Linux-Hardware Digest #603, Volume #14           Wed, 11 Apr 01 01:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: RH7.0 ignores /etc/resolv.conf (Walter Dnes)
  Re: HELP: Newbie to Linux (Walter Dnes)
  Hauppauge WinTV-D Configuration (Johnny Luong)
  scanner driver (Richard Konrad)
  Re: hardware access (Leon Majewski)
  Re: scanner driver (Paul Pygeon)
  Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice? (dionysus)
  Re: SCSI issue with two cards (Don Gingrich)
  Re: SCSI issue with two cards (Cokey de Percin)
  Phone line network ("Mike Carlucci")
  Re: Linux modems ("Elad Lahav")
  SMP motherboard recommendations solicited ("Gregg Nemesure")
  Re: CD Writer for Linux (Daniel Weiskopf)
  Re: Can't boot off CD (SuSE 7.0) (hac)
  Re: Glide and the Voodoo3 with Redhat 7 ("Mike Tharp")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Dnes)
Subject: Re: RH7.0 ignores /etc/resolv.conf
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:30:48 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 8 Apr 2001 19:01:22 -0400, Hal Burgiss, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >My resolv.conf, copied straight from a working RH6.2 machine

   Copied *MANUALLY*, sigh.

> Try it without the '=' in there. I've never seen that.

<ELVIS>
Thank you, thank you, thank you very, very much.
</ELVIS>

  I fumble-fingered the manual copying.  It works now.

-- 
Walter Dnes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Dnes)
Subject: Re: HELP: Newbie to Linux
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:30:49 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 06 Apr 2001 21:01:08 GMT, Trevor Hemsley, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> What you might want to do is pop along to a computer fair or three and
> check out what is available. There's one in Hove town hall next Friday
> (13/4/2001) which'll cost you a couple of quid to get in. There are 
> usually stalls there selling secondhand gear - the one I went to at 
> Brighton racecourse last weekend had a stall full of things like 
> IBM/Dell/Compaq Pentium 166's with 32MB RAM and a couple of GB of disk
> space.

  I'd have qualms about recommending Compaqs for linux.  Too damn
proprietary.  I'm using a Presario with a 90mhz Pentium and 40 megs of
RAM as my RedHat7.0 testbed.  Under RedHat 7.0 I just tested 892 kbps
download 127 kbps upload on a nominal 1 megabit down 120 kbps up
connection at http://www.dslreports.com.  That was a shock, (a pleasant
one mind you) as the machine is grossly underpowered for Win98.

  Anyways, I had an install-from-hell with Win98.  I eventually had to
diskcopy the Windows CD to a partition on the harddrive and pretend that
that partition was the install CD.

  The first thing many people do when installing linux or other OS is to
wipe and re-partition their harddrive.  Guess what; Compaq keeps half their
"BIOS" on a hidden partition.  I thought that died out with the passing
of EISA years ago.  Press F1 at bootup, and you get the hidden partition
coming up.  A lot of searching through Compaq's website, and fighting
through broken links finally got me to a download that (under DOS)
generates a diagnostics diskette that does the "BIOS setup".  This isn't
just old Compaqs, we ran into this on a new one purchased at work last
month.

  The latest problem on my Presario is that RealPlayer 7 installs just
fine, but RealPlayer 8 balks, complaining that the machine is a
"different architecture".  I hope to get this solved, but it's just
another headache.

  I'd recommend a used Dell.  If they have an onboard Yamaha sound chip
don't struggle with it.  Turn it off in BIOS, and get a compatable PCI
soundcard.  It'll save a lot of your hair.  Other than that, Dell is
very good for linux compatability.

-- 
Walter Dnes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:38:30 -0700
From: Johnny Luong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hauppauge WinTV-D Configuration

I can't seem to get a picture or audio from the card from the analog
signal on the tuner using xawtv.

Here is the corresponding dmesg:

bttv: driver version 0.7.57 loaded
bttv: using 2 buffers with 2080k (4160k total) for capture
bttv: Host bridge needs ETBF enabled.
bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 00:0f.0, irq: 16, latency: 32, memory: 0xdb101000
bttv0: subsystem: 0070:3900  =>  Hauppauge WinTV-D  =>  card=10
bttv0: model: BT878(Hauppauge new (bt878)) [autodetected]
bttv0: enabling 430FX/VP3 compatibilty
bttv0: Hauppauge msp34xx: reset line init
i2c-core.o: adapter bt848 #0 registered as adapter 0.
bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom: model=39000, tuner=Philips TD1536D (4), radio=no
bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... found
i2c-core.o: driver i2c msp3400 driver registered.
msp34xx: init: chip=MSP3438G-A1, has NICAM support
msp3410: daemon started
bttv0: i2c attach [MSP3438G-A1]
i2c-core.o: client [MSP3438G-A1] registered to adapter [bt848 #0](pos. 0).
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
tvaudio: TV audio decoder + audio/video mux driver
tvaudio: known chips:
tda9840,tda9873h,tda9850,tda9855,tea6300,tea6420,tda8425,pic16c54 (PV951)
i2c-core.o: driver generic i2c audio driver registered.
i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV tuner driver registered.
tuner: chip found @ 0x61
bttv0: i2c attach [NoTuner]
i2c-core.o: client [NoTuner] registered to adapter [bt848 #0](pos. 1).

