Linux-Hardware Digest #503, Volume #14 Mon, 19 Mar 01 21:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: epox 8kta3+ and sound AC97 (Michael Heiming)
Smart Media readers in Linux? (Walter Francis)
Re: Linux Support for ATAPI CD-R/W Drives (Tim Moore)
Re: How to boot CD-ROM on old system? ("war")
EASY FIX! ("war")
Re: ATAPI CD-R won't write (Tim Moore)
Re: Netgear FA310TX (SIOCSIFFLAGS) (Tim Moore)
Re: EASY FIX! (Eric P. McCoy)
Re: Adaptec AHA-a50x install? (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: more promise controller problems - where does it end? (ekk)
Re: insert pcmcia card = locks up, hangs. DWL-650 D-Link wireless (Douglas Siebert)
Help!!! (cedric)
Re: How to boot CD-ROM on old system? (John Thompson)
Re: Smart Media readers in Linux? (Trevor Hemsley)
Re: Epson 777 and Wordperfect (Rod Smith)
Re: Smart Media readers in Linux? (Bruno Melli)
Re: Smart Media readers in Linux? (Walter Francis)
Re: Epson 777 and Wordperfect (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Oki 320T & Decwriter printers on RH 6.1 ? ("Brian Richardson")
Re: Notebook Support (Dances With Crows)
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:14:12 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epox 8kta3+ and sound AC97
Norbert Kniffler wrote:
>
> hi news-group,
> I'm running a 8kta3+ for 4 days with a linux kernel (2.2.14; suse
> distribution 6.4). The system seems running well. The most important cards
> are running (NE2000, SB VIBRA 16, Graphic and tv-tuner). So, I removed the
> SB-card and wanted to use the integrated AC97 sound module. There is a linux
> sound module for Caldera und Redhat in the software package. Does anybody
> know, how this can be used for the suse 6.4 distribution. Is ist possible to
> rewrite the installation procedure? Maybe there a difference in the
> directory name?
> Thanks you for your help!
> Norbert
Hello,
I don't know about 6.4, with SuSE 7.0 and EPOX 8KTA3 (The one without the +) the
onboard
soundcard is working in a few seconds (yast2) ...:-)
I have a VIBRA 16 too (some cheap crap clone ISA Plug'n"Pray") card and always
had trouble with it...
Michael Heiming
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital
Subject: Smart Media readers in Linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:13:44 -0500
I've been searching around, and I've found that apparently some of the
Sandisk readers are compatable with Linux, are there any others?
I'm looking specifically at a USB Dane-Elec reader, but I hadn't heard
of this brand previously so I guess it's unlikely that anyone knows if
it's supported or not, not sure how to find out though. They use the
same controllers, or protocols, etc, and all should work with each
other?
Again, it's a USB, I'm hoping that perhaps they all use the same
interface.
Appreciate any comments or suggestions on readers that definately will
work.
--
Walter Francis
http://theblackmoor.net Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.0
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Support for ATAPI CD-R/W Drives
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:30:12 GMT
p e a r c e wrote:
>
> How good is it? Should I just stick with SCSI?
>
> Thanks
ATAPI burners work great. Configure your kernel for SCSI emulation for
the CDROM however as most linux burner software needs scsi.
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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From: "war" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot CD-ROM on old system?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:34:40 GMT
If it doesn't do it in the bios, NO you cannot boot off of a bootable CD.
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From: "war" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EASY FIX!
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:33:20 GMT
Very easy fix, that is a known problem.
IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices
[*] Use multi-mode by default
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE:
If you get this error, try to say Y here:
hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Use hdparm(1) to increase speeds to 20MB/s+.
Specify your ICQ/AIM if you want help.
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-R won't write
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:37:04 GMT
Do you have SCSI cdrom support?
