    X
> >> >
>
> Bear in mind that the memory usage reported by top and ps include the
> graphics card's video ram. If you have something like a 64MB graphics
card
> on 64MB system you could get silly memory usage reports for X (running
3D
> stuff on my voodoo3 I've been told I have two apps using 54% of memory
and
> that's not including X ;).
>
> But 875 is a tad big. 87.5 should it have been? That would seem about
right
> for a big card on a smallish system.
>

The graphics card has 32MB of RAM.  The system 256M RAM.  And top really
is giving me 875% which doesn't make any sense.


> Frinky
>
> --
> John Bland MPhys(Hons) GradInstP  Webmaster and Sys Admin.
> http://ringtail.cmp.liv.ac.uk/      Condensed Matter Group
> Email: j.bland at liv.ac.uk           Liverpool University
>  "And it can suck a monkey through 30ft of garden hose!!"
>

--
Tal Lancaster
The RenderMan Repository (http://www.renderman.org/RMR/)


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Before you buy.

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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:07:12 -0400

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Andrew N. McGuire  wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, moonie and UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTERmooniequoth:
>
>~~ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:52:18 -0400
>~~ From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>~~ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.hardware,
>~~     comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup
>~~ Followup-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake, comp.os.linux.hardware,
>~~     comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup
>~~ Subject: Re: Which verison of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?
>~~ 
>~~ On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Gerardo wrote:
>~~ >Which version of X Free 86 is in Mandrake 7.1?  Is Xfree 86 4.0 available in
>~~ >any distribution?
>~~ >
>~~ >Thanks,
>~~ >Gerardo
>~~ >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>~~ 
>~~ Both XFree86 4.0, and 3.3.6 are in M 7.1.  I believe to use 4.0 you have to do
>~~ an expert install.
>
>Good thing I marked my previous response with "could be wrong" huh? :-)
>
>Regards,
>

Even I find it hard to be right all the time (don't tell my kids) lol ;)
--
moonie ;)

Registered Linux User #175104

KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Stripped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)


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From: Carl Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP - Linux reports 16M RAM but I have 128Mb!
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:10:51 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi everyone

This message was posted previsously in .setup, but maybe someone here
mught have a similar experience as me.

i managed to get debian with 2.0.38 installed on an AMD K6-2 450 with
128Mb RAM (64MB PC100 DIMM each, one Siemens, the other Kingston).

I am running nicely in X and enlightenment now.

However, whenever I check xosview or dmesg I get a report of ONLY 13MB
RAM! How do I get Linux to recognise all of my DIMM memory? The hard
disk seems to be swapping a whole lot. That is understandable, given
that the RAM used was only 16 Mb.

I was told to put

append = "mem=128M"

in my etc/lilo.conf. I have done that but it does not seem to have
worked.

Questions here:
1. Is this a kernel compile option I have to choose?
2. Is there a problem with my BIOS setup?
3. Must a use a newer kernel?

Hope you can help. Thanks a lot.



Regards
Carl Tan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Subject: Re: HELP - Linux reports 16M RAM but I have 128Mb!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:19:28 GMT

Carl Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<snip>
> I was told to put
> 
> append = "mem=128M"
> 
> in my etc/lilo.conf. I have done that but it does not seem to have
> worked.

Did you *run* 'lilo' after you made this change?

> 
> Questions here:
> 1. Is this a kernel compile option I have to choose?
> 2. Is there a problem with my BIOS setup?
> 3. Must a use a newer kernel?
<snip>

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Ed Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM PCI Token-Ring Adapter under Linux
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:27:26 -0400

Matthias Lenhardt wrote:

