guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 24 Sep 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > > Orna Agmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > the only person who talked to me was trying to hit on me. > > > > Orna, he just saw more in you than just a Linux user... ;-) > > oleg, it is precisely these kinds of comments which drive people crazy. > obviously, you did not get the clue...
Guy, a) You didn't get the smiley or the clue: it's "can't he see more in me than a Barbie doll" (or equivalent) turned inside out. b) In addition, it was certainly meant as a compliment, and I am sure Orna got it. c) Without knowing the circumstances of Orna's encounter at Haifux, I must admit that her comment struck _me_ as a little insensitive. This point often escapes the attention of men and women alike, but have you considered that if a person shows an interest it is already a compliment? And that it would take a bit more than vital stats for an intelligent guy to become interested? I have a feeling that Orna's problem was not that guy but all the rest present who paid no attention to her (as a linux user, which I assume is all she wanted). Seriously, when a woman, especially an attractive one, walks into any gathering with men present, even a geek one, she can, and should, expect some attention. Whether that attention is annoying or pleasant depends on the details, but it is unreasonable to expect anyone to totally shut all the services down (pardon the jargon) just because the setting is a technical lecture. On the contrary, if we both are there we must have something in common... We men should strive to make the attention pleasant and not annoying (or worse). Women should, however, give us some credit and assume that we need something _more_ than a breathing Barbie to consider a woman attractive. Obviously, it goes both ways in our liberated society, but the gender asymmetry above is too stereotypical to ignore. Please don't interpret this as approval of catcalls. I fervently hope that at least the two ladies on this list who have met me personally on a number of occasions think better than that of me. I realize that a clumsy "hit" can be repulsive. In general though, dear ladies, if you sense that I seek your company please consider it a compliment. I promise I'll do my best not to annoy you in the process... With an extra big smiley, -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================================= "... Of theoretical physics and programming, programming embodied the greater intellectual challenge." [E.W.Dijkstra, 1930 - 2002.] ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
