Linux-Misc Digest #565, Volume #18 Mon, 11 Jan 99 03:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Best Free Unix? (Charlie Sorsby)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Sean Maguire)
SCSI CDROM on an IBM Thinkpad .. I can't make it work (Brent Rader)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (brian moore)
kernel 2.0.36 installation (Frank Hale)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Chris Welch)
Games (David Tomayko)
signal 11, signal 8 Error? (Chetan Ahuja)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (brent verner)
Re: Problem with LILO (brent verner)
Re: How do i configure named properly? ( getting long ) (Mark Forsyth)
Re: Driver for Win to access Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Valeriy
Filipchuk)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Sorsby)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 17:45:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
= On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 17:59:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Lipsie)
= wrote:
=
= >On 1 Jan 1999 14:59:11 +0800, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= >
= >>Which companies offer the entire pre-installed OS? I want to get one
= >>without any Microsoft products at all, ready to go, and later install
= >>a different OS if I need to.
I seem to recall that there is a list of such companies on the
FreeBSD web site (www.freebsd.org). I'm surprised that no one has
mentioned it.
--
Best regards,
Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby Wheeling, WV "I'm the NRA!"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hgo.net/~crs USA Life Member since 1965
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Maguire)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:41:45 GMT
I've only managed to crash it once. Using ZGV and having a totally
wrong chipset selected in /etc/vga ;) I'm sure I "could" have
fixed it somehow, but the ol' three finger salute was easier ;)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Wendel wrote:
>
>Oh boys, if you were such DOS wizards, then you SHOULD know the old
>LONG commands, such as rmdir, mkdir, etc... amazing... they are the
>same as Linux....
>
>Considering DOS is the poor bastard stepchild of Unix to begin with.
>
>Is Linux perfect? Not by a long shot. But I have yet to make it
>crash. If this were a perfect world, I would not have to waste my
>bandwidth on dweebs like you trolls...
>
>If Linux sucks, you guys must be the backwash....
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From: Brent Rader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: SCSI CDROM on an IBM Thinkpad .. I can't make it work
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:20:45 -0600
Here is a quick list of what I have:
- IBM Thinkpad 750Ce with the docking station (dock I)
- SCSI controler = Futrue Domain TMC 885 Base address 0xca000 irq 11
- CD-ROM is IBM, ID=3 LUN=0
- RH5.2
Ok, so the problem is that I can't mount the drive. Here is what
happens when I try:
# mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom
scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries.
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 147, scsi0, channel 0, id
3, lun 0
Request Sense 00 00 00 10 00
scsi0 host 0 abort (pid 157) timed out - resetting
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Disc change detected.
isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 0b:00 iso_blknum 16 block 32
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
or too many mounted file systems
SCSI CD error: host 0 id 3 lun 0 return code = 18000002
oSense class 0, sense error 0, extended sense 0
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Sometimes it will work. Most of the time it doesn't and I get these
error messages.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
BR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 11 Jan 1999 07:21:01 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:07:07 -0500,
brent verner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i whole-heartedly disagree that linux/*NIX is harder to learn.
> i found it a *much* easier environment to learn to DO things in;
> especially programming. i used a computer for the first time
> about 13 months ago (having been a carpenter for the previous
> 5/6 years). i installed linux about four/five months ago, having
> no *NIX experience whatsoever, and i just got a job as a network
> admin/programmer at a newspaper. i repeat, this is not hard. it
> requires an interest to learn and a little, i repeat a little,
> ability (and a bit of time).
Indeed: that's the beauty of Unix (and therefore Linux): at its
core, it is very simple. That you can combine a bunch of simple
things to make something complex is its elegance.
At times I wonder if Ritchie and Thompson and the rest of the Bell
Labs gang knew what a thing of beauty they were creating. (Or if it
was just a good platform for Space War. :))
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.0.36 installation
Date: 11 Jan 1999 07:23:42 GMT
How come it is that when ever I compile my kernel right now 2.0.36 It
never loads the modules? I follow the directions just like they say but
it will never load the modules?
