Linux-Hardware Digest #27, Volume #14 Thu, 14 Dec 00 05:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: modem busy ("D. Stimits")
Re: Help please (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: printer canon bjc-5100 (Tony Thompson)
Re: Linux for Handhelds? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Thank You ! (shay amar)
Running linux on 486 (sik)
Re: Help please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help please (James Richard Tyrer)
Cable Modem Connecting??? ("Jennifer Sinsley")
Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: Help please (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: Help please (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 2 (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: Thank You ! (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: Running linux on 486 (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: xawtv and SuSE 7 (Valette =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DS=E9bastien?=)
Re: pluy and play modem ("Adam Short")
Re: Running linux on 486 (Matt O'Toole)
Socket 7 board w/ ATA100 for Linux? (Matt O'Toole)
Re: modem driver ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Help adding second hard drive (Keith)
AVA-1515 SCSI install troubles ("Peter de Vroomen")
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:14:39 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: modem busy
Ilya Sterin wrote:
>
> I installed a PCI modem USRobotics pro modem (not winmodem and linux
> compatible). In the hardware configurations the modem shows up
> properly, but when I try to dial out or query the modem it says that
> the modem is busy. When running setserial -g /dev/modem it displays
> IRQ 2 eventhough I try setting to 9. When I set to anything else it
> works but when setting ttyS1 to IRQ 9 and linking to /dev/modem it goes
> back to IRQ 2 ??? But my main concern is how do I get my modem to work?
>
> TIA
> Ilya Sterin
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
Device busy is usually the result of not having the hardware
initialized. IRQ is one of those items, base address is another. You'll
find that the serial port is set separately from the modem, and that the
two must match. For a pci modem, use lspci to view info, along with
/proc/pci. Use setserial without the -g to actually set a port to match
the modem, or else use setpci to set the modem. Note that these all
disappear at reboot, so you might find something and add it to your
rc.local script (there are other places as well). Just for kicks, make
sure your BIOS is set to the operating system "not plug-n-play aware".
One possible setserial:
setserial -v /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0xafe0 irq 9 spd_normal
skip_test
That causes ttyS2 to match a modem with a 16550A uart at irq 9 and base
addres 0xafe0. The contents of /proc/pci should show your device also at
irq 9 and 0xafe0, or else it won't work. Sample:
Bus 1, device 1, function 0:
Serial controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 1).
Vendor id=12b9. Device id=1008.
Medium devsel. IRQ 9.
I/O at 0xafe0 [0xafe1].
That cryptic entry is for a US Robotics PCI modem (which incidentally
has the best performance I've had in modem). Less cryptic is "lspci -v":
01:01.0 Serial controller: US Robotics/3Com 56K FaxModem Model 5610 (rev
01) (prog-if 02 [16550])
Subsystem: US Robotics/3Com: Unknown device 00ad
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
I/O ports at afe0
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
Note though that it lists I/O port 0xafe0 as afe0. IRQ is obvious. This
part at the start:
01:01.0
Corresponds to the /proc/pci entry that says
"Bus 1, device 1, function 0"
Once the I/O port and IRQ of the modem matches that from setserial, it
should work (then there is of course actual modem setup, but the
hardware setup will be complete). Just don't forget that it needs to be
set somewhere to apply again each reboot.
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:28:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Just as a notice, you seem to have posted this article three times,
> with different formatting each time.
I can only find one copy with Netscape Messenger.
And, are we more interested in being the self appointed INTERNET POLICE,
OR, in helping Shay Amar with his hardware problem?
JRT
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From: Tony Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: L
Subject: Re: printer canon bjc-5100
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:28:34 -0700
Jean-Christophe Roche wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a solution to install a canon bjc-5100 printer under
> linux Mandrake 7.1 distribution. I have many problems. I have tested a
> lot of default canon drivers (such as bjc-600, bjc-800, ...) with
> different options, and nothing results ! This printer is working under
> windows (it's no a printer problem).
>
> Had someone install a such printer ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jean-Christophe
This is what is refered to kindly as a lemon. OK, I bought one too for
about $80. It was a waste of money. You can't even get the thing to
network through Windows! It does run on my wifes NT box but the quality
sucks and, since it has not processor or memory of it's own (this is it's
major problem), it hogs the box when printing.