I think the problem is mainly in the program xawtv, and I have it
configured the following way:

TV norm:  NTSC
Video Source : Television
Frequency table : us-cable

Audio >
Capture : overlay

Anybody got any ideas?  Message me, as I'm not subscribe to this
newsgroup.

Thanks,
Johnny Luong
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: scanner driver
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Konrad)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:00:14 GMT

Would anyone know if there is a driver written for a UMAX scanner (USB) 
2010U?

Richard

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leon Majewski)
Subject: Re: hardware access
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:02:11 GMT

On 10 Apr 2001 12:25:36 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>It's likely that what you want is to write a device driver 
<snip>
yeah, it seems that way

>Take a look at the documentation for the iopl and ioperm system calls,
>and the file /usr/include/asm/io.h.  Also, buy Rubini's book on Linux
>device drivers 
<snip>
thanks for the references - hopefully they'll get me going in the right 
direction

leon
=========================
Leon Majewski

Remote Sensing & Satellite Research Group
Curtin University of Technology, Perth, Australia

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Paul Pygeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scanner driver
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:28:38 -0400

Richard Konrad wrote:

> Would anyone know if there is a driver written for a UMAX scanner (USB)
> 2010U?
>
 
I think UMAX have never released sources of his driver. So you can try to
http://linux-usb.org.

I've a Plustek 1212U and same situation. No sources driver avalaible. So I 
must use it in Windows only.

Good luck :)
-- 
Mandrake 7.2 (je sais... je sais:))
Kernel 2.4.3, XFree86 4.0.2

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dionysus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 05:07:01 GMT

<SNIP>
>it seems
>that celerons are fine in workstations, but lack a few things in server
>situations

Exactly what is it that they do lack? I thought they only had a
smaller cache with a smaller bandwidth path between it and the cpu?

-d


>
>hs


============================================================
"One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad
"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler .

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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:01:44 +1000
From: Don Gingrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI issue with two cards

Michael Meissner wrote:
> 
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Don Gingrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> > >> Don Gingrich <"gingrich"@melbpc(dot)org(dot).au> wrote:
> > >> But you can force the detection order .. pci
> > >> cards are detected in ascending slot order. Slot 1 (furthest from cpu)
> > >> is detected first. You can reverse the pci scan order too if you
> > >> prefer. It's a boot param.
> > >>
> > >> In general you can force the detection order between two differnet
> > >> drivers by just choosing which driver you load first!
> >
> > > OK, but in the case of already having the drivers in the
> > > kernel this is not an option. BTW where is setting the load
> > > order documented?
> >
> > If both drivers are in the kernel, then you will always get one
> > installed before the other CONSISTENTLY, since you have different
> > dirvers, and the kernel can only load one at a time, and it cannot do
> > two things at once.
> >
> > So you have no problem.
> 
> Until you change your kernel.  Linux 2.4 uses a different order to initialize
> scsi adapters than 2.2 did.

Unfortunately this the precise issue. I am trying to 
upgrade to the 2.4 kernel -- for IP masquerading among 
other reasons. And, since my boot disk is SCSI the order 
that the cards are "seen" is vitally important. A 
previous solution, which I may need to re-implement,
was to make sure that ALL of the HDDs were on the same 
controller -- then device names can simply be controlled 
by SCSI ID. 

The other issue is that since I have an operating 2.2.16 
system I am unwilling to take the risk of renaming and 
re-setting everything so that it will *only* boot the 
2.4.3 -- this is too high risk for my taste.

<major aside discussing similar problems in different
systems>
BTW, at one stage I tried to put Debian slink on the 
system and had similar disk naming problems. Also, 
FWIW, RH-6.2 also swapped the orders. It may well be that
the basic ordering used by RH is different from the 
rest of the distros (NOTE that I have not done anywhere
near enough research to suggest that this is absolutely
true.) The real issue is being able to *force* the 
controller order between versions of the hardware (in
much the same way that the Solaris /etc/path-to-inst
works.) And just so that no-one out there thinks that 
I'm having a go at Linux on this -- I had a real battle 
with a dual-boot Sun E-450 trying to force both boot 
systems to see the sontrollers and disks the same. It's
possible, but difficult. In that case it was necessary 
due to a software RAID that needed to be mounted in both
virtual machine systems.
</aside>

While under normal circumstances it does not matter what
ordering is used for drives, so long as it is consistent--
when moving between kernel or distribution versions the
ordering also needs to be constant or the whole thing can
fall in a heap.