> Hi to all,
> I have problems to install the IBM PCI Token-Ring Adapter under Linux.
> the olympic.o module is successfully loaded, but I can't properly
> configure it with ifconfig. I looked at the Linux Token Ring Project,
> but found no specific help to that topic.
>
> My System: SuSE Linux 6.4 (kernel 2.2.14)
>
> lsmod output:
> Module                  Size  Used by
> olympic                13808   0
> (unused)
> ...
>
> ifconfig output:
> gorchfock:~ # ifconfig tr0 172.51.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
> 172.51.1.255 up
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output
> error
>
> dmesg output:
> ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
> ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
> ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
> ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
> ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
> ibmtr: register_trdev() returned non-zero.
> Olympic.c v0.2.1 1/10/00 - Peter De Schrijver & Mike Phillips
> tr0: IBM PCI tokenring card. I/O at 6500, MMIO at c4829000, LAP at
> c482b000, using irq 10
> Olympic: 1 IBM PCI Token Ring card(s) found in system.
> tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function Failure
> tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function Failure
> tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function Failure
> tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> tr0: SRB timed out.
> SISR=0
> MISR=8000
>
> /var/log/messages:
> Jul 28 11:39:40 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> Jul 28 11:39:55 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function
> Failure
> Jul 28 11:40:11 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> Jul 28 11:40:26 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function
> Failure
> Jul 28 11:57:58 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> Jul 28 11:58:14 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function
> Failure
> Jul 28 11:58:29 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Retrying at different ring speed
> Jul 28 11:58:45 gorchfock kernel: tr0: Lobe Media Test - Function
> Failure
>
> Adapter LEDs:
> Amber Blinking
> Green Off
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Matthias
>
> --
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> Matthias Lenhardt - Software Ingenieur
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> InoNet Computer GmbH
>     http://www.inonet.com/
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>     Tel. +49 (0)89 666096-41
> LinuX is like a wigwam:
> no windows, no gates, apache inside!
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The PCI TR card won't work.  Tried it.  Did find the auto 16/4 ISA works
nicely.  You will need to use the LANaid disk to view the irq on it and
set it in Linuxconf.  You will also need to use the ibmtr.o module for the
driver.  I'm running Redhat 6.0 and the NIC runs nicely.


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd hard disk
Date: 21 Aug 2000 06:57:01 GMT

In comp.os.linux.help Stewart Honsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 20 Aug 2000 22:17:27 GMT, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
:>:>That's the one. The ioctl'll error out unless the drive is completely
:>:>dismounted at the time. I couldn't guarrantee it for him at his level
:>:>of expertise, so I asked him to reboot, which will ensure that every
:>:>partition is dismounted. 
:>
:>: I'm not even certain that this is correct. Besides the fact that he was
:>
:>You should be.

: How so? You've thus far only told me two extreme cases whereby the software
: could fail to do things properly. I demonstrated how FDISK can/will report

That's enough. But the cases aren't extreme. It's "any partition on the
disk being already mounted". 

: if there exists an error condition. On what do you base your statements?

On precisely that. Is there anything to argue about here?

: This is the world of Linux - Microsoft mentality should be checked at the
: door. We can't let the MS weenies think we're as weak as them now, can we? :>

I certainly don't mind not rebooting in this case. I simply decided it
was more than the 60s worth of typing I was prepared to devote to give
him exact and dire warnings about how to avoid it and to tell him how
to cope if by mistake he evoked a refused ioctl. Sure, you and I can
avoid rebooting, but to make _sure_ (blind, at long distance) that the
partition table is reread I felt it best to tell him to reboot. 

: Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Otherwise, you could have worded it thusly;

: Partition your disk the way you want it,

At this point the kernel should reread the partition table.

: mke2fs all the filesystems,
: edit fstab and add all newly created filesystems,
: (copy data from old filesystems to temp location),

This is dangerous. He might try and put it somwhere strange or not
notice overflow (disk full) conditions.

: (unmount old filesystems),
: mount new filesystems,
: copy data to new filesystems,
: continue working as if nothing had happened.

You have to add riders about not changing his mind after partitioning
and mke2fs'ing and mounting and going back for some more, but I agree,
this is as foolproof as one can reasonably get.

: That's how I explain it when asked, except that I use somewhat more lengthy
: instructions when I do so.

:>: correctly from the beginning, rather than giving people the "cop-out"
:>: or "band-aid" solution. Linux really doesn't have to be re-booted except
:>
:>This isn't a cop-out. If he tries your idea on the same disk as he's
:>curretly running on, he'll overwrite most of what he's got.

: As I said; he was installing a virgin disk and creating all new filesystems.
: It's highly doubtful that he would have put his root filesystem on the disk
: before even partitioning it.

Novices are geniuses :-).

: He wasn't altering partitions, but instead creating them from scratch. Focus.

A novice can change his mind too!

: I'm not saying your suggestion was neccesarily wrong, just a little overly
: cautious. I've performed filesystem maintenance on running servers, so I

It pays to be overly cautious if you have a real system. (That's also
a good habit ;-).  I'm not sure that I'd omit a reboot step myself, btw,
because I like to see the kernel reading the table at bootup.  At least
I'd see if it interpreted the table the same way I had. That's good
info to have.

: know how well Linux can handle filesystem creation/alterations. It's one
: of the strengths of Linux - drives can be created and removed without the
: connected user(s) ever even seeing a hiccup.

Yes, of course.

Peter

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    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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