Linux-Hardware Digest #483, Volume #13           Sat, 26 Aug 00 23:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  SanDisk parallel ImageMate + Linux ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility (Murray Eisenberg)
  Re: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility (Vivien Milat)
  Re: ethernet - device not found (Ruediger Arp)
  sound card problems (Riaz)
  Re: athlon system disk speed (Joel Beach)
  Aztech 3011 pnp modem/soundcard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility (Scott L)
  scsi bus resets with aic7xxx (vlado)
  Wow!  Great Memory Prices on All Types of Memory! 70964814 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: yet another scsi problem (YASP) ("D. Stimits")
  problems with 3Com56voicemodemfax modem (asage)
  Re: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility (Vivien Milat)
  Re: Promise ATA100 ("Jason Souder")
  IBM T20/A20 ThkPd: mini-PCI Ethernet 100/10Mbps... supported? (John Hovell)
  Re: Partition Size Advice (John Beardmore)
  Promise w/ very large drives? (Sean LeBlanc)
  Re: New kernel, Promise 66 PCI, and 2 3c509's (Sean LeBlanc)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SanDisk parallel ImageMate + Linux ?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:10:14 GMT

Hello all!

I'm trying to get a SanDisk ImageMate flash card reader,
parallel port version, working under Linux, and having
little luck.

I know about the SanDisk USB reader that is supposed to work
with Linux, but I got the parallel one for compatibility
with an older non-USB W*nd*z* box.  It worked just fine with
that machine, but I'm having trouble with it on my Linux box.
I bought the reader about two weeks ago.

The reader specs (from the label) are:
SanDisk ImageMate
Part No. SDDR-01
Serial No. SD99114505426
Made in Taiwan
Approvals: VCCI, FCC, CE, (check mark) N532
Shuttle Connects

That last wording and logo made me hopeful.  I opened it up
(peel back the end of the sticker closest to the cord to
reveal one Philips-head screw) to find a small circuit board,
about 7cm x 6cm.  There is a 1.5 cm x 2 cm SMT chip labelled
SHUTTLE TECHNOLOGY EP1234-01 9927D .  The circuit board is
labelled WHALE-CFII  SCM Microsystems  Rev 3.1  AUG 1999 .
It has no "eject" button for the flash card; you just pull
it out with your fingers.

I have been trying to use the paride device drivers, since
they mention compatibility with the Shuttle chips used in
some parallel->IDE external devices.  I have tried both the
pd (IDE disk) and pf (ATAPI disk) drivers with no success.

The reader has two LEDs, a green "power" one and an orange
"activity" one.  When used with W*nd*z*, the orange one
blinks dimly at about 1 Hz whether a card is installed or
not.  When a flash card is put in, the orange one lights
up brightly for a moment, and a "SanDisk" drive icon appears
in Explorer.  When you are transferring data to or from the
flash card, the orange LED also lights brightly, just like
the "activity light" on a standard rotating-media IDE or
SCSI hard disk.

When the pd and pf drivers do their autoprobes at boot time,
I do get a bright orange light for a moment, but then the
drivers say they haven't found anything.  I have tried
manually forcing the drivers to use a specific port address
(0x378) and protocol (both EPAT and EPIA) with boot-time
paramaters, but I have had no luck.

I compiled the paride drivers into the kernel (2.2.12-20,
RedHat 6.1).  I also have the regular printer drivers, and
the Iomega PPA driver.  I have tried using the SanDisk
reader both with and without the Zip drive attached, which
doesn't make any difference.  When the Zip drive is
attached, the PPA driver does find it and uses 32-bit EPP
mode.  I have also successfully printed to an old dot-matrix
printer (Panasonic KXP-1123) through this port, so I think
the port hardware is OK.  I have used the SanDisk reader
on a W*nd*z* box both before and after trying it on my
Linux box, and it worked fine both times, so I don't think
the reader is faulty.

