>>>>> "Suresh" == Ramasubramanian,Suresh  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >> places, like ORBS. Even IRC servers, ban *!*@*.hobbiton.org and
    >> so on

    Suresh> Pardon????? AFAIK, ORBS blocks only open relays.  Not

        It does? umm, maybe I didn't mean ORBS. Let me re-check.

    Suresh> places that offer throwaway shell accounts.  Of course,
    Suresh> Alan Brown sets up his own blocks for various reasons, but

        Um, who'se Alan Brown? Pardon the ignorance. And yes, I *did*
see some fwd's from you, about his fundas on RAID.

<off topic rant, feel free to ignore>

    >> and so forth. On the other hand ,check out zippy.shellyeah.org
    >> ... its a lot of pain getting a shell.. but its worth it.

    Suresh> I'll pass for now - freenet.nether.net is pretty good
    Suresh> (fast and powerful).  In any case, I have kcircle.com -
    Suresh> that is more than enough for me 

        zippy == SunOS 5.7 - *I* personally don't have access to any
box that runs SunOS , though I *did* have root on a friend's SunOS 5.6 
box ... and thats why I mentioned zippy. Yes, freenet is good,
too... and also, another interesting thing .. there are a couple bugs
in hobbiton's mail system,... which you can exploit - I don't know
about r00t h4x0ring.. but there *is* some sort of an open relay
procedure.
        
        And another exploit on freenet lets you run backgrounded
processes , ... I'm contemplating writing to root && postmaster at
both places, about this stuff sometime, once I am convinced that it is 
really an exploit :> There's also a $10 reward for reporting r00t
exploits, on hobbiton (i think) .. so lemme see if I can get the $10
<g>

        ironically, both places, use newuser to give away
accounts. Well, SDF Lonestar Public Access UNIX systems uses newuser,
too , and they have hardcore uptimes, and slick access services...but
to date, I know of no exploits on SDF :>

        
</rant>

    Suresh> -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your
    Suresh> fault -- core dumped

        Use windows, no coredumps :> Actually, doesn't windows put the 
core equivalent stuff into some log(?) files, somewhere?

                                                                -- ravi

-- 
Ravikant K.Rao | http://www.symonds.net/~ravi/
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