And of course, since I'm trying to use modules for the
boot disk controller, I need to get initrd files to work
correctly. Prefferably two different initrd files, one
for the 2.2 and one for the 2.4 kernel.

Are we having *fun* yet?

> 
> > If one driver is in the kernel, and the other is a module, then the one
> > in the kernel will be loaded first by definition (as the kernel starts
> > before anything takes place in userspace, such as loading modules),
> > CONSISTENTLY.
> >
> > So you have no problem.
> 
> Which is the solution I current ly.
> 
> > If both devices are modules, then they load when you choose to load
> > them, and so the "order is determined by YOU.
> >
> > So you have no problem.
> >

Thanks

-Don
-- 
Don Gingrich            Unix SysAdmin, CS Dept, RMIT Melbourne,Australia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]            All opinions expressed are mine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                       nobody else wants them

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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI issue with two cards
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:07:00 GMT

Don Gingrich wrote:
> 
> The problem is that the kernel seems to get
> confused with more than one card in the system.
> 
> I have too many devices for a single card(at least
> at the moment) and I need to be able to force
> which one is the primary since there are HDDs
> on both and thus the order of drives changes,
> depending on which is primary.
> 
> I've got an adaptec 1542c and a 2940U. Obviously,
> (to a human) the 2940 is the primary. I'm thinking
> that one option may be to put the driver for the
> 2940 in the kernel and make the 1542 a module.
> Does this sound like a good strategy? Any other
> thoughts or suggestions?
> 
> I looked for a FAQ but didn't see one -- sorry
> if this is a repeat.
> 

Coming in on this late, but if you haven't fixed your problem, 
here's a possible solution; turn off the BIOS in the second 
controller.  This is usually done at boot by jumping into the
card BIOS using a CTRL key or with a DOS based utility from a
DOS boot diskett; check your card's docs.  If the BIOS isn't 
enabled, the system will _not_ be able to boot from it and will 
ignore it on boot up.  

Best

Cokey

-- 
==================================================================
F. 'Cokey' de Percin, DBA       Email:
CSC (formerly Mynd)              Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Columbia, South Carolina         Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Mike Carlucci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Phone line network
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:34:29 -0400
Reply-To: "Mike Carlucci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a 10mb phone line network in my house with a phone/Ethernet bridge,
router and cable modem. The phone cards are both Diamond and Netgear and are
HPNA 2.0 standard. Does anyone know where I can find Linux drivers for these
network cards, even beta?

Thanks,

Mike Carlucci



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From: "Elad Lahav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modems
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:58:41 +0200

Anything but a winmodem, aka softmodem, aka HSP modem. PnP modems used to be
a problem, but are now recognized by modern Linux distributions. However,
Mandrake 6.1 is a bit outdated, so if you want to use a PnP modem, I would
recommend that you upgrade. Otherwise, unless your modem is one of the
mentioned above, you may change the jumper settings to configure it to use
Com2.
A new project for winmodem support under Linux is available in
www.linmodems.org, but I would noot recommend these anyway.

                                                Elad

"William Rivera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am a linux newbie and I would like to know if anyone can recommend a
modem
> that works with linux. I have a a system with Win95 and Mandrake 6.1.
> Everything works fine in my system but the modem. A million thanks.
> Bill
>



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From: "Gregg Nemesure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMP motherboard recommendations solicited
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:30:50 -0400

I would like to put together a Linux-based SMP system, but I might need to
run Solaris on it as well.

Some questions:

1. Is Linux SMP still considered experimental, or is it now stable?

2. What dual x86 CPU motherboards are recommended?

3. Are there any that are known to work well with both Solaris and Linux?

4. Are there single CPU motherboards known to work well with both?

Thanks.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Weiskopf)
Subject: Re: CD Writer for Linux
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 03:49:14 +0000 (UTC)

In article <3ad25bae$0$42870$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dances With
Crows wrote:

>I'd stay away from Sony models unless you know from personal testimony
>or the cdrecord website that the exact model you're looking at works.
>Also avoid the IomegaZipCD.  Parport models are too bloody slow, and
>from what I've seen, USB models are coaster factories even under
>"approved" OSes.  Just MHO, HTH.

