Linux-Misc Digest #386, Volume #18 Mon, 28 Dec 98 21:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Wich Window Manag.for my 486 ?? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Can't get mail (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
(joseph_a_philbrook__iii)
Re: Mount (or /dev/cdrom) problem (David Philippi)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Victor Danilchenko)
Slackware installation questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Firewalling SUNRPC-service (James Youngman)
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Marc)
Real Player Plugin and Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's (NF Stevens)
Re: Wich Window Manag.for my 486 ?? (Codifex Maximus)
Re: What is the CDs for (Brian Davis)
Re: Java crashes Netscape 4.05 (Ken Howells)
Re: Infringement of the GPL (steve mcadams)
Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Infringement of the GPL (steve mcadams)
Re: The goal of Open Source (steve mcadams)
Re: Epson Stylus 500 with Red Hat 5.1? (Gary Momarison)
Re: USB in Linux? (Gary Momarison)
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Mike Thoreson)
Downloading HOWTO ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: From a Linux dummy (Davide Duran)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Wich Window Manag.for my 486 ??
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:29:03 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:50:56 -0600, Codifex Maximus...
..and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Airwolf wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm looking for a Windon Manager that would not eat 95% of my CPU time
> > (486 D4 100 with 50 Mb ram).
Try lwm, and use dfm as your file manager. Makes up for one megabyte total
memory usage. Alternatively, get uwm at <URL: http://www.ude.org>, but you
need to get used to it.
mawa
--
Matthias Warkus | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dyson Spheres for sale!
My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Can't get mail
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:27:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:07:50 -0800, Tanner McCarron...
..and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Red Hat 5.0. I recently figured out how to connect to internet.
> Now I can send mail, browse the web, ftp , usenet, etc., but I have yet
> to recieve any mail. I've been through many configuration files and
> tried all the mail programs I can find. Anyone have a hint?
Probably your mail goes to a POP3 server, nah? You need to fetch it from
there. Not a big thing. Use fetchmail.
To get fetchmail, go to Eric S. Raymond's Web page at <URL:
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr>, get past the political statements and the
photos of ESR's guns and find it somewhere. It comes with a pretty graphical
configurator, but the configuration file is pretty much plain English, so it
shouldn't be hard to do the config by hand.
It's probably the most popular POP3 client there is.
mawa
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Matthias Warkus | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dyson Spheres for sale!
My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joseph_a_philbrook__iii)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 28 Dec 1998 17:40:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Pittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Wouldn't it make more sense in the long run to use a tool that didn't waste
>your time with ease of learning?
Ummmnnn NO!
But it would make more since to make sence to use a tool that doesn't keep
on wasting your time with difficult to bypass learning aids...
Since I don't believe the gui only tool will ever be a modal ofd efficiancy
and thus can't possibly become a model for long term ease of use, I'm asking
for those who are actualy able to write effective eficiant software that
doesn't "waste" the experts time with ease of learning aids that can't be
commented out of the configuration files to please also include ease of
learning aids so that even MS converts can learn to use it.
If the said software's learning tools provide instruction on the more
efficiant method the experts find useful, while allowing the newbie to use
the dang thing (in a less efficiant way <g>) that provides him/her with
accurate informitive reasons to read well written docs (preferably
accessable from within the tutorial gui) that they might even learn to think
again... Thus they too can become proficiant experts who can safely
dissengage the gui tutorial aids that experts don't need by using their
newfound skills to edit it out of the configuration file...
Besides, if enough of you expert programers do that, I might even find some
software that I too can learn to use well and won't have to annoy so many
people by begging for easy to use cli software in threads like this...
<I wish this last comment was said in jest, but since I don't find gui's
easy to learn, and can seldom find the right <current> docs for what I'm
trying to learn to do, without wading through so much technobabble that I
can't find the often simple answer in it anyway, I despairately need the
learning aid concepts that are usualy only built into the gui's to be
available to me while trying to figure out how to cli my way trough it, so
please, please, please... lets make sure that eficiant software has easy to
learn wrappers or something, so that maybe I'll be to busy using them to
waste the bandwidth here by complaining about a lack that I lack the
expertize to fix, and thus can only offer half thought out ideas rather than
working solutions...
please
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<O> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
^
\___/ < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Philippi)
Subject: Re: Mount (or /dev/cdrom) problem
Date: 28 Dec 1998 12:11:10 GMT
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:43:16 GMT, Boris Statnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mount -o ro -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device
> (maybe `insmod driver'?)
