Hi all!

I noticed a trend when talking to some people face to face, and that is that 
many of them (and I'm referring to smart, expert, even full-fledged hacker 
people) stop reading the Linux-IL mailing list after a while. Their reasons 
vary. Some of the things I heard:

1. Linux-IL is the core of too many flame-wars.

2. Linux-IL has a low signal-to-noise ratio.

Now, the activity on this mailing list seems to still be strong, but I'd 
rather we did not scare people like that. As I stressed before, these are not 
newbies who are overwhelmed. These are smart people who are not "Qotley 
Qinim".

One option is to split this mailing list. One possibility would be:

1. linux-il - mailing list for Q&A and newbie questions.[1] Also announcements 
of events.

2. events coordination. (or is one of @hamakor.org.il mailing lists adequate?)

3. linux-il-cafe or linux-il-non-tech - chit-chat, movies, off-topic 
discussion, humour, philosophy, etc. etc. Technical conversation is also 
welcome. Sometimes conversations will be moved there.

This aims to be a social forum for Linux-IL members so they can get to know 
each other and discuss the things they like.

4. linux-il-wars - discussing Windows vs. Unix, Linux vs. BSD, vi vs. Emcas, 
PostgreSQL vs. MySQL vs. Firebird vs. MaxDB, Perl vs. Python vs. Ruby vs. Tcl 
vs. PHP, Scheme/LISP vs. Perl/Python/Ruby, Java vs. .NET, etc. etc.

Sometimes conversations will be moved there as well from different mailing 
list.

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Any others?

So far, I think it's a good idea.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

[1] - the reason I designate this as such is to avoid the EF-Net 
#perl/#perlhelp effect. What happened was that they got tired of newbie 
questions in #perl so they started #perlhelp. However, Perl newbies 
automatically try #perl at first time, do not read the topic and ask their
question. What they've could have done was designate #perl as a newbies 
channel, and #perlcafe for the advanced users.
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