Netvision w/Cable are bunch of low life SOB's!!! I was connected to Matav +
Netvision for a while but now they had to change it from dialless to VPN.
What a bummer. I switched to ADSL now, cause I want Static IP and Actcom is
the only ISP that gives it for free. Others demand between 20$-30$ / m.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Chudnovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: Israeli ISP's and quality of service...


> I've been suffering some physical disconnections due to bad line and not
so
> strong filters. I don't remember disconnections at ISP level (
Netvision ).
> Maybe it's worth to put a "keep-alive" option in /etc/ppp/options so that
the
> provider do not disconnect you when idle?
> There has not always been maximal speed even for local sites, but then -
it
> could easily be due to the same bad line.
> OK, due to me settling in a new building in a new neighborhood - no more
ADSL
> for me - Bezeq are not ready to provide it in my neighborhood yet. So -
> bye-bye Bezeq, hello Matav.
> BTW - Is anyone here connected to Netvision via cable? I've spent several
> nights trying to connect to their cable VPN server and then discovering
pptp
> miserably fail after just 2 minutes - and the PPP link being dead all the
> time since being established.
> And the reason is  - PPPD. IPCP negotiation provides the remote IP address
> being the same as the address of VPN server. PPPD creates the route to
this
> remote IP address via PPP link. And then - it's a hen and an egg problem.
PPP
> link is over VPN link to VPN server, but to reach VPN server, you've to go
> via PPP link. Dead loop is established, and then pptp timeouts.
> On Thursday 06 June 2002 02:07, Ishay Sommer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > In the last few months I have worked with 3 different ADSL ISP's, using
a
> > linux gateway. At first I worked with Aquanet, and I must say that
> > everything was superb, except for the fact that they limit programs such
as
> > Kazaa and Edonkey. I switched to Kavey Zahav, (which are twice the
price..)
> > and I was quite happy. However, 3 weeks ago, I switched to Netvision
(deal
> > from my employer), and I must say that I am very disappointed due to the
> > disconnections. I use an autodial script, and checking out it
statistics, I
> > see that more than 15% of the time, my connection was down! It is even
more
> > annoying, or maybe it's just my feeling, that I am rarely using the ADSL
> > line, mostly in the morning before I go to work or in the evening when I
> > get back, and most of those times, it is not connecting! This did not
> > happen to me with any other ISP's. Has anyone else been suffering the
same
> > fate?
>
> >
> > Ishay.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Alex Chudnovsky
> e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ : 35559910
>
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