Does /dev/cdrom exist?
> I have tried other cd devices, incl. /dev/hdc1 just in case. I have
> also tried insmod isofs. Any ideas?
The right device for a ide cdrom could be /dev/hdc - without a number.
You should also try 'cat /proc/modules' to see wheter there is a isofs
module or not.
Bye David
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:32:49 -0500
From: Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Floyd Davidson wrote:
>
> Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why is it disgusting? This is, for my CS department, the method of
> >choice for keeping everything orderly. You don't want to answer endless
> >questions like "uhhh, duh, I can't run app blah-blah-blah" by telling
> >them "prepend /export/share/blah/bin to your path". Much easier for all
> >parties involved to simply put all the symlinks into one directory, and
> >maintain them via scripts. Less pain for tech support, less pain for
> >users, and everything is still nice and orderly.
>
> You aren't seriously linking the X11R6 bin progs that way are you?
X11R5. We have a VERY heterogeneous environment here, and R6 cannot be
made universal.
> The right way is to prepend it to the PATH variable defined in
> /etc/profile.
>
> BTW, what would a "share" directory be doing in a PATH statement?
It's a department LAN supporting about 10 different UNIX flavors, and a
few hundreds machines (most of the Alpha, Solaris, and Linux). One thing
you do NOT want to do is make changes local to every system (many of the
Linux boxes are actually Linux/Windows dual boot). The "right way"
simply is not viable is such an environment.
BTW, it's "share" -- as opposed to "common". Platform-dependent vs.
platform-independent stuff. the decision was made before I came here.
--
| Victor A. Danilchenko CSCF support |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] A313, 5-4231 |
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| Quando omni flunkus, moritati. |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Slackware installation questions
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:12:17 GMT
Let me give you a short feedback on my Slackware installation
process that may perhaps help others in similar situations.
I have also a few questions.
I was able to install Linux on a system-without-CDROM with the help
of a Laptop-with-CDROM. It turned out that I had to install the A-series
from diskettes and then I could install some other series from a DOS
partition on the hard-drive of the target machine (copied there with
Norton Commander). The target system is a Siemens-Nixdorf PCD-4Lsx,
a simple 486 system with 8 meg memory, 25Mhz clock and a 250 Mb Linux
partition. The video card is a Cirrus CL-GD5428 with 1M memory, probably
SVGA but certainly VGA compatible.
So now the system works somewhat, but... I have the following problems:
1. My mouse (I think it is a Microsoft bus mouse, but how to find out?)
does not work at all. The command gpm produces a screen full of hex dump etc.
2. I cannot get XFree86 to work. Even XF86Setup hangs my system. Is
there a simple configuration file that will (almost) always get the system in
graphics mode? I do not have the original XF86Config anymore. (Except on the
CDROM but I do not know how to find it without a reinstall)
I have also another question: How do I find out what has been installed on
my system and which commands I can use at all?
Regards, Michiel
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 28 Dec 1998 12:54:16 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Let me add my $0.02 of opinion here,
>
> On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 15:42:56 GMT, Anthony Ord wrote these
> thought provoking words :
>
> -> >Personally I think they are wonderful, well at least an API is
> -> >wonderful.
> ->
> -> What was wrong with the .INI file API?
>
> I don't know if this is related but I have a book here on the 9x/NT
> registry that states that the maximum size of an .ini file is 64Kb.
> This is why software vendors supplied .ini files of their own before
> the registry was designed.
>
> Because there was such a plethora of ini files all over the system
> there were hierarchical problems associated with this. If the win.ini
> file had a particular setting and an application's .ini file overrode
> that setting, who was responsible and where should a system-wide
> setting that had priority be made?
>
> The ini files could easily be edited and tampered with by the
> inexperienced and mistakes could be made. Security was also an issue.
>
> The registry file size can be up to 40MB and it was made complex on
> purpose.
>
> Interesting.......Any comments?
we still live with system-wide vs user-level vs application setting
conflicts. so what if a .ini file could only be 64Kb? you have a
plethora of them and their total can be far greater than that. and if
a particular .ini file got hosed, chances are that you could get back
and fix it since there'd be enough functionality left to do so.
ok so now all eggs are in one basket. how is security helped by this?
now you run around with one read/writable (because applications are
braindamaged and want to write) registry in which any application can
fry the settings of any other.
add to this mix the fact that microsoft refuses to support registry
corruption issues. yes, i've called them on the phone about a floppy
install of office95 which got escalated until a more senior support
guy told me flatly that microsoft support doesn't encompass repairing
broken registries and that if reinstallation of everything didn't
help, i was just shit of out luck.
