Linux-Hardware Digest #47, Volume #14            Sun, 17 Dec 00 16:13:13 EST

Contents:
  Re: PCMCIA EthnetCard not recognised ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Need with with cdrecord error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: RH 7 and Linksys LNE100tx tulip compile problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux support for HP C500 digital camera (Matt Vaughan)
  Morrison64 / Advanced/MN ("Guennadi V. Liakhovetski")
  CD-burner? (Inge Svensson)
  Re: Soft-Power Shutdown RH7 (Markku Kolkka)
  DHCP with suse Linux (Mahesh Vaidya)
  PowerEdge 2450 and RedHat Linux ("Richard Robbins")
  Diamond Speedstar A200 Drivers (Bruce Nolte)
  Re: Netgear 310TX PCI Card - Linux Drivers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RedHat Linux and Dell PowerEdge 2450 or IBM Netfinity 4500R ("Richard Robbins")
  Re: Netgear 310TX PCI Card - Linux Drivers? (David Efflandt)
  Re: CD-burner? (Michael Heiming)
  linux & USB
  Re: 120M Superdisk (Henrik Carlqvist)
  Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 2 (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 1 (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: modem busy (M. Buchenrieder)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: PCMCIA EthnetCard not recognised
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:04:33 GMT


> > Upon inserting the RE450, I get the high tone indicating
> > recognition of
> > insertion of a card, but then a low tone indicating an unrecognised
> > card.

> This particular card has been in the card data base for ages
> (at least half a year now).
> Upgrade your pcmcia-cs package.
> Doing a bit of research is rumoured to help quite a lot
> when using Linux... :)

Cheers.  I did know the card was on the list and I am using pcmcia-cs
version 3.1.20, so relatively recent.

I do notice that the card that does work is found at 0x300 rather than
the 0x0149 of the one that does nto work.

Will have to seem what else I can find out.


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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:46:25 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,de.comp.periph.cdrom
Subject: Need with with cdrecord error

hi

i've recently been trying to write some music CD's using cdrecord and
during the write process, the following error shows up and causes
cdrecord to exit:

Performing OPC...
Starting new track at sector: 34387
Track 03:  21 of  43 MB written (fifo  20%).cdrecord: Input/output
error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 AC 35 00 00 0D 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)

write track data: error after 22809696 bytes
Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Writing  time:   76.453s

I'd like to know if this error is due to a problem with my drive, or
whether it's just a bad CD-R.
Also, i'd appreciate it if someone could tell me where i can find more
information about these kinds of errors (so i hopefully wont have to
bother u nice folks again in the future :))

thanks
ali


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: RH 7 and Linksys LNE100tx tulip compile problem
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:31:34 GMT

3c905b, it saves a lot of hassle!  ;)

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Rasmussen <Osler> wrote:
> Help!!!!!!
>
> I am at my wits end. No matter how many hours I try I can't get the
> appropiate drivers compiled. I continue to get errors.  I have tried
> the rpms, the drivers tgz file from linksys, and tried to individually
> compile them by hand.
>
> gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[
> -f/usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
>
> I realize their is a problem with header files in RH 7.0 and gcc.  I
> have followed the instuctions compulsively (see below) and it will not
> work. I installed the glibc bug fixes from redhat. I installed a
> stable version of gcc.  Still will not compile.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html
> Special instructions for Red Hat 7.0
> Red Hat 7.0 has a flawed configuration with their default install. It
> uses the header files from an unreleased 2.3.99 kernel, rather than
> installing the header files from the kernel that is actually running.
> This was an attempt to make user-level binaries independent of the
> specific kernel version, but it makes it impossible to automatically
> build kernel modules.
>
> A second problem is that 7.0 provides an experimental version of gcc
> that was not intended for public release. The stable version of gcc
> needed to correctly compile the kernel has been renamed to kgcc.
>
> The work-around is to substitute kgcc for gcc and to add
> -I/usr/src/linux/include on the compile command line when compiling by
> hand. The Makefile in the tar file and RPM automatically include this
> compile flag, however they cannot automatically use 'kgcc'.
>
> To repeat: this is a flaw that was introduced with Red Hat 7.0. It is
> a Red Hat configuration problem, not a driver update distribution bug.
> The symptom of this bug is compile error messages such as
>
> tulip.c: In function `tulip_open':
> tulip.c:1437: structure has no member named `tbusy'
> tulip.c:1438: structure has no member named `start'
> 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> The solution that seems easiest to me is if some kind soul with RH 7.0
> or any distro with kernel 2.2.16-22 would email me
>
> tulip.o and
> pci-scan.o
>
> from their /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net directory
>
> thanks
>
> obryantr@(SPAM_SANDWICH)chartermi.net
>
> remove (SPAM_SANDWICH) to email me
>


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From: Matt Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux support for HP C500 digital camera
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.dcameras
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:40:59 GMT

Has anyone been able to get this to work?  USB or serial?