Just out of curiousity, why do you recommend avoiding the Iomega ZipCD?
I have the 8x4x32 ATAPI model, and it seems to be working okay so
far--although I had the most difficulty getting it to work under cdrdao,
and cdrecord still won't let me use DAO mode.  Is there some specific
problem with the drive itself, or is it a drive/Linux interaction
problem?

Any thoughts, or pointers to documentation of difficulties, would be
very welcome.  I'd be especially gratified to learn that my difficulties
aren't due to my own lack of understanding, especially since I'm
generally pretty fair with Linux and hardware.  Thanks in advance,

DAW

-- 
Daniel Weiskopf
Dept. of Philosophy / Philosophy-Neuroscience-Psychology Program
Washington University in St. Louis
URL: http://www.byz.org/~debaser/

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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't boot off CD (SuSE 7.0)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:06:24 GMT

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On 9 Apr 2001 08:38:16 GMT, Nick Condon staggered into the Black Sun and
> said:
> >Technically, I *can* boot off the CD but after 30 seconds of start up
> >messages, I think it tries to start X and my display just goes blank.
> >Then the monitor starts flashing up an "out of frequency" error. All
> >the disks keep ticking over and the keyboard is still responding to
> >numlock, capslock, etc. I haven't been asked for any parameters at this
> >point.
> >
> >It's all new hardware; a KT7A motherboard, a Matrox G450 graphics card.
> >Any ideas anyone?
> 
> I thought there weren't any problems with G450s... guess not.  You can
> probably do the install in text mode (enter "yast1" or "text" at the
> LILO: prompt; I forget which) and you may need to use xf86config instead
> of SaX to do the X configuration.  You might have better luck with the X
> 4.0.0 on SuSE's CDs than the old standby 3.3.6, or then again, maybe
> not.  It would be a good idea to check c.o.l.hardware for "G450" at
> http://groups.google.com/ just to see if the userbase has run into a
> similar problem in the past....
> 
I couldn't get XFree86 3.3.6 to work with a G450, with similar
symptoms.  Someone else may have figured it out, but I sure didn't. 
XFree86 4.0.2 with the modules downloaded from Matrox works just fine.

Many thanks to the kind soul who put together 4.0.2 rpm's for Red Hat
6.2.  While not related to the OP's problem, I did find the solution
to my problem using deja.

I don't *want* to run RH 7.0, due to the unofficial compiler version,
and general history of ".0" releases.  Am I the only one who would
prefer a 6.3?

-- 
Howard Christeller  Irvine, CA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Mike Tharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Glide and the Voodoo3 with Redhat 7
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:55:37 GMT

To me it sounds like a driver thing, but I don't have much experience with
voodoo3.

Make sure you post this on comp.os.linux.x or 3dfx.glide.linux or maybe
3dfx.products.voodoo3  .   I'm sure there is a more helpful ng out there
that I didn't list.  Somebody somewhere has had the same issues.



"Tim Fultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9asuos$hes$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I hope this isn't off topic here, but my ISPs news server doesn't carry
the
> 3dfx.glide.linux group anymore for some reason.  So can someone please
help.
> How do I get games like UT and others like it to work with my voodoo3???.
> This is what I have and what I have installed so far.
>
> I have a PIII 800, with Intel 815 Chipset, 128mb PC133 DIMM, Maxtor 30gb
> ATA100 hard drive, a SoundBlaster Live! and a Voodoo3 AGP (16mb) card.
> Fresh from scratch, I have installed, RedHat 7.
> I downloaded the following drivers.
> Device3Dfx-2.3-5.src.rpm
> Glide-V3-2.60-16.i386.rpm
> Glide-SDK-2.2-16.i386.rpm
>
> After rebuilding the Device3Dfx.src.rpm (rpm --rebuild etc.)  and rpm -Uvh
> as instructed, I did the same with the Glide-V3 and SDK.  ALL went well.
> After restarting my system, I was unable to perform the test3dfx, glide2x
or
> glide3x in the glide/bin directory.
> Also I installed UTdemo, which is glide ONLY.  It gets to the main screen(
> where you can set preferences, get into the game, etc. but when you
actually
> start a practice session or what ever, the screen turns into this really
> scrambled background of my X background.  The only way out is
> alt,ctrl,backspace.
>
> I have another system with 2 voodoo2's.  I've installed the Voodoo2
drivers
> (same exact method, just voodoo2 drivers) and the tests work fine and the
> UTdemo runs great.  So what's the deal????  I really wanted this to run on
> My system with the voodoo3.  Not my 2nd system.
> Do I have to do anything with the tdfx files or the Glide-V3-DRI file?  I
> have Redhat 7 with xf86 4.0.1.  I assumed that it came already rolling
with
> the tdfx-dr? and the V3-dri.
>
> Can someone HELP PLEASE.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>



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