--
johan kullstam
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Firewalling SUNRPC-service
Date: 28 Dec 1998 18:55:59 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm trying to shield RPC-services from my machine. My machine uses a
> couple of IP-addresses and I'm trying to use ipfwadm to shield port
> 111 (udp & tcp) from the outside world. My local network must still
That is not sufficient. Your NFS server (or whatever) can be
completely compromised even if the attacker can't contact the
portmapper. See Cheswick & Bellovin's book for more information.
> have access to this port. For some reason my machine's primary
> IP-addresses is now shielded, but the other IP-addresses are still
> open. What should I do?
--
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:33:20 GMT
I have to agree,,,I used to to phone support for an ISP so I know how it is out
there,,it is the same as it is with linux, most users cannot figure out how to set up
a ppp connection right out of the box with 98 either,,,they ahve to call the ISP to
walk them through it! :) the only difference here is that we are not calling isp's we
are banding together to help one another,,
:)
Joe Zeff wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>Keyword here "Bought" assuming you are going to go the cheap route and install
> >>workstation you are looking at about $200 for a copy of NT workstation.
> >
> >W98 is for less than $90. I bought Redhat from frys for $60. is $30 all this
> >fuss about?
>
> Not relevant. He wasn't comparing RedHat to W98 but to NT. The rest
> of your complaints boil down to pretty much the same. You keep
> comparing apples to oranges and missing the point. Yes, *when* the
> various Winderz products work they're easier to use than Linux.
> However, they're less configurable and the error messages are often
> either cryptic or unhelpful. I know, as I do tech support for an ISP,
> mostly on Winderz products. The bottom line is, IMHO, if you want a
> point'ndrool interface, give Micro$lop your money. If you want to be
> able to customize the wazoo out of your box, go Linux.
>
> ---
> Joe Zeff
> The Guy With the Sideburns
> I'm a pessimist, not a masochist.
> http://www.lasfs.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Real Player Plugin and Netscape
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:28:28 GMT
I am trying to get RealPlayer 5.0 to work as a plugin with Netscape 4.5. I
followed the plugin instructions for realplayer. RP works fine stand alone.
When I click on a RP link, realplayer starts but that is all. The video/audio
doesn't stream. If RP is active and I click on a link, I get a message saying
it can't open another instance of RP. Any suggestions? Should the "download to
directory" be specified in the dialog window? Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:40:12 GMT
Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Ken C. Moellman Jr." wrote:
>
>> --
>>
>> I was given an IBM 386sx16. It uses Microchannel Archetecture. I had
>> wanted to use this box for ipfwadm and such. Any chance this will work
>> for me? I've heard linux just barely has support for MicroChannel
>> Archetecture (which normally wouldn't be an issue, since microchannel is
>> dead).
>>
>> thanks,
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>
>You might be able to get the MCA stuff working, but I don't think you can
>use a
>386sx. I'm pretty sure you must have a DX.
>
>Linux requires the 32 bit 386 DX..
I'd be surprised if that were the case since the only real difference
between the sx and dx is that the sx only has a 24 bit address bus
so can only physically address 16M of memory.
Norman
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From: Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wich Window Manag.for my 486 ??
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:50:56 -0600
Airwolf wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for a Windon Manager that would not eat 95% of my CPU time
> (486 D4 100 with 50 Mb ram).It will be definitly not KDE (tested with a
> lot of patience). I'm thinking about fvwm95 because my girl friend need
> to use also my computer. Is it fast enough to run on my gear ?? I've
> been on many site dealing with the different WM but no one is talking
> about speed.
> Thanks a lot
> --
>
> Cedric MASCLET
> INSA Complexe Scientifique de Rangueil
> F 31 077 Toulouse Cedex 4 - tel: 05 61 55 95 13
> ---------
> Ecrivez moi mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ou visitez le Labo http://st06.gmm.insa-tlse.fr/
Blackbox is pretty small and simple. Nice looking too!
twm is about as minimalist as you can get without being bare X.
