Linux-Hardware Digest #552, Volume #14 Sat, 31 Mar 01 12:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Kernel too big (Steve Martin)
Support for LCD Monitors? ("Robert Hardy")
SuSE Seagate Adaptec Problem ("Dr. Marcus Naraidoo")
video/ tuner input ("Luke")
Re: Support for LCD Monitors? (Stig Brautaset)
Re: video/ tuner input (Michael Heiming)
Re: Athlon processor compatibility with SuSe (James O'Reilly)
Re: VIA AC97 audio (VT82C686 super south) and 2.4.2 kernel.. (Matt Rusnak)
Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video? (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: TRADE FOR MATROX G200 (PCI) (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Sony Cybershot DSC F505 ("Klaus Gromann")
about Xerox DocuPrint P8ex (66666)
Re: Gnome lockups in RH7 (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
determining keycodes (John Prokopek)
Re: video/ tuner input (William Burrow)
Re: determining keycodes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VIA AC97 audio (VT82C686 super south) and 2.4.2 kernel.. (Matt Rusnak)
AGP and Linux (mike)
Re: Abit SL6 motherboard (Norman Levin)
Re: Processor ID (Norman Levin)
Re: CD-R for backups (Norman Levin)
Re: How to boot CD-ROM on old system? (Norman Levin)
Re: Token Ring PCMCIA Cards (Norman Levin)
TV-Ausgang bei ATI Radeon / Xfree86 ("J.Ortlieb")
Addonics Yamaha DX-XG ("Irzadi Siregar")
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:04:34 -0500
Tomaz Cedilnik wrote:
> Is there any difference in efficiency between a compiled-in driver and a
> module driver?
Not really. One might argue that there is a tiny bit of overhead
in loading the module on demand, but that would happen even if
the driver was compiled in; it would just happen at boot time
rather than at runtime.
> I personally prefer to compile in all drivers that I need unless I need
> a bit more dynamic driver set.
If there is a driver that I know I'll need frequently (PPP or ext2fs
are good examples in my case), I go ahead and compile them in. However,
for things like Macintosh fs (which I need once in a blue moon),
compiling as a module makes good sense.
> If you set up eg. a SB driver (something that needs more options) as a
> module, do you specify the port and other info at compile time?
No, these things get specified in modules.conf for modules. (If the
particular device is an ISA Plug & Pray device, then you also would need
to specify this info in the isapnp.conf file.)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,uk.comp.os.linux
From: "Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Support for LCD Monitors?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:12:19 GMT
Not knowing so much about Linux etc. I am wondering if I will have problems
using a LCD monitor (precisely the Proview BM568 or the TAXAN Crystalvision
680) - I am just putting together a system and will want to run some
distribution of Linux (no preference as yet). Will I need drivers and such -
since I know that they supply Win9* etc drivers with the product (not sure
what they do), but they don't have any Linux drivers for download from their
sites.
Thanks.
Robert.
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From: "Dr. Marcus Naraidoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE Seagate Adaptec Problem
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:35:05 +0100
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My system:
Pentium II 333MHz + 128Mbytes
Metaxor IDE drive (8Gbytes) - this is the boot device
Phoenics Bios release 4.0E
Adaptec SCSI AHA-3940AU (narrow) host adapter. This is a two channel
device. Both channels have ID7. Termination on the adapter is set to
automatic. Adaptec Bios version 1.34.1
Seagate Barracuda 18XL ST318416N (narrow) SCSI hard drive.
All connections are the correct length. Pin-1-orientation has been
preserved. A number of ribbon cables have been tried.
Termination is enabled on the ST318416N and termination power is also
set via the correct jumper settings.
The device has ID4 but I have also tried ID0 (the factory default). It
is on channel A.
Channel B has an Iomega Zip250 with ID5 and termination enabled.
Both devices are on the ends of their SCSI buses.
I get the following message when the LILO boot manager starts to install
SuSE Linux v6.3:
SCSI0 Aborting due to time out
SCSI PID4 SCSI0 Channel 0 ID 4 Lun 0 test ...and then some numbers...
SCSI host 0 abort (pid 4) timed out - resetting
SCSI bus reset for host 0 channel 0
SCSI host 0 abort (pid 4) trying harder
and so on...
What do I need to do? I know that a Barracuda 9L works with this host
adapter. I've moved the adapter card to PCI slot 1. I know that the
drive is OK as I have downloaded the Seagate Disk checking software and
that comes back with a positive assessment.
Thanks for your help.
Marcus
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Reply-To: "Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video/ tuner input
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:48:04 +0100
I want to buy a video / tuner card to watch tv, input video and things so
forth...
will linux support such devices? if yes does anyone know where i can find
one to work with both windows and linux or am i really pushing my luk?
A greatful newbie
Luke
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Support for LCD Monitors?