It's sort of like GW Bush: all talk and no substance.
TT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux for Handhelds?
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:01:23 GMT
Dennis J. Tuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have a Handspring Visor. Is there any Linux application that one
: could use to store information from, and send information to a Linux
: visor via a serial port or a usb port?
Look for the USB pilot utilties (the real name eludes me at the moment).
They exist tho, I've used them on my Visor.
--
Jeff Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SEX DRUGS UNIX
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From: shay amar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thank You !
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 03:31:00 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you !
I read all the instruction that you send me to e-mail .
I wonder if you tell me when i can find a hardware developer stuff(
mailing list ....).
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From: sik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running linux on 486
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:15:38 GMT
Hi.. I posted a few days ago about not being able to get linux started
on my old 486 when i installed it on this comp (with cdrom) and
transferred the hd back... i got it to start, but now i've come up
with a problem that i thought i would prob get... i get a kernal panic
becuase it was compiled for a pentium, and i'm trying to run it on a
486.. is there anyway to recompile it without starting it? .. or to
change the kernal on this comp? or is my only option getting a cdrom
and installing it from the 486? .. Thanks for any help!
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Subject: Re: Help please
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Dec 2000 01:18:30 -0500
James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just as a notice, you seem to have posted this article three times,
> > with different formatting each time.
> I can only find one copy with Netscape Messenger.
> And, are we more interested in being the self appointed INTERNET POLICE,
> OR, in helping Shay Amar with his hardware problem?
What is it that makes you feel the two goals are mutually exclusive?
And why do you seem to be having a problem with my desire to help you
point out a possible error or misconfiguration in your newsfeed?
At what point did my notice become something other than polite?
--
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In one gloss of the cut interstellarly I must immovable protect the
universe.
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Subject: Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Dec 2000 01:20:32 -0500
James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I believe his point is that there is _never_ a use for MIME on a
> > non-binary newsgroup.
> Perhaps those of us who have never used a "primative" news reader
> don't really know how they work.
Did I misspell "primitive," then?
> This message is sent in MIME.
Congratulations. You configured your newsreader well enough that I
can't tell without looking at the headers, which I have no desire to
do.
--
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In one gloss of the cut interstellarly I must immovable protect the
universe.
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:22:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We don't object to plain text.
>
> We object to people wrapping plain text in MIME, which is not, by the
> way, plain text.
<SNIP>
There is no difference (between message 1 and message 2) because MIME code only
applies to 8 bit character codes.
Again, "text/plain" is a MIME type. But, MIME encoding doesn't change it because
it is all 7-bit!
<SNIP>
> MIME code.
And, just what is MIME code?
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm?term=quoted+printable+encoding
MIME encoding does not change 7-bit text. It is a method of sending 8-bit
information as 7-bit.
Therefore, you simply can't MIME encode 7-bit text.
JRT
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From: "Jennifer Sinsley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cable Modem Connecting???
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:23:06 GMT
Anyone here on the @Home system?? I just got Slackware 7.1 with the latest
kernel for USB support. My network adapter for @Home is USB. Cany anyone
direct me is getting it to work with Linux? I am stuck in Windows for
internet usage because I also have a winmodem which doesn't work in Linux.
Thanks in advance..
Jennifer
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Subject: Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 2
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Dec 2000 01:23:45 -0500
Two messages now, with fairly significant differences. Are you
sending out cancels that my newsserver is ignoring?
James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I believe his point is that there is _never_ a use for MIME on a
> > non-binary newsgroup.
> Perhaps those of us who have never used a "primative" news reader
> don't really know how they work.
> This message is sent in 8-bit (i.e. NOT MIME)
> Now, someone please explain the difference to us.
I really don't understand your problem. MIME is RFC'd; RTFRFC is you
want to see what the difference is.
I'm not going to reply to this any more; it has nothing to do with
Linux hardware. Reply to me personally if you feel the desire to do
so.
--
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In one gloss of the cut interstellarly I must immovable protect the
universe.
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME?
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:35:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You didn't misspell "primative", I did and my spelling checker didn't
catch it. I hate it when that happens :-).
I quoted it because I was not using the word 'primitive' in a pejorative
sense.
I realize that some people prefer such simple or "primitive" news
readers.