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netgear FA310TX (SIOCSIFFLAGS)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:41:01 GMT
Please post output from dmesg. Here's mine using the newer tulip
driver:
[dmesg]
tulip.c:v0.91g-ppc 7/16/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eth0: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xdc00, 00:A0:CC:57:89:93, IRQ 10.
eth0: MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7829 advertising 01e1.
eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of
41e1.
[lspci -v]
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev
20)
Subsystem: Netgear FA310TX
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
I/O ports at dc00
Memory at d7004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Matthew Leonard wrote:
>
> I just installed RH 7.0 on my Intel P3. I am trying to setup my NIC so
> I can connect via Verizon aDSL. I can't seem to get Linux to probe and
> recognize my Netgear card (PCI). I have tried setting it up with every
> IRQ (and tried it without setting any), and whenever I try running ifup
> eth0, I get these errors:
>
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
>
> I tried ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 up and it SEEMS to work (still getting
> the above errors) since I can ping 10.0.0.1 and ifconfig lists the eth0
> interface without errors. But then I try to connect to my DSL modem and
> nothing happens. I would suspect that its my aDSL PPPoE software, but
> when run in debug mode, it states that the network is down (after those
> tests above). I have installed the correct driver (tulip.o) with
> insmod, but it doesnt seem to help. I have disabled PnP, but that just
> makes it so that the interface can't be intialized at all. I have tried
> everything I can think of and have read every HOW-TO I thought might
> help, and now I ask for someone's, anyone's help...
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
> (sorry for the Xpost)
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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Subject: Re: EASY FIX!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 19 Mar 2001 16:42:29 -0500
This is a purely semantic followup.
"war" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Very easy fix, that is a known problem.
1. Please include quoted text. Most newsreaders automatically insert
the previous article and quote it for you. Remove the parts you're
not replying to, but keep enough so that we can understand what
you're replying to.
2. Do not change the subject line unless the (content) subject
changes. In particular, don't use the BBS trick of renaming
threads or using "NT" (or whatever).
The reason for both of these is that not all newsfeeds are equal. It
takes some articles longer to move around than others, which means
that your reply may actually arrive _before_ the article you're
following up on. Also, since most newsreaders don't display articles
that have been read, it can be difficult or confusing to tell what
you're talking about when you randomly change the subject line or
don't include enough (or any) context.
Please don't interpret this as a flame, because it's not. I, and a
lot of other people, have found that the above two tips get your
articles read by a lot more people.
Direct followups to _email_, please.
--
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation." - Something Awful, 1/11/2001
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adaptec AHA-a50x install?
Date: 19 Mar 2001 22:26:05 GMT
George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a place where I might learn how to make my SCSI
> adapter work?
www.linuxdoc.org. The SCSI howto should be rather handy, along with the
kernel module one.
> the adapter is
> Adaptec AHA-150X/1510/152X/AIC-6X60
> Windows system mgr / Properties says
> Input/Output Range = 0140-015F
> IRQ 12
That uses the aha152x module. The quick and dirty version is to put
a 'modprobe aha152x' at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local (or /etc/rc.local,
depending on the distro). You also may need to give it the ioport and
irq (which you have above) on the modprobe command line. The howto
and/or 'man modprobe' will tell you the exact syntax.
> I'm running SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro and everything else seems to work great, just
> can't get it to recognise the SCSI card and Tape drive and I can't seem to
> find any instructions on how to get it to use hardware that it doesn't
> recognise on it's own.
After you get the card up, a 'modprobe st' will load the SCSI tape driver.
Your tape drive will then be accessible via /dev/st0 (rewinding tape device)
and /dev/nst0 (non-rewinding). See the man page for 'mt' for tape managment
commands. For backup purposes, a range of software exits -- tar, afio, cpio,
dump/restore...
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: more promise controller problems - where does it end?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:20:32 -0500
Thank you for your reply.
Unfortunately, I tried your suggestion with no luck. Please note, I am
first having problems with the boot record on SCSI (the promise
controller). Do I potentially have a bad promise controller?
Ken
war wrote:
> Very easy fix, that is a known problem.