From: Stig Brautaset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 Mar 2001 14:47:44 +0100
"Robert Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Not knowing so much about Linux etc. I am wondering if I will have problems
> using a LCD monitor (precisely the Proview BM568 or the TAXAN Crystalvision
> 680) - I am just putting together a system and will want to run some
> distribution of Linux (no preference as yet). Will I need drivers and such -
> since I know that they supply Win9* etc drivers with the product (not sure
> what they do), but they don't have any Linux drivers for download from their
> sites.
You should not have any problem /at all/ using any monitor that will
connect to your graphics card.
Regards, Stig
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:09:47 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video/ tuner input
Luke wrote:
>
> I want to buy a video / tuner card to watch tv, input video and things so
> forth...
>
> will linux support such devices? if yes does anyone know where i can find
> one to work with both windows and linux or am i really pushing my luk?
No, you are not...:-)
Cards based on the BT848 or the newer BT878 chip will work among others,
however I would suggest getting an original one from hauppauge.
http://www.hauppauge.com/
This will save you some trouble, you may get with one of those cheap
crap
clone cards. I don't know which distro you use, with newer SuSE distros
those cards work out of the box.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: James O'Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Athlon processor compatibility with SuSe
Date: 31 Mar 2001 14:43:20 GMT
I also found it difficult to match the hardware compatibilities on the
SuSE site with the system specs on a hardware vendor's or manufacturer's
site. Have you asked SuSE? I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message with the
specs of a system in which I was interested and actually got a response
from SuSE GmbH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. It commented on the areas where there
might be problems and suggested what one might do about the problems. I
wrote the hardware manufacturer with this info about a month ago, but
naturally I haven't received any reply yet, even though I sent a follow-up
a couple of weeks ago. The manufacturer is obviously only interested in
quick sales and evidently replies only once to initial inquiries and not
at all to subsequent follow-up inquiries. But SuSE was responsive.
Jim O'Reilly
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From: Matt Rusnak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIA AC97 audio (VT82C686 super south) and 2.4.2 kernel..
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:49:31 -0500
Thanks, works like a charm!
The first thing I tried was a new mp3 I got from a band who is
distributing some songs as mp3s before their new album is released. It
had some clicks and pops in it, and I thought it was the drivers, but
fortunately it was the mp3 and/or mpg123. (but that's not likely.)
http://www.myopia-rocks.com/ if anyone's interested. Good stuff. :)
I'd heard about the ALSA drivers before, but I thought it had something
to do with the ALS* card that someone was having problems with.. I'm
still sort of wondering what the problem was with the via driver
distributed with the kernel, though.. I don't know enough about
kernel/module programming to troubleshoot it, though.. yet. :)
-Matt
Peter Christy wrote:
>
> Well, you've got further than I did! I've never managed to get a squeak out
> of mine using the kernel drivers, either as modules or compiled in.
> Everything loads OK, but no sound comes forth.....!
>
> However, I have had a lot of success with the Alsa drivers. Again, there
> are many conflicting versions of how to install these (I found the best
> advice at www.linuxnewbie.org but still had to fiddle a bit!), and I had to
> do quite a bit of trial and error before I succeeded, but they are now
> working superbly well. The latest 0.9.0beta3 version seems to be perfectly
> stable, and has eliminated the odd click and pop I got under the "stable"
> 0.5.10 release. They also work properly under the aRTs server used by KDE
> now.
>
> Give the Alsa drivers a try. If you want some help on installing them, drop
> me an e-mail, and I'll tell you how I did it (Gigabyte GA-7ZM board, Duron
> 700).
>
> --
> Pete
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:43:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith R. Williams) wrote:
> At 85Hz?
Huh. You mean the difference between refresh rates is *visible*?
I didn't know that. I always thought you just had to make sure
the signal the video card is sending was within the range the
monitor's specs say it can handle -- a compatibility issue. I
had no idea the difference was visible. (To me, it's not.)
> I am very sensitive to flicker
Flicker? What's that? ;-)
Seriously, the only way I can notice the periodicity at
all, even at 60Hz, is to wave something back and forth
in front of the monitor.
> The fluorescent strips beat against monitors
Then again, I have incandescent lighting here, so maybe that's
why I can't tell. Either that or I'm impervious to flicker.
(My first monitor was CGA, and I had flourescent lighting then
and never noticed any flicker (except "snow"), so maybe I am...)
- jonadab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: TRADE FOR MATROX G200 (PCI)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:43:56 GMT
Kyle Keys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This card would be better suited in a windows or Digital UNIX box.
Then why are you offering it in a Linux newsgroup?
Try on a Windows newsgroup, your local chapter of DECUS, or
at least a general-hardare newsgroup that isn't linux-specific.