As I mentioned, I'm running RedHat 6.1, kernel 2.2.12-20.
I compiled the paride drivers into the kernel (I use very
few modules in my setup.)  Hardware is a Gateway 2000
Intel Aladdin motherboard, which used to have a P5-100,
but now has an Evergreen AMD K6-400 upgrade, including
the Evergreen-supplied MR BIOS.  I'm using the parallel
port on the motherboard, not an add-in card.  Other devices
in the system include an WD 1GB IDE hard disk, Mitsumi
4x IDE CD-ROM, Adaptec AHA1520 SCSI card with HP 2x
SCSI CD-ROM, Colorado floppy-tape drive, Sound Blaster 16
ISA, and ATI Mach64 PCI video.  The system has 64MB RAM.
All of these devices have been working fine...the only
change I've made is to add the SanDisk reader.

Has anyone gotten this device to work under Linux?  Am
I on the right track with the paride drivers or should
I use something else?

Any information or pointers would be very much appreciated.
Thanks!!

Matt Roberds
matt.roberds at worldnet.att.net

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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:19:50 -0400
From: Murray Eisenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Subject: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility

I'm considering a Dell Dimension 4100 system that will dual-boot Windows
2000 and Linux.  Components include:

  32 MB nVidia GeForce AGB graphics card
  SoundBlaster Live! Value Digital

Are these supported by Linux? 

Are any of the other, fancier, graphics cards supported by Linux (32MB
DDR nVidia GeForce2 GTS 4X AGP, 64 MB DDR nVidia GeForce2 AGP)?  I ask
this because the NVidia web site just lists a driver for "GeForce" but
doesn't list all these fancier ones.

Are there any other Linux compatibility issues of which I should be
aware.  (Note that I'll get the generic CD-ROm with the system and
immediately replace it with an existing HP CD-Writer Plus 8110i which,
at least just as a CD-ROM is supported by Linux.)

-- 
Murray Eisenberg                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mathematics & Statistics Dept.       phone 413 549-1020 (H)
Univ. of Massachusetts                     413 545-2859 (W)
Amherst, MA 01003-4515

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From: Vivien Milat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Subject: Re: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:49:39 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> I'm considering a Dell Dimension 4100 system that will dual-boot Windows
> 2000 and Linux.  Components include:
> 
>   32 MB nVidia GeForce AGB graphics card
>   SoundBlaster Live! Value Digital
> 
> Are these supported by Linux? 
> 
> Are any of the other, fancier, graphics cards supported by Linux (32MB
> DDR nVidia GeForce2 GTS 4X AGP, 64 MB DDR nVidia GeForce2 AGP)?  I ask
> this because the NVidia web site just lists a driver for "GeForce" but
> doesn't list all these fancier ones.

The nVidia drivers are pretty much universal; even under Windows there's 
only one driver for most of their cards, so I'd imagine it's the same 
under Linux. 

The SB Live may not be ideal; IIRC, there's a binary-only driver of some 
kind floating around, but... 
Does Dell offer only the SB Live and the Turtle Beaches these days?

> Are there any other Linux compatibility issues of which I should be
> aware.  (Note that I'll get the generic CD-ROm with the system and
> immediately replace it with an existing HP CD-Writer Plus 8110i which,
> at least just as a CD-ROM is supported by Linux.)

I think Linux supports ALL IDE CD-ROMs, so I'd suggest you keep the CD-
ROM drive and install the CD Writer in the other bay. 

Vivien
-- 
Vivien Milat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ 4445675
Vivien's World - http://vivienm.is.dreaming.org/

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From: Ruediger Arp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ethernet - device not found
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:06:30 GMT

Hi Peter,

do the modules (for eth0 & scsi) load correctly after this upgrade?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Am 27.08.00, 00:32:23, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) zum=20
Thema ethernet - device not found:


> I just a hardware rebuild/upgrade, now the ethernet card is not visibl=
e.
> I popped off the top and it seems to be connected correctly.  If I
> try a ifconfig ethernet...   I get a message:

>       eth0: unknown interface: No such device

> dmesg | grep eth0 produces nothing.

> Is there any chance that this is NOT a hardware problem? It is a NE200=
0
> compatible of the name "delta" I believe, it is about 3 years old.

> Any advice?