>
> IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices
> [*] Use multi-mode by default
>
> CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE:
>
> If you get this error, try to say Y here:
> hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
>
> Use hdparm(1) to increase speeds to 20MB/s+.
> Specify your ICQ/AIM if you want help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Siebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: insert pcmcia card = locks up, hangs. DWL-650 D-Link wireless
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:58:47 +0000 (UTC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe) writes:
>If I boot with the card in, the machine hangs after starting pcmcia
>(beeps once). If I leave the card out, it boots ok, but hangs when I
>insert the card (beeps once).
>Other posts have suggested port or IRQ conflicts, so I've made some
>modifications to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts, but to no avail.
>Info:
>Redhat 6.2, kernel upgraded 2.2.16
>pcmcia-cs-3.1.18
Update to the latest pcmcia-cs (I upgraded to .23, .24 is out now) I don't
know where the "fix" was put in, but older versions hang when you insert
a cardbus card. Or at least they did for me. When I installed the newer
version, all was good.
Haven't tried it with a wireless card, but I've had success with a 3com
NIC card and a sandisk ATA flash card.
--
Douglas Siebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have discovered a remarkable proof which this .sig is too small to contain!
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From: cedric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help!!!
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:15:03 -0800
Had to reinstall RH 6.2.
All my data was on /dev/hdd.
/dev/hdd is there during boot up.
I added:
/dev/hdd /mnt/data ext2 defaults 0 0
to /etc/fstab and /mnt/data to /mnt.
I can't find my data.
What do I have to do?
cedric
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot CD-ROM on old system?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:56:52 -0600
Laurence Tyler wrote:
> Does anyone know whether it is possible to boot a 'bootable' (El Torito)
> CD-ROM on an old system without 'boot from CD-ROM' support in the BIOS?
>
> For a given CD (eg: a Linux distro) there is undoubtedly a specific boot
> diskette, but it should be possible to have a 'generic' boot floppy that
> snarfs the actual boot disk image from the CD (having first located it)
> and then somehow continues booting from that (possibly as a ramdisk).
> This should work with any bootable CD... or am I missing something?
>
> I'm sure someone, somewhere must already have done this...
The BIOS has to recognize the device as bootable. Older PC
BIOSes don't allow this. You could update the BIOS or just use a
boot floppy to boot.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Hemsley)
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital
Subject: Re: Smart Media readers in Linux?
Date: 19 Mar 2001 23:49:02 GMT
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:13:44, Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I've been searching around, and I've found that apparently some of the
> Sandisk readers are compatable with Linux, are there any others?
>
> I'm looking specifically at a USB Dane-Elec reader, but I hadn't heard
> of this brand previously so I guess it's unlikely that anyone knows if
> it's supported or not, not sure how to find out though. They use the
> same controllers, or protocols, etc, and all should work with each
> other?
>
> Again, it's a USB, I'm hoping that perhaps they all use the same
> interface.
>
> Appreciate any comments or suggestions on readers that definately will
> work.
May not be quite what you want to hear but PCMCIA adapters
*definitely* work. I have one here, a TDK FCB128N, with a 64MB
Smartmedia chip in it. In my laptop it looks just like a PCMCIA IDE
drive, mounts like one, behaves like one. Running hdparm -t /dev/hdc
shows that I get about 800KB/sec from it. A friend at work has a
"Flashpath" Smartmedia adapter that emulates a floppy drive. You plug
the card into the adapter and then use it as a floppy. We downloaded
Linux drivers for it from the Flashpath site and compiled them - yes,
they worked but... the compile needed to be hacked around a lot to
make it complete and there were lots of undocumented packages required
to make it compile. Once compiled it appeared to modprobe ok and work
correctly - just looked like a very large floppy drive. Main drawback
compared to my PCMCIA adapter, 34KB/sec vs 800. In addition it was
more expensive - UK�49 vs UK�35. Oh, and it flooded /var/log/messages
with huge amounts of debug messages :-(
--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Epson 777 and Wordperfect
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:50:25 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) writes:
> I've got this printer working fairly well with CUPS and the gimp-print
> drivers. The WP driver options don't list anything close to this model.
