Oleg Kobets wrote:
> 
> Ok then, you might consider looking into ADSL router solution. There is
> hardware router which supports adsl and fr toghether. I think you can also
> have routing and load-balancing and etc between them, since it's one box.
> 
> I don't quite remember the boxs name, but's black, small and cheap (~200$)
> 
> Try looking at Beres in Haifa, Checkpost, I heard they sell it there.

I'm afraid that my need was not understood correctly.

I don't need any router, and/or FR/ADSL balancing;
I already built my own embedded Linux solution, and it works great.

I just need an ISP that supports *BGP* not only over FR, but also over
ADSL.

Otherwise, I'll have to buy a second FR line (buying a second logical
CIR will not help (as described below), and pay many bucks monthly to
Bezeq, and to 2 ISP's. It may exceed the $1K per month !!!  (currently,
ADSL + fast FR + 2 ISP's, cost me TOGETHER a little more than $400).

And of course I don't need any router to balance the TCP sessions that
are initiated inside; The router that I built does it perfectly.

I just need the incoming sessions to reach me through 2 separate lines
(FR and ADSL), although the IP's are the same, which means BGP.

> > Oleg Kobets wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > By the way: Is there any Israeli ISP which provides BGP over ADSL?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, I don't think so. Why would you want BGP over ADSL ? What would it
> give
> > > you ?
> >
> > BGP should be spreaded over 2 lines or more.
> > I am not looking exactly for BGP over ADSL, but more precisely: ADSL+
> > FR.
> >
> > We currenly have 2 lines, FR and ADSL. The TCP sessions which are
> > initiated here, are balanced between them (i.e. most of them are served
> > by the ADSL, unless it is down, when the FR serves them).
> >
> > I just want this balance to be used for sessions which are initiated
> > outside too (i.e. clients which try to access my DMZ).
> >
> > Of course, we can move to 2 FR's instead of 1 FR and 1 ADSL. The
> > reasons for NOT doing it:
> >
> > 1. ADSL is fast. At least for downstream traffic.
> > 2. Why pay Bezeq 1000% more for a second FR, when ADSL is so cheap?
> >    And if you just add a logical connection, then you have a single
> >    point of failure, simultaneous connections from the 2 ISP's are
> >    slow, and the price is still higher than ADSL.
> > 3. I believe that even the payment to the ISP in the case of ADSL,
> >    must be cheaper than 2 FR's.
> > 4. We already hold 1 FR and 1 ADSL, and they work great. Why should we
> >    change this winning team?

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