- jonadab
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From: "Klaus Gromann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sony Cybershot DSC F505
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:56:24 +0200
Anyone knows how to connect a sony Cybershot DSC F505 via USB to a SuSE 7.1
Linux ?
hopefully
Klaus
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From: 66666 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: about Xerox DocuPrint P8ex
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:00:39 +0800
do Xerox DocuPrint P8ex support Linux!
thx alot!
i want to buy this printer , but dont know it support linux or not!
i see the website it do not provide linux driver?
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Complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Gnome lockups in RH7
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:45:03 GMT
Gnome is a system hog. If you don't have a truckload of RAM,
make sure you at least have plenty of swap space. I used to
get serious slowdowns in Gnome (twenty minutes to close a
window) when I only had 32RAM + 32swap. Did some partition
rearranging to give myself a lot of swap space, and it quit
happening. (Later I added more RAM too, for even better
performance.) Make sure you have plenty of *something*,
if not RAM then swap space. I recommend 256MB of one or
the other. 128MB combined at the very least.
If you already have plenty, then that's not your problem.
Otherwise, make yourself a swapfile and see if that helps.
- jonadab
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From: John Prokopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: determining keycodes
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:04:42 -0500
can someone tell me how to verify keycodes?
I am trying to map keys in a program by their keycodes and it doesn't
seem to be working.
I have tried using showkey but it doesn't seem to work.
An example is the multiply key on the key pad. The keycode should
be 0x37. When I use showkey it just displays a '*' and does not return
a value.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
John D. Prokopek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: video/ tuner input
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:19:48 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:48:04 +0100 in comp.os.linux.hardware,
Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to buy a video / tuner card to watch tv, input video and things so
>forth...
>
>will linux support such devices? if yes does anyone know where i can find
>one to work with both windows and linux or am i really pushing my luk?
As recommended by someone else, select a card based on the BrookTree
chip (BT848, et al). Then visit the BTTV HOWTO at the LDP:
http://www.linuxdocs.org
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
Y1.99K compliant message. ~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: determining keycodes
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:47:00 -0000
In comp.os.linux.development.system John Prokopek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| can someone tell me how to verify keycodes?
| I am trying to map keys in a program by their keycodes and it doesn't
| seem to be working.
| I have tried using showkey but it doesn't seem to work.
| An example is the multiply key on the key pad. The keycode should
| be 0x37. When I use showkey it just displays a '*' and does not return
| a value.
Your showkey is broken or doesn't match your kernel.
You should be getting something like:
=============================================================================
root@pollux:/root 48> showkey
kb mode was XLATE
press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
keycode 28 release
keycode 55 press
keycode 55 release
root@pollux:/root 49>
=============================================================================
And just to make sure, showkey is for virtual console, not X.
--
=================================================================
| Phil Howard - KA9WGN | Dallas | http://linuxhomepage.com/ |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Texas, USA | http://phil.ipal.org/ |
=================================================================
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From: Matt Rusnak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIA AC97 audio (VT82C686 super south) and 2.4.2 kernel..
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:22:27 -0500
After some more checking, I found that it's _certain_ audio when played
with mpg123 that causes scratchy sounds.. The same ones played with xmms
are no problem. Any ideas..?
-Matt
Matt Rusnak wrote:
>
> Thanks, works like a charm!
>
> The first thing I tried was a new mp3 I got from a band who is
> distributing some songs as mp3s before their new album is released. It
> had some clicks and pops in it, and I thought it was the drivers, but
> fortunately it was the mp3 and/or mpg123. (but that's not likely.)
>
> http://www.myopia-rocks.com/ if anyone's interested. Good stuff. :)
>
> I'd heard about the ALSA drivers before, but I thought it had something
> to do with the ALS* card that someone was having problems with.. I'm
> still sort of wondering what the problem was with the via driver
> distributed with the kernel, though.. I don't know enough about
> kernel/module programming to troubleshoot it, though.. yet. :)
>
> -Matt
>
> Peter Christy wrote:
> >
> > Well, you've got further than I did! I've never managed to get a squeak out
> > of mine using the kernel drivers, either as modules or compiled in.
> > Everything loads OK, but no sound comes forth.....!
> >
> > However, I have had a lot of success with the Alsa drivers. Again, there
> > are many conflicting versions of how to install these (I found the best
> > advice at www.linuxnewbie.org but still had to fiddle a bit!), and I had to
> > do quite a bit of trial and error before I succeeded, but they are now
> > working superbly well. The latest 0.9.0beta3 version seems to be perfectly
> > stable, and has eliminated the odd click and pop I got under the "stable"
> > 0.5.10 release. They also work properly under the aRTs server used by KDE
> > now.
> >
> > Give the Alsa drivers a try. If you want some help on installing them, drop
> > me an e-mail, and I'll tell you how I did it (Gigabyte GA-7ZM board, Duron
> > 700).