> All look to be laser or postscript printer drivers. The ACSII 'pass
> through' works fine for plain text. The only other thing close to a
> generic driver is Postscript 'pass through', which prints out only what
> looks to be pages of postscript commands. AFAICT, you have to use one of
> the supplied WP drivers.
If you're using WP 8, which it sounds like you are, check my Web page on
WP fonts and printing:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/wpfonts/
In sum, it sounds like your smart filter is getting confused by
something about the printer driver you selected. Chances are that
another PostScript driver will work. It's also possible that your Linux
printer queue isn't set up to work with PostScript output (GIMP includes
some non-PostScript drivers, so it's not a good test case -- try
Netscape for that instead).
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Bruno Melli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital
Subject: Re: Smart Media readers in Linux?
Date: 19 Mar 2001 22:26:11 GMT
In rec.photo.digital Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been searching around, and I've found that apparently some of the
> Sandisk readers are compatable with Linux, are there any others?
The Flashpath floppy adaptor has a Linux driver. Of course it is dog slow
compared to a USB connection but it let me recover files I had deleted by
mistake so I'm not complaining.
bruno.
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital
Subject: Re: Smart Media readers in Linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:04:36 -0500
I contacted the company, Dane-Elec, and within a few hours I received
this reply:
Sounds like they're fully willing to provide all details on the
interface to their cards, perhaps even already covered by the kernel. I
think I'll go ahead and buy the reader, if all else fails I can boot
vmware (suspend/restore is really fast :) and get the files that way
until it's natively supported. I have no power adaptor for my camera,
and I'm getting a 64M card soon, which I predict will require about
three hours of download time, so it's time for a reader. :)
>The controller is SCM's "EUSB-02" USB to SmartMedia interface adapter and
>it is configured with VendorID: 04E6, ProductID: 0003. The VID/PID details
>would be useful for Linux developers as they could use them for reference
>when contacting other developers within their community.
>Having said the above, for any such Linux users asking you about the
>technical details of our interface adapters such as the USB-SM, USB-CF or
>the Dual reader, please tell them that the source code is already being
>updated by several people. However, Matthew Dharm
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the main person involved in maintaining
>sanity in the source. He should be the best contact in case they have more
>questions and so as to keep from having to re-invent the wheel.
>Finally, I want to add that while we've contributed by providing technical
>data to help with the endeavor of the above mentioned developers, we at SCM
>are not ourselves actively engaged to provide any support for the Linux OS.
>All such work is being carried out independently by those other parties.
>Hope this helps,Sincerely,Patrick Wheelock QA Manager
--
Walter Francis
http://theblackmoor.net Powered by Red Hat Linux 7.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Epson 777 and Wordperfect
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Mar 2001 20:30:50 -0500
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:50:25 -0000, Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Posted and mailed]
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) writes:
>> I've got this printer working fairly well with CUPS and the
>> gimp-print drivers. The WP driver options don't list anything close
>> to this model. All look to be laser or postscript printer drivers.
>> The ACSII 'pass through' works fine for plain text. The only other
>> thing close to a generic driver is Postscript 'pass through', which
>> prints out only what looks to be pages of postscript commands.
>> AFAICT, you have to use one of the supplied WP drivers.
>
>If you're using WP 8, which it sounds like you are, check my Web page on
>WP fonts and printing:
>
>http://www.rodsbooks.com/wpfonts/
Thanks, I've been there before, and will have to spend more time there
once I get to first base on this.
>
>In sum, it sounds like your smart filter is getting confused by
>something about the printer driver you selected. Chances are that
>another PostScript driver will work. It's also possible that your Linux
>printer queue isn't set up to work with PostScript output (GIMP
>includes some non-PostScript drivers, so it's not a good test case --
>try Netscape for that instead).