> Thanks

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From: Riaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound card problems
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:29:17 GMT

I have installed linux Mandraqe vesion on my pc. It is running brilliantly
and evrything is configured. But the problem is that my sound card is not
working. It has picked up CMI cmi 18330/c3d Audio Adapter which is right
because its works on my windows 95 dual boot up.

I think that during my Linux installtion It selected my sound driver and I
made it detect it again my mistake. THats why its messed it.

How can I redetect it or reinstall or? It will not let me do this because
it says devise or resource busy, especally when I test it through
Drakeconfig.

Thanks

Riaz

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From: Joel Beach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: athlon system disk speed
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:47:49 GMT

Alan Needleman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have AMD Athlon Linux system (750 MHz, original slot A)  that uses the
> AMD-75x chipset. The speed is excellent except for the disk speed
> because the kernel I am running 2.2.16 seems to only support pio modes
> for this chipset. I want to improve the disk speed but I don't want to
> recompile the kernel. Will this chipset be supported in the 2.4.x series
> of kernels? If so, I can probably wait for that to be released. Another
> possibility is getting a Promise UDMA 33 controller which I believe is
> supported in the 2.2 kernels (a quick look seemed to indicate that they
> are hard to find). Any leads on where to get one would be appreciated as
> would any suggestions on what route to take.

It is safe to use DMA and 32-bit I/O....

As root just type:

/sbin/hdparm -d 1 -c 32 /dev/hdx, where x is a,b,c (the name of the
harddrive)

Just put this somewhere in the startup....  (maybe /etc/rc.local for
redhat/mandrake)

This is a hack, but it'll work.....

Joel

>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Aztech 3011 pnp modem/soundcard
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:52:03 GMT

I have an aztech 3011 isa pnp modem/soundcard.  I know that it isn't a
winmodem.  Does anyone have this card or have any info to help me get
it working?  I have tried many different thing to get it to work with no
luck.  At least I have the sound working (kind of).  I get a kind of
scratch sound for just a bit every couple of second.  It is really
annoying.  I don't have the sound card enabled with isapnptools.  I just
did sndconfig and installed the soundblaster 16 module and it worked.
Any suggestions.  I read somewhere that I should set the bios up to not
configure the isa pnp cards.  How can I do this?  I have an Award bios.
 I know how to get into the bios but would that work?  Thanks


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Subject: Re: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:24:44 -0700

On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:19:50 -0400, Murray Eisenberg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm considering a Dell Dimension 4100 system that will dual-boot Windows
>2000 and Linux.  Components include:
>
>  32 MB nVidia GeForce AGB graphics card
This will work with Linux, I believe.

>  SoundBlaster Live! Value Digital
The drivers for this model are existent, just not very good. The
drivers are 9 months old and are still considered a beta copy.

>Are these supported by Linux? 
>
>Are any of the other, fancier, graphics cards supported by Linux (32MB
>DDR nVidia GeForce2 GTS 4X AGP, 64 MB DDR nVidia GeForce2 AGP)?  I ask
>this because the NVidia web site just lists a driver for "GeForce" but
>doesn't list all these fancier ones.
Linux should work with all of the listed Nvidia Geforce and Geforce 2
products. I cannot back that one up, though.

>Are there any other Linux compatibility issues of which I should be
>aware.
If you get a DVD-ROM drive with software decoding for WinME, you won't
be able to play DVDs under Linux unless you get some decoder. Vivien
Milat says there aren't any offical ones available, yet.

Also, obviously you won't be able to play many games under Linux
without VMware, or in some cases WINE. You'll have to boot into
Windows to do all of that.

>  (Note that I'll get the generic CD-ROm with the system and
>immediately replace it with an existing HP CD-Writer Plus 8110i which,
>at least just as a CD-ROM is supported by Linux.)



