On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 01:58:12PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Hi,
> >ssh tunnel? Can you be a bit more specific please? I would like to know
> >about it more.
> 
> For example, to tunnel your.shell.server port 25 (the smtp port on your 
> shell server) to localhost port 2525 you would do -
> 
> $ ssh -2 -C [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 2525:localhost:25

You are tooo coool.

> That'd establish a tunnel between localhost:25 on the shell and 
> localhost port 2525 on your desktop linux box (you can also do this with 
> PuTTY on windows - google for howtos)

I got this working on Linux on one ISP. Another ISP which provides me
shell connection (staticky.com) didn't allow this.
Can you tell me in *english* what the command did? I mean I understand
what is -2, -C  and somewhat what is -L but in plain enaglish what does
this do? Please don't use the word "tunnel", it is so broad :)

> The mail will then go out through that shell server.

But are we doing something legal? If the webmaster has closed down SMTP
for me he must have his/her reasons. Is it legal to use "tunnel" to go
thru'. Can I lose my account due to this.

> Use a dialup by all means - just set your qmail or whatever to smarthost 
> through your ISP's smtp server or some other smtp server you have access 
> to using smtp auth.

Assume I want to mail you using [EMAIL PROTECTED], what do I do?
VSNL/BSNL guys won't give me shell account, neither does rediff.

> 80 Mbits mail traffic per day would go to something like 90..100 million 
> emails a day.  Hardly anything?  Sure.

Again, you mean 80Mb right? I don't know the mail count. But I am
working in a small ISP parttime as a replacement for a friend and one of
their server is handling 450-500Mb mails everday and they don't find it
heavy. There are just 300 domains on the server.

> >lists.sourceforge.net, but when I send the mail the mail insists on
> >going out of some-domain.com which rightly rejects it.
> >In this situation how do I send mails to lists.sourceforge.net?
> 
> Is the smtp server on some-domain.com set up to relay for your dialup 
> IP?  Either it supports pop before smtp ... or it is compiled with AUTH 
> support, then it can relay for you.

No, you are not getting the point. Assuming you are familar with qmail.
Assume that I have patched my qmail-remote to handle SMTP-AUTH,
rahul.net:softhome.net <encrypted username> <encryted password>

Now, all mails to rahul.net will be sent using softhome.net SMTP.
This assumes that I have a softhome address.
Now, if I want to send a mail from my local machine with an address
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the mail won't go, because control/smtproutes will make
it go via. softhome.net and softhome.net won't accept the mail.
Are you getting me?

> In this situation you'd set up a smarthost that uses AUTH in smtproutes 
> (and patch serialmail or qmail-smtpd to auth to the smarthost).
> 
> Or if you are on a dishnet dialup you'd use dishnet's smarthost there in 
> the smtproute (this is not recommended given the extreme stupidity of 
> ISPs like dishnet - but there are lots of free providers out there who 

dishnets sucks. dishnet sucks. dishnet sucks.
When I try to send a mail to my friend with disnet address, I get an
SMTP deferral that the server is too busy. Are those guys serious?

> give free shells, and free smtp auth capable accounts - or there are 
> lots of webhosts that support smtp auth for roaming clients, and offer 
> unlimited email addresses for a domain, at $9.95 a month and up).

Are you in US? 

> Hmm you could use an isp like satyam - they use qmail, which you seem to 
> like (I hate qmail though)

You hate qmail???????????????????????? It is VERY cute. It is the best
MTA around. And now, I hate your reverse helo practice more.
Wish I become your client so I can complain to your boss about your
practice :)

With warm regards,
-Payal

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