Well, Here's how I feel. I am somewhere in between a newbie and a poweruser.
Often the more technical things are above my head but I find that later I use that information and would sure miss it, as I would not enjoy having to subscribe to an extra list (I count 12 I am currently subscribed to). The newbie stuff aslo is good, sometimes I even get to answer such a question :). If the war issues is the main issue what about a rule against them and or at least not letting them get deep ie multithreaded as sometimes happens. In either case, I get answers here I often don't find any other place. BTW howmany people are we talking about who are staying away? Is it 2 or 22? Maybe these people would stay away even with the changes suggested?? Maybe before making a drastic move, you could ask them.... Anyways I really enjoy the group and hope it continues. Thanks Aaron On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 16:08, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi all! > > I noticed a trend when talking to some people face to face, and that is that > many of them (and I'm referring to smart, expert, even full-fledged hacker > people) stop reading the Linux-IL mailing list after a while. Their reasons > vary. Some of the things I heard: > > 1. Linux-IL is the core of too many flame-wars. > > 2. Linux-IL has a low signal-to-noise ratio. > > Now, the activity on this mailing list seems to still be strong, but I'd > rather we did not scare people like that. As I stressed before, these are not > newbies who are overwhelmed. These are smart people who are not "Qotley > Qinim". > > One option is to split this mailing list. One possibility would be: > > 1. linux-il - mailing list for Q&A and newbie questions.[1] Also announcements > of events. > > 2. events coordination. (or is one of @hamakor.org.il mailing lists adequate?) > > 3. linux-il-cafe or linux-il-non-tech - chit-chat, movies, off-topic > discussion, humour, philosophy, etc. etc. Technical conversation is also > welcome. Sometimes conversations will be moved there. > > This aims to be a social forum for Linux-IL members so they can get to know > each other and discuss the things they like. > > 4. linux-il-wars - discussing Windows vs. Unix, Linux vs. BSD, vi vs. Emcas, > PostgreSQL vs. MySQL vs. Firebird vs. MaxDB, Perl vs. Python vs. Ruby vs. Tcl > vs. PHP, Scheme/LISP vs. Perl/Python/Ruby, Java vs. .NET, etc. etc. > > Sometimes conversations will be moved there as well from different mailing > list. > > ---------- > > Any others? > > So far, I think it's a good idea. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > [1] - the reason I designate this as such is to avoid the EF-Net > #perl/#perlhelp effect. What happened was that they got tired of newbie > questions in #perl so they started #perlhelp. However, Perl newbies > automatically try #perl at first time, do not read the topic and ask their > question. What they've could have done was designate #perl as a newbies > channel, and #perlcafe for the advanced users. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