Reams of gibberish there too I'm afraid. So back to square one. It was
no small task to get decent printer output from Gimp, so I guess that
was something. I feel like the girl in 'Adventures in Babysitting'. I
can patch and build kernels in my sleep, but get an Epson printer
to print Hello World in something other than courier 10? Ha, no steenkin
way.
Current source of extreme aggravation: there seems to be no way to stop
an active print job with cups. So 'Hello World' generates about 6 pages of
postscript doodles. Even when cups says 'no active jobs' and 'printer
stopped', the printer is merrily lessening the global tree population.
The only way to stop it, is use ps and find it, and then 'kill -KILL'.
Now I know why I like plain text so much ;)
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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From: "Brian Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oki 320T & Decwriter printers on RH 6.1 ?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:35:02 -0500
Thanks James.....I'll take a look at the apsfilter utility, and your info.
about ghostscript recompilation
is also useful......
Regards,
Brian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian Richardson wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know which printer drivers/filters installed on a typical RH
6.1
> > (2.2.12-20 kernel) load
> > will support Okidata ML 320T and Decwriter III printers ? Using
printtool
> > from Gnome
> > doesn't specifically list either of these in the printer filter list,
and I
> > couldn't find references
> > to either when I looked through the various related file manually from
the
> > command line.
> > A couple of older Epson dot matrix printers have been installed and work
> > just fine.
> >
> > Each of these will be printing only simple text. This machine is a
> > production dbms server, so I
> > have to be a bit careful about any changes I make (e.g.,
> > installing/upgrading/recompiling any modules, etc)
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> > Brian
>
> In the apsfilter setup program I find the following:
>
> declj250 - CalComp Raster Format
> ibmpro - IBM 9-pin Proprinter
> jetp3852 - IBM JetPrinter ink-jet color (Model #3852)
> la50 - DEC LA50 printer
> la70 - DEC LA70 printer
> la70t - DEC LA70 printer with low resol, text enhancement
> la75 - DEC LA75 printer
> la75plus - DEC LA75plus printer
> ln03 - DEC LN03 printer
> lj250 - DEC LJ250 Companion color printer
> necp6 - NEC P6/P6+/P60, 360x360 DPI resol
> oki182 - Okidata MicroLine 182
> okiibm - Okidata MicroLine IBM-compatible printers
>
> Please beaware that most newer Linux distros do not include support for
> dot matrix printers with the ghostscript that is installed. If the
> support is not there you have to compile ghostscript youeself with the
> support added. You could read
> /usr/share/ghostscript/xxx/doc/devices.htm. You might also want to get a
> good printer utility like apsfilter and install it. Apsfilter will tell
> you what printers are supported by the ghostscript you have installed.
>
> jamess
>
> --
> "On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
> it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
>
> -Anonymous
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Notebook Support
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Mar 2001 01:56:13 GMT
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:50:23 +0800, Raymond Chia staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
We heard you the first time. No need to post twice, eh?
>I am planning to get a notebook that supports Linux Redhat 7.0 version. I
>went for a recent PC fair and approached some technical staff from
>Toshiba,IBM,HP & DELL on the support for the installation, but to my
>surprise none of them are sure about Linux OS. Can someone tell me which
>model of Notebook supports the installation for Linux Redhat version 6 or
>ver 7 series ,and whether does it supports USB Floppy Diskette Drive?
Pick out 5 or 6 models that look good, write down their model #s, then
go to http://linux-laptop.net/ and search around. FWIW, I've had
excellent luck with a couple of Thinkpads (380D and 600X models). SuSE
6.4 and 7.0 installed flawlessly on those. DOn't know about DeadRat,
as a whole it has features that are just plain annoying, like "user
private groups" and "kudzu", so I never install it on anything by
choice.
Recent distros like SuSE >= 7.0, Mandrake >= 7.1, and Debian woody
should support USB storage devices and USB ports provided the storage
devices conform to the published specs. This is not always the case.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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