Hi,
I had this happen as far as price was concerned. I just compared the
price others were getting for the same or more service and threatened to
switch to the other company and I got a better price.

The dialer issue I never even fought though, and you are right the
dailer is a pain, I had no idea there was a choice to connect without a
dialer. Are you talking adsl or cable?

Aaron
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:07 +0300, Ido Kanner wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> Recently I updated my 4 years old account in Actcom (this is my 4th year).
> After watching the price of the account in my office, I found out that I pay a
> lot more for a lot less. That is I pay 760 NIS for 750 without a dialer, while
> at work we pay a lot less for a faster connection. 
> 
> BTW I was told that if I'll move to a dialer, it will cost me 200 NIS less !!!
> 
> After a long talk with the finance, I found out that the reason for that is
> that I do not use a dailer, and the CO of Actcom decided that users without a
> dialer should pay more, alto as most of you know, the infurstracture and the
> technical stuff for Radius and other servers that are working in the 
> background
> requires a lot more work (not to mention the support team that need to handle
> very stupid issues such as passowrd lost, incurrect login issues etc) ...
> 
> The finance person also mentioned that I need to pay more, because a dialer
> gives them (Actcom) the ability to monitor connections. But on LAN (you all 
> know
> that cables connection is a LAN) you can monitor activities as well, and not 
> to
> mention that a dialer and the rest of the servers that you pass along the way
> makes the connection slower.
> 
> Now don't get me wrong, I really like Actcom, and the fact that they support 
> our
> community is a hugh Plus for me, and thats even before I mention their very 
> good
> tech and Linux support etc..
> 
> But I do not wish to have a dialer, And I do not like the fact that the user
> should handle PPP connections for such thing. ADSL btw also does not really
> requires user intervention (L2TP is the protocol that ADSL talks, and
> theoretically the ADSL router should make the converting between Ethernet and
> ADSL on it's own).
> 
> BTW If they will not give a better price, I don't think that I will continue
> working with them next year ...
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> Ido
> 
> 
> 
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