> >
> > --
> > Pete
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AGP and Linux
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:25:30 -0500
Hi,
I was wondering if there are any problems
using AGP video cards with Linux?
I am using Redhat 6.1, 6.2, Mandrake 7.0 and
Mandrake 7.2.
My system consists of an A-Trend 6240 motherboard
with an Intel chipset and Celeron 300A processor.
Thanks
Mike
P.S. I want to get a Jaton TNT2 Pro AGP video card.
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:03:02 -0600
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Abit SL6 motherboard
Patrick F Harris wrote:
>
> From what I read in this and other groups, the 815E chip sets are best
> off kernel 2.4, I just ordered a Intel 815EEA without sound, but with
> the onboard graphics, I will run it with redhat 7.1 beta. Older versi
** yes, you really need xfree 4.0 and up for this chip. Else you support
it in vga mode.
--
Norman Levin
"In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: 'Come the millennium, month 12, in the home of
greatest power, the village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the
leader.'"
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:06:23 -0600
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Processor ID
Kasper Dupont wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
** snipped **
this is much worry about nothing - when you have real things to worry about.
Whether a mac address is read once or with every packet makes no difference.
The fact is, YOU are identifiable. The thought that CPUID is going to
be more of a tie to U vs your MAC address is rediculous. All you need
to do is run winipcfg or ifconfig and ship that info down. Sorry. this
cpuid is just a piece of *(& that lets people get worked up.
Get over it.
--
Norman Levin
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:48:18 -0600
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CD-R for backups
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Johannes B. Ullrich" wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am looking for good linux backup software that supports CD-R drives.
> > Any recommendations?
>
> webmin!
** on a separate note, I down loaded webmin and it seems like a tool with
potential. I also downloaded some of the additional modules. They are all
in a tarball format and the directorys do NOT seem to be relative to /.
I could explore, but am I missing some documentation? Where should I be
(I'm talking about directorys - I've had lots of people tell me where to go)
when I eXtract the tar ball?
--
Norman Levin
"In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: 'Come the millennium, month 12, in the home of
greatest power, the village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the
leader.'"
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:50:31 -0600
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to boot CD-ROM on old system?
Laurence Tyler wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Does anyone know whether it is possible to boot a 'bootable' (El Torito)
> CD-ROM on an old system without 'boot from CD-ROM' support in the BIOS?
>
> For a given CD (eg: a Linux distro) there is undoubtedly a specific boot
> diskette, but it should be possible to have a 'generic' boot floppy that
> snarfs the actual boot disk image from the CD (having first located it)
> and then somehow continues booting from that (possibly as a ramdisk).
> This should work with any bootable CD... or am I missing something?
>
** yes, you either boot from cd, or you don't. there isn't a combo boot.
When you boot from a diskette, it often askes for the CD, but it then mounts
it at some point and gets all the files from the mount point.
If your cd is not bootable, thats what needs to be done.
--
Norman Levin
"In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: 'Come the millennium, month 12, in the home of
greatest power, the village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the
leader.'"
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:32:36 -0600
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Token Ring PCMCIA Cards
Ian Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I need a Token Ring card for my laptop, preferrably under Linux. Does anyone
> know of such a beast?
> ** of course, IBM has such a beast. But wait, even the ibm locations
are changing to ethernet. Is that a clue?
Norman Levin
"In 1555, Nostradamus wrote: 'Come the millennium, month 12, in the home of
greatest power, the village idiot will come forth to be acclaimed the
leader.'"
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From: "J.Ortlieb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV-Ausgang bei ATI Radeon / Xfree86
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:00:50 +0200
Hallo,
ich habe mir einen neuen Rechner mit Suse 7.1 sowie einer ATI Radeon mit
TV-Ausgang eingerichtet. Leider schaltet der TV-Ausgang jedesmal, wenn der
X-Server startet, ab (beim Installieren mit Yast2 funktioniert er). Ich habe
es bis jetzt nicht geschafft, eine Modeline zu erstellen, bei der der
TV-Ausgang funtioniert, da beim "runterfahren" der Frequenzen vorher bereits
der Monitor abschaltet.
Hat denn jemand eine Modeline, mit der der TV-Out funktioniert? (Im �brigen
reicht es mir, wen diese funktioniert, da ich den Rechner als Videorecorder
nutzen will und somit eigentlich keinen Monitor mehr anschlie�e)
Oder habe ich evtl. ein ganz anderes Problem?
Gr��e, J�rgen
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From: "Irzadi Siregar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Addonics Yamaha DX-XG
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:05:25 +0700
I installed Red Hat Linux 6.2 but it won't recognize my Addonics SV550
Yamaha DX-XG.
Anyone can help me ?
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