I know that more then once, I discover new information about things on flame-wars between two (or more) peope that DO know what they are talking about... For example, one of the reason I stoped using few things in my computer is because of a flame-ware that I read once...Hi all!
I noticed a trend when talking to some people face to face, and that is that many of them (and I'm referring to smart, expert, even full-fledged hacker people) stop reading the Linux-IL mailing list after a while. Their reasons vary. Some of the things I heard:
1. Linux-IL is the core of too many flame-wars.
I found myself few times since I first register, sorry to ever ask the question in the first place... For example take alot at a suggestion I gave in behalf of a friend, that wanted to give back to the open-source community, because the open-source helped his company.
2. Linux-IL has a low signal-to-noise ratio.
And I can put some ore things...
Now, the activity on this mailing list seems to still be strong, but I'd rather we did not scare people like that. As I stressed before, these are not newbies who are overwhelmed. These are smart people who are not "Qotley Qinim".
One option is to split this mailing list. One possibility would be:
1. linux-il - mailing list for Q&A and newbie questions.[1] Also announcements of events.
2. events coordination. (or is one of @hamakor.org.il mailing lists adequate?)
3. linux-il-cafe or linux-il-non-tech - chit-chat, movies, off-topic discussion, humour, philosophy, etc. etc. Technical conversation is also welcome. Sometimes conversations will be moved there.
This aims to be a social forum for Linux-IL members so they can get to know each other and discuss the things they like.
4. linux-il-wars - discussing Windows vs. Unix, Linux vs. BSD, vi vs. Emcas, PostgreSQL vs. MySQL vs. Firebird vs. MaxDB, Perl vs. Python vs. Ruby vs. Tcl vs. PHP, Scheme/LISP vs. Perl/Python/Ruby, Java vs. .NET, etc. etc.
Sometimes conversations will be moved there as well from different mailing list.
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Any others?
So far, I think it's a good idea.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
[1] - the reason I designate this as such is to avoid the EF-Net #perl/#perlhelp effect. What happened was that they got tired of newbie questions in #perl so they started #perlhelp. However, Perl newbies automatically try #perl at first time, do not read the topic and ask their
question. What they've could have done was designate #perl as a newbies channel, and #perlcafe for the advanced users.
The rest of what I have to say people already said before this post...
Ido
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