I think that sometimes even experienced Linux developers have "newbie" questions that relate to areas outside their expertise.
So - being a newbie on a particular topic is nothing to be ashamed about. Regarding flames - I've seen a lot worse; and if you cant flame a bit in the list then where are you supposed to go to rant and vent a bit? my 2 cents Danny Lieberman OSI-Open Solutions Israel +972-8-970-1485(voice) +972-54-471114(Cell) www.opensolutions.co.il ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herouth Maoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shlomi Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [Meta] Smart People "Leaving" Linux-IL > Quoting Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > One option is to split this mailing list. One possibility would be: > > > > 1. linux-il - mailing list for Q&A and newbie questions.[1] Also > > announcements > > of events. > > (snip) > > First, the list was not supposed to be a newbie list in any case, so this first > one doesn't make sense. I'm sure people don't want to downgrade this list into > a newbie list, and that's why there is a different mailing list call gnubies. > > Second, the "forum" method in which you move threads into a different forums > when they become irrelevant for the discussion is not applicable to mailing > list. There is no sane person who will subscibe to a linux-il-wars list. Most > of us subscribe to lists for sane reasons, and start a flame war incidentally, > wishing in general that there are less flame wars and more info. > > Also, how exactly do you move a discussion? And how do you cause a person who is > subscribed to one mailing list to be aware that there is a discussion going on > in another list to which he is not subscribed? In a forum system, there are > various ways to do that. First, they are all available to everybody, and you > can look in from time to time, and second, there are usually things like "last > messages posted" areas in the main page which tell you something. You can also > keep track of your thread even if it moved, if you have asked for email updates > on it, because even when it moves, you still get the e-mail reminders. > > All of which doesn't happen in mailing lists and would be too convoluted to try > to implement by social engineering. > > In my many years of mailing list and forum experience, I came to one sad > conclusion: in order for a mailing list to be productive, with low noise and > high content, it has to have strict rules, and ruthless and very active > moderators, who are not ashamed to kick people out when they break the rules > after they have been warned. > > Herouth > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