Jan 11 01:53:47 FranksPC kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Jan 11 01:53:47 FranksPC kernel: Loaded 3305 symbols from
/boot/System.map.
Jan 11 01:53:47 FranksPC kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.0.36.
Jan 11 01:53:47 FranksPC kernel: No module symbols loaded.
I am running a stock system. Just finished installing after my failed
attempts at 2.2.0pre6. *Boy that was a nightmare*
What does it take to get a kernel to compile and run on a RH 5.2 system?
Also does anyone know what the module-info file is for in the /boot
directory? Do I need to create one when I compile and install the new
kernel? If so how do you do it? I have never seen directions on this.
Also does the System.map sym link update itself? Or do I have to delete
it and make a new one to my newly created System.map file everytime I
compile the kernel?
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 7205161
Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/
Jade: http://jade.netpedia.net/
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From: Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:35:36 -0600
"Omni=B2" wrote:
> =
> Chris Welch wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> "Omni=B2" wrote:
> Debian is easy. I hear that RedHat is a bit more... odd. But I suppose
> a moron like you wouldn't understand anything anyway.
> =
> oh your so right
> you must be a genius to work that out
> please
> can I have your autograph Mr Welch
> your my hero
> =
Well, OK. I'll assume that the Linus can suck my cock post was an
oddity. Since you seem to actually want to learn Linux, I suggest
Running Linux. It's a very helpful book. My roomate has it and it helped
me out a lot. It'll probably run you $20-30, but it's worth it.
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/----------------------------------------------------------\
| http://www.chaotic42.cx |
| |
| Brain: It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. |
| Pinky: You have no idea. |
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From: David Tomayko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Games
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:09:40 -0500
What games are out there for Linux?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: signal 11, signal 8 Error?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 05:42:11 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to run a scientific application on a linux system with
a Celeron 300a processor machine with 256 MB RAM ( 2*128 Meg DIMMS)
I have two IDE hard disks and on IDE CDROM in this machine....
I am getting errors such as follows ( on each and every attempt to
run the program)
Received signal 11 Unknown error 4294967295
Received signal 8 Unknown error 4294967295
And I haven't ever seen this error running the same
program suite on other machines..
I have run this application ( Molpro) on other unix machine... some
SGI machines and another linux machine to be specific... I have
never seen this message before... also I have run this same application
on this present linux machine once before and I didn't get messages
like this...
So all that leads me to believe that it could be a hrdware problem
with my machine... I dimly remember something about sig 11 and memory
problems... could anybody throw some more light on it... specifically,
if a memory problem is suspected, what other tests I can run on
my hardware to confirm or deny the existence of a hardware problem.....
BTW, I am not seeing a similar problem in running any other program...
Please help...
Chetan
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From: brent verner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:07:07 -0500
"Omni�" wrote:
>
> Jeff Kay wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> >While in your eyes learning linux may be like learning chinese a) over a
> >billion people have done it ( not linux, chinese ) and b) at least at the
> >end you would have had the satitsfaction of having accomplished something
> >you consider difficult....
>
> its not really a challenge
> learning C or 80x86 assembler was a challenge
> I meant that it just didnt flow right , from the start
> hell I couldnt even have installed the thing
> if the CD I had didnt have an autoboot funtion on it
>
> yu gotta remember dude
> I'm talking like 10 minutes after instalation
> well 10 minutes after a MSDOS installation
> I was cruising
> I didnt have a headache like I do with linsux
sure, after ten minutes, you're cruising -- it ususally takes
about 45mins to realize you're going in circles.
i whole-heartedly disagree that linux/*NIX is harder to learn.
i found it a *much* easier environment to learn to DO things in;
especially programming. i used a computer for the first time
about 13 months ago (having been a carpenter for the previous
5/6 years). i installed linux about four/five months ago, having
no *NIX experience whatsoever, and i just got a job as a network
admin/programmer at a newspaper. i repeat, this is not hard. it
requires an interest to learn and a little, i repeat a little,
ability (and a bit of time).
brent
it's not about which is better/best; rather, about which is *good*.