--
Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: vlado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: scsi bus resets with aic7xxx
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:17:54 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I've run up on a "cute" problem with receiving scsi bus resets under
heavy load.
Please help me or give me a hint at least how to solve the followng
cutie :(


Actually the error is :
============
Aug 22 13:25:30 perun kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 269474, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Write (10) 00 01 0e 1a 98 00
00 80 00
Aug 22 13:25:30 perun kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 269475, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Write (10) 00 01 0e 1b 18 00
00 80 00
Aug 22 13:25:30 perun kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
pid 269476, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Write (10) 00 01 0e 1b 98 00
00 80 00
Aug 22 13:25:31 perun kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 269475) timed out -

resetting
Aug 22 13:25:31 perun kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel

0.
Aug 22 13:25:34 perun kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 40.0
Mbyte/sec, offset 16.
============ from   /var/log/messages

It is definitely not a problem with a specific kernel as I the error
persists on kernels 2.2.14-16 with several different aic7xxx patches.
It's not a distro error either both RH and Debian were tested, if anyone

starts doubting about this.

the error is received during the following test script:

-- test script --------
#!/bin/bash
/opt/home/tiobench-0.3.1/tiobench.pl --dir /group --block 2048 --block
204800 --threads 1  --threads 100  --threads 200 --size 1500
2>spectrum.err | tee spectrum.log
==========

the exact location is on the 204800B block size with 1 thread run.

Ok. I understand that ithis is overkill, but  I need a robust system -
so  this is part of the testing process.

Since I don't have the sufficient knowledge and information to start
tampering with the  scsi codes/erorrs and I don't have a similar
hardware to run equivalent tests on it I can't identify the source of
the error :

    - kernel/aic7xxx driver bug ?
    - hardware (scsi controller) error ?
    - cabling error sources are eliminated by several ( 5 ) tests with
different cables, overall bus length is under 2m.
    - the "HD" error /buggy firmware chance is quite low - this is a
second box of this type I'm testing (with different firmware vers.
though )

Hardware details
============
Motherboard - ASUS P2B-DS SCPI Rev1012
                           Award bios v4.51p6
                          with onboard Adaptec 7890 bios v.2.11

"HD"    - ZERO-D  400 IDE-RAID  system, firmware v.2.2W

Thanks,
Vlado


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.ibm.pc.net,comp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware
Subject: Wow!  Great Memory Prices on All Types of Memory! 70964814
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:38:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Think its time for you to buy?

Fast And Easy ...

http://www.onlineshopping2000.com/ngmemory/





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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:52:09 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: yet another scsi problem (YASP)

Is the drive terminated correctly?

"Larry K. Brown" wrote:
> 
> I have a SuperMicro P6DGU dual Pentuim III 800 mhz board
> with built in Adaptec 7890 SCSI controller (Same as 2940).  It works fine
> with
> a 2G ultra HD running Redhat 6.1 but when I add a 18 G
> Seagate Ultra2/ Ultra 160 harddrive it hangs on boot.
> 
> I can boot with Partition Magic 5.0 and partition Linux ext2 and
> format without problems.  And I can also do a bios scan for bad sectors.
> 
> But Redhad 6.1 hangs on loading the aic7xxx driver if this drive is present,
> when it hits this
> drive and loops trying it over and over.
> Message is "Host 0 Abort (PID 2) timed out- resetting"
> then resets on the SCSI bus occur over and over at about a 5 second
> rate.
> 
> My drive has an external LVD terminator.
> 
> John Mamer wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >    I have a new external seagate ST318436LW  (18GB) connected to my
> > Adaptec AHA2940U/UW controller.  The bios sees the disk drive, but linux
> > can't get to it during the boot.  I keep getting the message
> > "Host 0 Abort (PID 4) timed out- resetting" over and over.  I've used
> > the controller successfully with my Jaz drive.  I've removed everything
> > from the SCSI bus, manually set the card termination to "on" (both low
> > half and high half) and put a hardware terminator on the external
> > drive.  I'm suspecting either the cable or the terminator, but would
> > greatly appreciate advice.
> >
> > thank you
> > john

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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with 3Com56voicemodemfax modem
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:16:23 -0400

I think I may have seen this problem in here before, but I can't find it
again...  I've installed this modem and been able to connect (using Bill
Unruh's great instructions).  The problem is that the line won't stay
connected.  It only stays connected for a half minute at a time.  My ISP
says that the problem may be a faulty modem, but I was using the modem
before in Windows without any trouble.

This modem uses jumpers, which I've set, and as I mentioned, I have used
the commands outlined in the 'Howto', as well as using the setserial
command.