> Congratulations. You configured your newsreader well enough that I
> can't tell without looking at the headers, which I have no desire to
> do.
There is no difference in the headers either. Because, you can't MIME
encode 7-bit text.
JRT
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:43:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At what point did my notice become something other than polite?
I think that it was when you sent the message without checking to see if the
extra postings had been canceled first.
JRT
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:52:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We don't object to plain text.
>
> We object to people wrapping plain text in MIME, which is not, by the
> way, plain text.
<SNIP>
There is no difference (between message 1 and message 2) because MIME
code only
applies to 8 bit character codes.
Again, "text/plain" is a MIME type. But, MIME encoding doesn't change
it because
it is all 7-bit!
<SNIP>
> MIME code.
And, just what is MIME code?
Please look up: MIME, quoted printable encoding, and base64 at:
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia
MIME encoding does not change 7-bit text. It is a method of sending
8-bit
information as 7-bit.
Therefore, you simply can't MIME encode 7-bit text.
OR, you can, but it doesn't make any difference.
JRT
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 2
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:58:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Two messages now, with fairly significant differences. Are you
> sending out cancels that my newsserver is ignoring?
I can't be sure since it is your news reader, but I suspect so.
JRT
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thank You !
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:08:30 GMT
shay amar wrote:
> Thank you !
> I read all the instruction that you send me to e-mail .
> I wonder if you tell me when i can find a hardware developer stuff(
> mailing list ....).
In general, to subscribe to a mailing list, you should go to the home
page of the project who's mailing list you wish to subscribe to.
I realize that this just begs the question. You can use links at one of
the base sites or use a search engine.
You could try:
http://www.linuxhq.com/links.html
They have quite a few links. By, the time you visit all of them, you
should be an expert :-).
JRT
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running linux on 486
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:15:19 GMT
sik wrote:
> Hi.. I posted a few days ago about not being able to get linux started
> on my old 486 when i installed it on this comp (with cdrom) and
> transferred the hd back... i got it to start, but now i've come up
> with a problem that i thought i would prob get... i get a kernal panic
> becuase it was compiled for a pentium, and i'm trying to run it on a
> 486.. is there anyway to recompile it without starting it? .. or to
> change the kernal on this comp? or is my only option getting a cdrom
> and installing it from the 486? .. Thanks for any help!
You have to have a running system to compile a Kernel.
If the Kernel on the CD is compiled for a 586 or 686 it won't work.
Might I suggest that on a 486 that you might want to use Red Hat 5.2 and
FVWM for the window manager.
And, that you will find that using Gnome or KDE may be too much for it.
Too slow.
JRT
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From: Valette =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DS=E9bastien?=
Subject: Re: xawtv and SuSE 7
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:29:43 +0100
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have u got the bttv and tuner modules loaded ?
John Frake wrote:
>
> I cannot get this work. when I start xawtv the TV window appears with
> the welcome screen but once I press enter as requested they both
> disappear leaving he following message:- "Error: Couldn't find per
> display information" . KWINTV works fine but does not offer me the
> option to select composite video. The card is a modern Hauppage. Does
> anyone have any suggestions as to how to get it work. I have tried the
> READMEs and the man pages for xawtv without any success.
> --
> John J. Frake
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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pluy and play modem
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:14:53 -0000
If it is an ISA modem setting it up is quite trivial. You'll need to use
isapnptools to get it running properly. Run "pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf" as
root at a shell prompt and then take a look at the file /etc/isapnp.conf. It
will show you information about your hardware. In there you will find
several possible settings for port and irq, one of them will hopefully
correspond to your modem. If in doubt, I have found that a look in
/proc/ioports will tell you which serial port to use, since there will be
three shown in there, the one that isn't is the one you want.
All you do is uncomment the lines that apply to your modem (there are
further instructions in the file itself), you may need to change the irq
setting from the default in each case (it will tell you which irqs you can
use, mine uses 5). After this save the file and run "isapnp
/etc/isapnp.conf". This will bring up a few lines of information telling you
what has happened. If you get the message "Enabled OK" at the end, you've
done it right. If not then something needs changing somewhere.
The above only needs to be done once, since linux will automatically run
isapnp at startup when there is a .conf file for it to use.