-Matt



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From: "Guennadi V. Liakhovetski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Morrison64 / Advanced/MN
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 16:59:06 +0000

Hello

Does anybody here have any experience with this (Intel
Morrison64 aka Advanced/MN - the one with onboard S3-Trio64
card) motherboard?

Thanks
Guennadi
___

Dr. Guennadi V. Liakhovetski
Department of Applied Mathematics
University of Sheffield, U.K.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Subject: CD-burner?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Inge Svensson)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:16:10 +0100

I've looked at
http://www.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_intel.html#burners
and found that there are some CD-burners supported by BeOS. Are any of
those possible to use with Linux? I haven't found anything about this on
Red Hats site.
Inge Svensson

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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soft-Power Shutdown RH7
Date: 17 Dec 2000 19:40:47 +0200

root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The problem isn't in the kernel, it's in the shutdown script
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt. Try this patch:
> >
> 
> What do those --- and +++ ,  - and + mean ?

They are generated automatically by a program called "diff", so that
the script can be used as input for the "patch" program. See the man
pages for diff and patch.

> I understand that i have to modify /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt
> and replace there  :
> command = "halt" by
> command= "poweroff"
> Am i correct ?

Yes. You could also use the "patch" program to do it
automatically. Using "patch" to change a single line is a bit
unnecessary, but it's a good way to learn how to use it.

> Have i got to write + or - ?

No.

-- 
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        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Mahesh Vaidya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: roadrunner.techtalk.linux
Subject: DHCP with suse Linux
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 15:25:43 GMT

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Friends,

I am running Suse 7.0 and have 3Com900T network adapter.
I have done proper insmod 3c90x for driver.
when I try to do
$ rchdclient start it fails indicating
Starting service dhcp client on  eth0SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device

I have also done strace and attaching relevant part of output
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) ---
wait4(-1, 0xbfffee88, WNOHANG, NULL)    = -1 ECHILD (No child processes)

sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x806cde0, [], 0x4000000}, 8) = 0
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rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [CHLD], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [CHLD], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x806cde0, [], 0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
wait4(-1, SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 255], 0, NULL) = 1509
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD TTOU], [CHLD], 8) = 0


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Friends,
<p>I am running Suse 7.0 and have 3Com900T network adapter.
<br>I have done proper insmod 3c90x for driver.
<br>when I try to do
<br>$ rchdclient start it fails indicating
<br>Starting service dhcp client on&nbsp; eth0SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
<br>SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
<p>I have also done strace and attaching relevant part of output
<br><font size=-2>--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) ---</font>
<br><font size=-2>wait4(-1, 0xbfffee88, WNOHANG, NULL)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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= ? (mask now [])</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, {0x806cde0, [], 0x4000000},
8) = 0</font>
<br><font size=-2>stat64("/sbin/ifconfig", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=49340,
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<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0</font>
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size=-2>fork()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
= 1509</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [CHLD], 8) = 0</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [CHLD], NULL, 8) = 0</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0</font>
<br><font color="#FF0000">rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x806cde0, [], 0x4000000},
{SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0</font>
<br><font color="#FF0000">wait4(-1, SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device</font>
<br><font size=-2>SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device</font>
<br><font size=-2>[WIFEXITED(s) &amp;&amp; WEXITSTATUS(s) == 255], 0, NULL)
= 1509</font>
<br><font size=-2>rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD TTOU], [CHLD], 8) = 0</font>
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From: "Richard Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: PowerEdge 2450 and RedHat Linux
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:57:22 GMT

I am considering the purchase of a PowerEdge 2450 configured to run RedHat
Linux.  Is there any Dell proprietary software needed to make this work?  I
know that Dell will ship it with RedHat 7.  I'd like the comfort of knowing
that I could install onto this equipment from a fresh RedHat 7 distribution
not acquired from Dell.

-- Rich



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From: Bruce Nolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diamond Speedstar A200 Drivers
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 14:10:56 -0500

I am looking for driver information for either configuring a Diamond
Speedstar A200 video card, or pointing me in the direction for some
drivers. I am currently running RH 6.1 on another machine, but was
stymied on this one because of lack of graphics support.