It's kind of annoying, because I have still have to rely on connecting
from within Windows.  Any help would be really appreciated!

TIA

Allison Sage



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From: Vivien Milat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Subject: Re: Dell 4100 Linux-compatibility
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:23:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:19:50 -0400, Murray Eisenberg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are there any other Linux compatibility issues of which I should be
> >aware.
> If you get a DVD-ROM drive with software decoding for WinME, you won't
> be able to play DVDs under Linux unless you get some decoder. Vivien
> Milat says there aren't any offical ones available, yet.

See www.opendvd.org or something... I think it'll explain why a normal 
Linux DVD decoder won't be around for a while...

Vivien

-- 
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Vivien's World - http://vivienm.is.dreaming.org/

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From: "Jason Souder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise ATA100
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:21:40 -0700

Which patch do we need for the ata 100 and where is it located? I looked on
his website and did not see it. Also, I am new to this....how do I
run/install the patch.

Thanks,
Jason

"Markus Kossmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Simon St-Onge wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I recently bought a Duron with an A7V motherboard,
> > here are a few problem i have had so far (i'm using RH 6.2):
> > - When recompiling the kernel to get rid of the CPUID problem, gcc has
> > crashed multiple times, even making the kernel panic. I eventually got
to
> > compile the whole kernel and modules.
>
> That looks like a hardware problem :-( . Maybe memory. Did you read the
> Sig11 FAQ
> ( http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11) ?
>
> > - Now I'm trying to access the disks which are connected to the seconth
ide
> > controller (Promise ATA100). But linux doesnt seem to detect any thing.
I
> > tryed forcing the detection with some kernel parameters (ide1=...)
without
> > any success.
>
> "ide1=" is definitely wrong, because this is the second channel of your
> first IDE-controller. Try the recipe from the UDMA-Mini-Howto (
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA.html) :
>
>        If we can access the console with the installation disk, we can
> also
>        use "cat /proc/pci" to display the Promise interface settings:
>
>            RAID bus interface: Promise Technology Unknown device (rev
> 1).
>              Vendor id=105a. Device id=4d33.
>              Medium devsel.  IRQ 12.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
>              I/O at 0xe000.   (a)
>              I/O at 0xd804.   (b)
>              I/O at 0xd400.   (c)
>              I/O at 0xd004.   (d)
>              I/O at 0xc800.   (e)
>
>        and pass "ide2=a,b+2 ide3=c,d+2" as a command line parameter to
> the kernel.
>
> If you build a new kernel , you might want to patch it with Andre
> Hedrick IDE Patches  (from http://www.linux-ide.org/)  , which adds
> specific support for that controler to the kernel.
>
>
> --
> Markus Kossmann
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: IBM T20/A20 ThkPd: mini-PCI Ethernet 100/10Mbps... supported?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:27:19 GMT

Hello all...

I am wondering if anyone has had experience or luck getting the on-board
mini-PCI Ethernet/56k modem combo cards to work on Linux.

They are supposedly the Intel Pro 100 chipset (made by 3com (!?))... I
don't get it but this is what the product info says.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knows of drivers for Linux.  I
haven't bought the system yet, but am definitely considering it.  The
sell the same system with Caldera Open Linux eDesktop 2.4... and with
the PCI card as an option... I just don't know if that's a mistake on
the web site.

I am still looking for a part #, but they are either sold as under IBM,
3com, or "Intel chipset"... but all the _exact_ same card or so I am
told.

Also, I don't know if the 56K modem is hardware or a Winmodem, but it's
gotta be hardware if they support it under NT 4.0, right??

Any help, pointers to info would be much appreciated... BTW, to be sure
its mini-pci -- on board not Cardbus or PCMCIA or anything else like
that.

TiA...

Cheers,
John



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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:19:05 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes

>> Are there any defragmentation tools for Linux ?
>
>Yes.  But you don't need them.  You'd have to work quite hard to get
>an ext2 filesystem fragmented enough to notice the slowdown.  Cleaning
>the lint out of your mouse is a bigger problem than fragmentation in
>Linux filesystems.
>
>Just because Windows does some really stupid things is no reason to
>expect any other OS to do them.  Robust, fast filesystems have been a
>solved problem for decades.  Microsoft chose to ignore the widely
>published solutions and research, and has been slapping Band-Aids on
>the DOS filesystem without ever replacing it.  They do know better;
>NTFS is decent.