FileRunner provides a great filemanager/ftpclient/archiver/fileinfo tool.
It is very small and powerful.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Davis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the CDs for
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:52:36 GMT
On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:00:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ehonda) wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> I got Redhat 5.1 with 3 CDs and i use one CD to install
> the system.What are the other 2 CDs for and how to use it to
>
> install to the system ?
> Kindly please advise step by step.
> Any help is highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
RTFM
Brian Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Ken Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Java crashes Netscape 4.05
Date: 28 Dec 1998 16:59:44 PST
Thanks for the input.
I got Netscape going a while back by editing the /etc/profile
settings, as you suggest. After looking around a bit for a
Java IDE I settled on (and paid for) Simplicity - it has a good
mix of helping out with generated code, but deosn't force you
to do things IT'S way, like NetBeans.
I'll check out that JIT you mentioned.
Thanks again,
Ken Howells
Codifex Maximus wrote:
>
> Ken Howells wrote:
>
> >[stuff]
> > Any help greatly appreciated. Pointers on setting up a JDE (I
> > downloaded
> > all the Blackdown stuff last night) would also be a great help.
> > If you want to see my work visit
> > http://www.willswing.com/colors/color_selector_s.htm
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ken Howells
>
> Your app looks pretty slick! :)
>
> --
>
> =======================================
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> My opinions are mine alone - though others may borrow...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:01:22 GMT
On 28 Dec 1998 01:17:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
wrote:
>From your postings to date, I'm amazed that you're considering either the
>GPL or the LGPL. It sounds like you want to earn money by selling your
>software, which is fine, but it's not something you'll do well at with the
>GPL. So do you have an actual reason for considering the GPL?
Not the GPL, but perhaps the LGPL. It could be appropriate for a
general purpose cross-system library that would "replace" MFC, which
would subsequently be used in commercial apps. Although the more I
read about the GPL and the FSF, the less I like the idea.
> You've been making sweeping, general attacks on the GPL
Actually I have not intentionally made any attacks on the GPL at all,
I have simply been asking about how it works, asking questions, and
commenting on the responses.
> GPL probably isn't right for you. It is for others. End of story.
Probably. The more I learn about GPL and Stallman's philosophy, the
less I like it.
>Again, you're mis-reading my post, and I don't appreciate the implied
>comparison of myself with Hitler.
Apologies. Whenever someone says the individual should suffer so
mankind can benefit, that's who comes to mind. I regret that you were
offended. -steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:38:31 GMT
Ben Russo writes:
> You might be able to get the MCA stuff working, but I don't think you can
> use a 386sx. I'm pretty sure you must have a DX. Linux requires the 32
> bit 386 DX..
The only difference between the SX and the DX is that the SX does some
multiplexing to reduce the cpu pin count. This is invisible to software.
Linux will work on a 386SX16. MCA may give you some grief, however.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:01:20 GMT
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:58:37 -0500, Victor Danilchenko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What makes him think that GPL is a good thing? Perhaps it's just a
>different mentality. We are selfish by nature, but we as a species have
>gotten this far by cooperating. We can transcend our genetic
>programming, which is what many people do.
It's easy to be unselfish when you have plenty. Has nothing to do
with transcendance. Show me a millionaire who has given everything
away and now lives in poverty, and I'll consider that perhaps some
transcendance may have occurred. If it's not demonstrable mental
illness<g> -steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: The goal of Open Source
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:01:16 GMT
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:22:53 -0500, Victor Danilchenko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, you most certainly have created something that is useful -- the
>point of distinction here is that, once you created it, it costs nothing
>to create other copies of it. Yes, you should be compensated for writing
>it -- however, once it is written, insisting upon charging money for
>something that costs nothing to you (costs nothing now, that you have
>written it) is not nice either. Remember, what you have created is an
>IDEA, not a thing -- an idea that the entire society can benefit from.
In other words, there is no mechanism in the FSF paradigm by which I
can be paid for the work I have done; the best I can look forward to
is being "qualified" to do more work for which I might be paid.
Right?
>FSF, in this respect, proposes a very utilitarian thing -- the greatest
>good for the greatest number, maximisation of overall utility.
Sounds like communism to me, but politics was never something I paid a
lot of attention to.
> In short, "the right thing" is to have a different compensation model
>from the current commercial software -- and FSF have one (sell services,
>not ideas). Whether this ethical point will be taken is a different
>matter...