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From: brent verner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with LILO
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:13:20 -0500
check and see if you have some CMOS virus detection turned on
in your BIOS setup. i'm not sure how LILO would react to this...
hth.
brent
Steve Shofner wrote:
>
> I'm new to Linux and the whole wonderful UNIX realm. I've borrowed a
> copy of Red Hat Linux to get my feet wet, but can't get it to install.
> It goes through the whole installation fine until it tries to load
> LILO. It begins, and then gives me a window with the message "An error
> occured during step "Install bootloader" of the install." I've been
> thinking it is a problem with my hd partitioning, and have tried
> everthing I can think of. I've also exhausted all the documentation I
> can find for advice. Things I've tried: making the first partition
> small (for the 1023 situation), using a DOS fdisk to erase the MBR
> (using "fdisk /mbr"), toggled the active status of the boot partition
> (although, I'm not to sure if I did this one right), and I've
> repartitioned the Linux drive many times with different variances. My
> system is an old 486/66 with a 1.2 GB drive and a 240 MB drive. I have
> DOS on the small drive. HELP PLEASE! Please, also, reply to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Forsyth)
Subject: Re: How do i configure named properly? ( getting long )
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:09:55 +1059
OK folks. Here's a configuration for a caching only DNS. The domain name is
bogus and the ip is 192.168.1.254. I assmue BIND 8 here also.
This is a very simple config and was derived from the howtos in quite short
order.
In /var/named you should find as a minimum named.ca named.local
and named.bogus.
Go to it...
Mark F...
The contents of /var/named/named.ca are :-
====================================================
On s file holds the information on root name servers needed to
; initialize cache of Internet domain name servers
; (e.g. reference this file in the "cache . <file>"
; configuration file of BIND domain name servers).
;
; This file is made available by InterNIC registration services
; under anonymous FTP as
; file /domain/named.root
; on server FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET
; -OR- under Gopher at RS.INTERNIC.NET
; under menu InterNIC Registration Services (NSI)
; submenu InterNIC Registration Archives
; file named.root
;
; last update: Aug 22, 1997
; related version of root zone: 1997082200
;
;
; formerly NS.INTERNIC.NET
;
3600000 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4
;
; formerly NS1.ISI.EDU
;
3600000 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107
;
; formerly C.PSI.NET
;
3600000 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12
;
; formerly TERP.UMD.EDU
;
3600000 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90
;
; formerly NS.NASA.GOV
;
3600000 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10
;
; formerly NS.ISC.ORG
;
3600000 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241
;
; formerly NS.NIC.DDN.MIL
;
3600000 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4
;
; formerly AOS.ARL.ARMY.MIL
;
3600000 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53
;
; formerly NIC.NORDU.NET
;
3600000 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17
;
; temporarily housed at NSI (InterNIC)
;
3600000 NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.10
;
; housed in LINX, operated by RIPE NCC
;
3600000 NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 193.0.14.129
;
; temporarily housed at ISI (IANA)
;
3600000 NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.32.64.12
;
; housed in Japan, operated by WIDE
;
3600000 NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 202.12.27.33
; End of File
====================================================================
named.bogus
====================================================================
@ IN SOA really.bogus.com. root.really.bogus.com. (
1998121900 ; Serial
28800 ; Refresh
14400 ; Retry
3600000 ; Expire
86400 ) ; Minimum
NS really.bogus.com.
MX 10 mail.bigpond.com.
MX 20 really.bogus.com.
localhost A 127.0.0.1
really A 192.168.1.254
www A 192.168.1.254
ftp A 192.168.1.254
news A 192.168.1.254
mail A 192.168.1.254
proxy A 192.168.1.254
================================================================
and named.local
================================================================
@ IN SOA localhost. root.localhost. (
1997022700 ; Serial
28800 ; Refresh
14400 ; Retry
3600000 ; Expire
86400 ) ; Minimum
IN NS localhost.