Not really.  I can fragment the hell out of NTFS by running a drive
nearly full in no time flat, and products like Diskeeper do a damn fine
job of unpicking the mess if you make enough space and defragment at
boot time.

I don't think there's any such thing as an unfragmentable file system,
but I'd welcome learned opinion...


>[1]  Just to further complicate matters, the PC DMA hardware can only
>access the lowest 16MB of memory.  The ISA bus can only access the
>lowest 1MB.

I think not !!  Lowest 16 meg I think !  At least, I have a 286 mobo
here with 11 meg of RAM, 2 on the mobo and 9 on ISA expansion cards.

Run '95 OK with a TI 486 SLC upgrade processor !


>  This is reason enough to rid of the ISA bus - bad
>hardware design causes software complications.  The X86 is bad enough
>without crippling it further.

Let's not even think about its interrupt handling !


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

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Subject: Promise w/ very large drives?
From: Sean LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:50:29 GMT

I have a drive larger than 33.8 gig...I didn't realize
that a drive larger than that would be problematic, so I
got 2.2.16 working, then the fdisk and mke2fs did not work
properly, so I did some RTFM'ing...I'm still not sure the
action I should take...I got a 2.4.x kernel, patched it
with IDE stuff to see Promise Card, and then compiled,
and tried that kernel - well, after decompressing the
kernel, the boot process appeared to seize up. I just
want this new hard drive to be added to my linux as it
is (well, new kernel anyway, but I don't want to boot
from this large drive in other words).

Here's the specs:

Promise 66 PCI card
Western Digital WD450AA (45 gigs)

Is there a patch to see larger hard drives for 2.2.16?
I saw that there is one for older kernels, but I don't
want a kernel that far back, as I won't have Promise
support, either....


Cheers and thanks in advance,
Sean
 

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Subject: Re: New kernel, Promise 66 PCI, and 2 3c509's
From: Sean LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:58:29 GMT


You truly are king of kings. :)

I put the ether options into LILO, and the cards now work.

Only problem now is...drive format doesn't seem to work...
apparently this kernel (as it is, anyway) doesn't support
very large drives (>33.8) so fdisk and mke2fs don't seem
to be working properly...oh well, back to the manuals for
now. I also posted another question about that problem,
as well...but at least I know how to get the cards working
(or next time compile the 3c509 support as a module).

Thanks,
Sean

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:

> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:58:17 GMT, Sean LeBlanc wrote:
> >Wow. Thanks for the quick response. I tried rmmod 3c509, but that didn't
> >find the module - turns out I compiled 3c509 support into kernel, not
> >as a module. Could that be a problem?
> 
> Yep!  If you compile Ethernet support into the kernel, then for more
> than one card to be detected at boot, you must pass the "ether=" options
> to the kernel at boot time.  Kind of like so:
> 
> LILO: linux ether=5,0x210,eth0 ether=3,0x310,eth1
> 
> Because this can be a little clunky, it's usual to compile Ethernet
> stuff as modules.  There's nothing particularly wrong with putting
> things into the kernel; it just makes finding out what's wrong and
> fixing it a bit more difficult sometimes.
> 
> >alias eth0 3c509
> >alias eth1 3c509
> >options 3c509 io=0x210,0x310 irq=5,3
> 
> The io= parameter should be unneccessary for 3c509s.  At least, when I
> put "options 3c509 io=0x380, irq=9" in my conf.modules, attempting to
> load 3c509.o resulted in "invalid parameter" error messages.  Taking out
> the io= made everything work.  Looking at the code, I see the driver
> finds the right I/O range given the IRQ, and doesn't even have a module
> parameter entry for the I/O range.
> 
> >When I do cat /proc/ioports and cat /proc/interrupts, for the
> >new kernel, I see no entry at all for IRQ 3 or base addr 310.
> 
> Entries only appear there when a device module is loaded and/or being used.
> 
> -- 
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
> http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> -----------------------------/           --Henry Spencer

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