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Subject: Re: Netgear 310TX PCI Card - Linux Drivers?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:17:17 GMT

Fordman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Hi folks,
> > I'm trying to find drivers for this card. Are there any? I'm using Suse
> > 6.3 & kernel 2.2.13 and I also have a PCI Realtek 8139 in the machine.
> > Working on it as a gateway for my network through a cable modem.
> > Can anyone confirm whether Linux drivers for these cards use 100mb
> > feature or do they default to 10mb?

> The tulip driver will run the Netgear for sure, and I'm almost positive the 
> Realtek is tulip as well.  As far as whether they support 100Mb or not, I 
> don't know since I still have a 10Mb hub :(

The Netgear 410TX (which is PCMCIA) also uses the tulip driver and
supports 100BTX just fine.  I suspect that the 410TX and 310TX are the
same, but with different bus interfaces.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In one gloss of the cut interstellarly I must immovable protect the
universe.

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From: "Richard Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: RedHat Linux and Dell PowerEdge 2450 or IBM Netfinity 4500R
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:18:56 GMT

I need to configure a dual processor linux server that will run RedHat Linux
7.  The machine needs to be rack mountable in a 2U or 3U chassis.  In
addition to a diskette and CD ROM, it also needs to house a SCSI tape backup
device.

At the moment I am considering either the Dell PowerEdge 2450 or the IBM
Netfinity 4500R.  The Dell product is the only one that I am aware of that
can do what I need in a 2U chassis.  The IBM is a 3U chassis.  I should
probably have the Compaq ProLiant DL380 on this list as well, but that
machine seems more expensive than either the Dell or IBM.  I'd be happy to
buy from penguincomputing or VA Linux, but both would require me to go to a
4U chassis.

Your comments on either or both of the IBM or Dell machines running RedHat 7
will be greatly appreciated.  I'd like to know if either requires
proprietary software in order to run.  I know that both IBM and Dell ship
machines with Linux on them, but that doesn't tell me the extent to which
proprietary software is required.

-- Rich



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netgear 310TX PCI Card - Linux Drivers?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:03:26 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Dermot Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to find drivers for this card. Are there any? I'm using Suse 
>6.3 & kernel 2.2.13 and I also have a PCI Realtek 8139 in the machine.
>
>Working on it as a gateway for my network through a cable modem.
>
>Can anyone confirm whether Linux drivers for these cards use 100mb 
>feature or do they default to 10mb?

I have the FA310TX and it does work with the standard tulip v0.89H module.  
However, it does not work properly with newer tulip v0.91g-ppc.  So if you
upgrade your kernel (which you should because kernels before 2.2.15 have a
security flaw), then use the old_tulip module.  I have kernel 2.2.17 and
do get 100mb full duplex automatically on a crossover cable.

The problem with the newer module is that the card cannot get out until it
has received traffic (ie: network unreachable until somebody pings you).  
The old_tulip does not have that problem.

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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:58:42 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-burner?

Hello,

lookup this page (english)

http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html

AFAIK all SCSI Burner will work with linux, you only need a kernel with
generic SCSI support...:-)
Don't know about IDE...

Good luck

Michael Heiming

Inge Svensson wrote:

> I've looked at
> http://www.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_intel.html#burners
> and found that there are some CD-burners supported by BeOS. Are any of
> those possible to use with Linux? I haven't found anything about this on
> Red Hats site.
> Inge Svensson
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux & USB
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:30:04 -0000

does anybody know if a
silicom usb ethernet adaptor model U2E
can work in linux
thank you



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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 120M Superdisk
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:04:58 +0100

James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> I would guess that "mtools" knows nothing about a 120M floppy. 
> Perhaps, you could tell it, but I don't know.

> It is best to treat it as a hard disk and add it to "fstab" as such.  

The way to tell mtools i probably to edit /etc/mtools.conf

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 2
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:54:34 GMT

James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

>I am not all that happy with Netscape Messenger but I need a smart
>reader.

Nobody is, as it is broken. You want a real newsreader and a real
email program.

And you're still sending everything twice.

Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: WAS [Help please] Now: MIME? message number 1
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:57:41 GMT

James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Lew Pitcher wrote:

>> ???

>A:

>That is what it looks when you (accidentally) send a vCard as plain text.

No, it's the result of sending a useless vCard. Please stop that,
as it's becoming annoying now. This will put an end t to this MIME
discussion as well, as that's the only reason why your newsreader
is sending out a message split up into several MIME sections.

Michael

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: modem busy
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:59:13 GMT

Ilya Sterin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I keep setting ttyS2 to irq 9 but when I run setserial -g /dev/ttyS2 it
>show it at irq 2 ???  If set to irq 15 it works, but not 9???

[...]

IRQ 2 is the same as IRQ 9 . They are identical, as the secondary
IRQ controller is cascaded from the first one via IRQ 2/9 .

Michael
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