1 IN PTR localhost.
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Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:11:51 +0000, mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roger@localhost.? scribed to us that -
>>On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 23:13:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>(Juergen Heinzl) wrote:
>>
>>> I shall send you a configuration for that kind of server per Email.
>>
>>That deprives lurkers like me from benefitting.
>
>I was going to send a copy to you, but your antispam measures prevent
>it. ITT Juergen was quite right to mail the files rather than post them
>to the group, the contents being of reasonable length when unzipped, and
>the gzipped file being, technically, a binary. 8-)
>
>--
>Mist.
>http://www.misthaven.demon.co.uk/prof/
>Short FAQ on Demon and HTML.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Driver for Win to access Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:32:36 GMT
> I am looking for a driver either for Win 95 or for Win NT 4 that
> gives me access to Linux ext2fs filesystems.
driver to mount Ext2 filesystem readonly in NT 4 and 5 is available at
http://www.cyco.nl/~andreys/ext2fsnt
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From: Valeriy Filipchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:40:12 -0600
Omni=B2 wrote:
> =
> Jeff Kay wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Since the original intent of this was only ment to inflame linux users o=
r
> >advocates and in no way put forth any constructive critisism I'll ignore=
> >most of what was said....
> >
> =
> >How did you learn how to copy a file in dos .... I'm mean you did have t=
o
> =
> I didnt say copy a file , dickwad
> (read it next time)
> I said create a file , from nothing
> =
> >So you get windows for free..... the difference is I can never be charge=
d
> >for using linux without paying.... maybe someone will cc your message of=
f
> >to MS and they come hunting you down...sure they have better things to d=
o
> >but they sure would like making a point too and hey they got the spare c=
ash
> >to do it...
> =
> yeah right buddy
> =
> >While in your eyes learning linux may be like learning chinese a) over a=
> >billion people have done it ( not linux, chinese ) and b) at least at th=
e
> >end you would have had the satitsfaction of having accomplished somethin=
g
> >you consider difficult....
> =
> its not really a challenge
> learning C or 80x86 assembler was a challenge
> I meant that it just didnt flow right , from the start
> hell I couldnt even have installed the thing
> if the CD I had didnt have an autoboot funtion on it
> =
> yu gotta remember dude
> I'm talking like 10 minutes after instalation
> well 10 minutes after a MSDOS installation
> I was cruising
> I didnt have a headache like I do with linsux
> =
> That you would ever attempt to use linux
> >without learning it is laughable.... I wonder how succesful a tirp to ch=
ina
> >would be if you didn't know even so rudimentary chinese or something of =
the
> >place you were about to visit..... You cant blame your ignorance on Linu=
x
> >or the thousands of people who have developed it, though you may try.
> >
> >As for the original poster, why... why bother with such a comment.... DO=
N't
> >ANSWER BACK .. its rehtorical.... That you make comments such as "MS wil=
l
> >own linux" or "that bill owns us" or "that your vcr has a better gui and=
> =
> and I agree at least my vcr looks better than x , and might I add easier =
to
> program
> =
> >that you could program a better OS" Really? Haven't done it have you? It=
s
> >great you can shout your mouth off but where's the proof.... If you're s=
o
> >great then you could have joined the OSS community and help to make linu=
x
> >more user friendly for the layperson...alas I doubt you've even used it,=
> >based on your comments..... sure you may have listened to a few newsgrou=
ps
> >even read an article about it, but that is the extent of your knowledge =
and
> >experience I'm sure..... A second comment would be if vcr's are so user=
> >friendly how come most people's still flash 12:00?
> I cant even get to the CD drive
> I type \dev\hdb andf I get permission denied
> and I'
> m supposed to be root
> WTF???
>
You forgot to use ":"
AFAIK, in dos you do like this
D:
So, I think you should try =
\dev\hdb:
-- =
Valeriy Filipchuk
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