On Tuesday 31 December 2002 14:34, Alex Shnitman wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 09:16, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
> > > I think you missed the main point:
> > >
> > > 5. Bottom line - drives away potential business (customers, partners)
> > > and misses the whole point of having a web site.
> >
> > This they won't agree with, on the basis of "98% of customers use IE
> > so the extra expense is not warranted."
>
> I think the issue is much deeper -- it all comes down to awareness, or
> lack thereof to be more correct. I know a few people who do this kind of
> web development. They either have never heard of Linux, or they've heard
> that there's such a thing but don't know what it is, or they know what
> it is but simply don't make the logical connection that people who use
> Linux don't use IE 6. Or they know what it is and what it means, but
> they don't imagine that more than five people in the country use it. But
> even those people are already quite rare.
That's what the "high-tech boom" has left after it - jetsam, so to say. A lot 
of people ran to study computer-related and Internet-related things and to 
teach these things, not because they were talented in this area, but because 
of high salaries in this area. The first question asked by some college ( not 
even university ) computer course graduates coming to an interview, was "How 
many stock options would I get? What car would I get?", and not "What am I 
going to do in this position? What kind of experience may this position give 
me?". What we have now, is "a drop" of really talented people versus an 
"ocean" of "point-and-clickers". 
>
> It usually goes like this. The boss wants a web site, so he hires a web
> development company to create one. The developers in this company are
> obviously not people with a dozen years of computing experience, but
> people who have gone through a couple-months-long HTML course and have
> some artistic creativity in them. 
And who have learned only Microsoft tools ( except maybe Photoshop) during 
this course and are clear point-and-clickers.
> For them, the criterion for a working
> and well-looking piece of HTML is that it loads in their IE. If they're
> really really sophisticated, they may change their font size or
> resolution a couple of times to see that the site still looks good, but
> most don't (that's really pro stuff). 
It's a plague of Hebrew sites, especially those in Visual Hebrew. Enlarge the 
font a bit, and what should fit on one line and doesn't fit now, becomes 
clearly unreadable. With small font size, it is unreadable as well. You 
should guess where a phrase begins and where it ends.
> They create the site and present
> it to the boss, who loads it in his computer, makes sure that it works,
Or they show to him that it works :-( and "forget" to show him some places 
that don't work.
> admires the bells and whistles which make the site look pretty and
> original, and writes the cheque.
For his marketing book states "be original" and not "be simple". It's a tech 
book that preaches the "KISS".
>
> Linux?! I think asking most of those companies to support Linux is like
> calling your Co-Op, saying that you use a glider to move from place to
> place and complaining that they have no space to park it by their store.
>
> It's all awareness. Neither the web development company nor their client
> think that there are any normal people in their right mind who are not
> using IE. I think it never even gets to the point where they count
> percentages -- in most cases, I think the reaction is more like "go
> away, freak, stop pestering me".
It's right, sad as it may be.
-- 

Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky
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