Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
> BTW - Is anyone here connected to Netvision via cable? I've spent several 
> nights trying to connect to their cable VPN server and then discovering pptp 
> miserably fail after just 2 minutes - and the PPP link being dead all the 
> time since being established.
> And the reason is  - PPPD. IPCP negotiation provides the remote IP address 
> being the same as the address of VPN server. PPPD creates the route to this 
> remote IP address via PPP link. And then - it's a hen and an egg problem. PPP 
> link is over VPN link to VPN server, but to reach VPN server, you've to go 
> via PPP link. Dead loop is established, and then pptp timeouts. 

I am. I got it before they went with the PPTP and was involved with the
PPTP experiment. (not the original experiment, I'm a normal paying
customer).

As you experineced the PPTP fails misereably and I had to give up or get
lynched by my family. :-) On the whole they are ok, as long as you call
the ADSL group and ask for someone that knows cable modems for support.

Your average support person has no idea and will try to help you by
changing your password, haing you wait until Tuesday night when the
linux person is in, etc. 

I have about one failure every two weeks that can't be fixed by either
loging on again or restarting the cable modem, about 50% the time on
Shabbat. Some are the cable companies problem, some are netvision's.

I have a static IP, which is very helpful to me. I'd pay for it if I had
to, but then I'd expect better service so I could run a nameserver on
it.

Support is much better if you set your dns to the cable company's which
always works, and then do a "traceroute -n cnn.com". When you call point
out the IP that it stalls at which is always the cable/netvision
gateway.

Occasionaly you get a support person who does not understand traceroute
in specific or IP routing in general, however one that did not said he
was going to call his tech support to find out what it did and why we
would use it.

On the whole, I'm very happy with it. Performance is usually good, 
support is ok for something so new, and it has dramticaly improved my
teenaged son's understanding of human anatomy and physical relationships.

IMHO it's much more reliable than the ADSL line we have at work, but
not as reliable as a frame relay line. If I were doing it for real, I
would rather have a 64k or 128k frame relay line as they are 99.99999%
reliable and cable is not. For use at home where I run a small mailing
list and have my family use it for web surfing, email, etc, it's great
and I would recommed a cable modem and netvision as the ISP to anyone.

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Bloomberg L.P., BFM (Israel) 2 hours ahead of London, 7 hours ahead of New York.
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