You will probably find that you need to use setserial to correct your port
settings as well. As an example I use "setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 5 uart
16550a". This forces the serial port to comply with the settings for the
modem. You will obviously have to use your own settings for this. This line
needs placing in a startup file somewhere, /etc/rc.d/rc.local should be as
good a place as any. Personally I've cheated and put it in rc.sysinit, right
after the call to isapnp.conf, just to make sure nothing else can mess it
up. This is not really recommended, but I've got away with it so you should
too.
HTH
Adam
Alk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:918rea$3al$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Take a look at your modem and decide what modem you've got - Serial / ISA
/
> WinModem - windoze calls them all Plug/Play
>
> AG
> "Hong Fang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > i use a PNP modem in RH6.1, but RH6.1 can found it. who help me ????
>
>
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From: Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running linux on 486
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:13:47 GMT
James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> sik wrote:
>
> > Hi.. I posted a few days ago about not being able to get linux started
> > on my old 486 when i installed it on this comp (with cdrom) and
> > transferred the hd back... i got it to start, but now i've come up
> > with a problem that i thought i would prob get... i get a kernal panic
> > becuase it was compiled for a pentium, and i'm trying to run it on a
> > 486.. is there anyway to recompile it without starting it? .. or to
> > change the kernal on this comp? or is my only option getting a cdrom
> > and installing it from the 486? .. Thanks for any help!
>
> You have to have a running system to compile a Kernel.
>
> If the Kernel on the CD is compiled for a 586 or 686 it won't work.
>
> Might I suggest that on a 486 that you might want to use Red Hat 5.2 and
> FVWM for the window manager.
Or Debian, or Slackware, with IceWM.
> And, that you will find that using Gnome or KDE may be too much for it.
> Too slow.
Mostly, it probably won't have enough RAM, and RAM for old machines is
expensive and hard to find, not worth the trouble. You can run a basic X
installation with IceWM in as little as 12-16 MB.
Matt O.
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From: Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Socket 7 board w/ ATA100 for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 09:19:13 GMT
Is there a good AMD based board available with ATA100 that works with
Linux? I'm not interested in RAID or overclocking, or tying up a slot with
a separate controller. If not, is there one coming soon?
Matt O.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem driver
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:06:59 +0100
James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> Nobody labels their modems as "non-winmodem". They couldn't. The
>> name is trademarked, and the trademark holders wouldn't do it!
> Well, surf on over to:
>
>http://www.pcprogress.com/cart/getlist.asp?ItemCat=MODEMS&OrderID=36229876039959353208541
> Notice the phrase:
> "NON-WINMODEM HARDWARE MODEM W/VOICE MODEL 2976 NON-WIN"
> in the description in the 3COM section.
3com hold the trademark as far as I recall. I'm not sure what the
status of a 3com resaler labelling some of 3coms' equipment as
non-winmodem is. Presumably it's OK by 3com. But they surely can't refer to
other manufacturers models that way, whatever they are! Well, maybe
they can, since they have 3com's blessing. But try doing that without a
3com franchise?
They (and you) have found a cranny in the law!
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,it.comp.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help adding second hard drive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:01:18 GMT
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:24:25 GMT, michael thomas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi group. Would be real grateful for some advice from you more experienced
> linux users.
>
> The situation is that I have Redhat installed on its own hard drive, but the
> hard drive is small and I have run out of space. I want to increase this
> space by adding a new hard drive. The pc has a second hard drive with
> Windows 98 on it. What I want to do is to either use part of the windows 98
> hard drive for extra space or buy a new drive and use that. But I don't want
> to mess with my existing linux installation. So basically, I want to format
> the new drive or part of the Windows 98 drive and be able to access it from
> the existing Linux hard drive. Is that possible?
>
> Thanks everyone
>
> Mike
See the HD Upgrade How-to:
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html
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From: "Peter de Vroomen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AVA-1515 SCSI install troubles
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:56:15 +0100
Hi,
I have a P90 system with a SCSI cdrom player on an Adaptec AVA-1515
controller. I am trying to install slackware on this system, but the
bootdisk does not recognize my SCSI card (cd-rom works perfectly from dos).
I must say that I am using an older version of Linux, the Infomagic CD's
from summer 1998. I believe it has Slackware 4.0 on it.
Anyone know of a specific distribution that is guaranteed to work with my
controller?
Regards,
Peter
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