It's not clear to me that there's anything wrong with the current
compensation model, aside from the fact that MS has established a
monopoly and is overcharging for everything. -steve
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus 500 with Red Hat 5.1?
Date: 28 Dec 1998 17:06:28 -0800
Bill Schoolcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
> I've been hacking all night trying to "connect the dots"
> with
> ghostscript 5.50, and my Epson Stylus Color 500 inkjet with Red Hat
> 5.1
>
> I'm tired of rebooting to windows-95 just to print a color
> page
> from my browser. Can you offer any help?
Try "gs --help" and see if "uniprint" or "stcolor" are
"available devices". If not, you'll need to get a "gs" that
has one, or rebuild the program from the sources with one
enabled.
I'm assuming you've got the "lpd/lpr/printcap" stuff OK.
There are Epson (one 500) resources in Gary's Encyclopedia at
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/printing.html
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB in Linux?
Date: 28 Dec 1998 17:15:58 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is it possible to use USB devices in Linux? I've got a QuickCam, and sooner
> or later, there might be a video4linux app that can use them - but what
> about USB?
There's a couple of USB links in Gary's Encyclopedia at
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/hardware-misc.html#usb
Only one is Linux-specific. Doesn't sound good.
You might check out recent kernel changes at http://www.kernel.org
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From: Mike Thoreson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:09:28 +0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <zmAh2.2159$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >In article <766d1l$22g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Sergei Gerasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I've been working on this problem for 4 days already. I've had three nights
> >>when I went to bed at 8 a.m.! Here is the problem. I bought a RedHat
>
> You could have bought an NT, and in 5 minutes had this done...
5 minutes, really?
>
>
> This is a typical Unix junk that we have to live with...
Why do you feel this is typical Unix junk we have to live? We and you are free
to choose Linux/Unix/Microsoft/OS2/BeOS or what ever else tickles your keyboard.
You don't have to read these posts unless you desire. If you're happy with NT
fine. I use NT at work. At home I dual boot and am happy to use both Win 98 and
Linux. Which anyone else can choose to do if they so desire. It's your choice.
If your employer has chosen for you, then that's your employers right. If you
feel you can help someone with connecting Linux to their ISP by telling them
they should have bought NT then that's your opinion, which you are free to have
and express. Doesn't solve their problem though, unless they want to take your
advice and spend the money. I'll admit Linux probably isn't for everyone, but
it's free to try. Oh excuse me maybe $ 2.99 plus shipping and handling for a CD
set.
>
>
> People brag and shout how wonderfull and powerfull UNIX is...
I guess you're happy with NT. Don't we have a right to be happy with something
else? And brag about it? Does that intrude on your space somehow?
>
>
> But if it can be done on Windows, why can't it be done on Linux? ...
Has been. Is free. Probably takes a little longer then 5 mins. But hey, what do
you care, you have NT.
>
>
> Erick.
I use Debian which might be more difficult then RedHat. But I've also installed
RedHat and found it to be no more difficult than installing NT server. But I
guess I'm not 1 of the 99% who only care about how easy it is to turn the
computer on or off. Oh and I change my own oil too.
Mike.
OS - FREE to choose, but you have to buy if it's from Micro$oft :-)
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Subject: Downloading HOWTO
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:58:33 GMT
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From: Davide Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From a Linux dummy
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 02:23:45 +0100
With the 2.0 kernel you can use loadable kernel modules.
The book is probably old.
To install the PPP module go into /etc/modules;
you should add the PPP to the kernel. Modules have .o extension,
so, the PPP module should have a name like ppp.o
Use the command:
insmod ppp.o
to load the module
You can see all the loaded modules with:
lsmod
Once you installed the ppp.o module you can use the PPP connection
If you need to use ppp with X, I give you a hint:
use ezppp ... it's great!!
byebye
Davide
Sergei Gerasenko wrote:
>
> I have a stupid question. I just installed Linux with the 2.0 kernel and it
> didn't have PPP support. So, according to a Linux book I decided to
> recompile the kernel. The first obstruction I encountered was that I
> couldn't find the compiling program, that is "make". Where the heck can I
> get it? It seems like there are source files for "make" but one needs
> another copy of "make" to compile those source files. Is there a
> ready-to-use copy of "make" somewhere on the net? Are they kernel-version
> sensitive?
> Thanx
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