Linux-Misc Digest #565, Volume #21 Sat, 28 Aug 99 00:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux (Mircea)
Re: POP3 server. ("--==[bolMyn]==--")
Running Windows NT Apps under Linux ("Lee, Joey")
Re: [dos format] in vi ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best language for graphical apps? ("Max Reason")
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: RH 6 and PCMCIA Ethernet: How to get it going after the installation? (Bob
Martin)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Christopher B. Browne)
Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Hardware Compatibility Questions ("Jorge Padron")
Re: NTFS not supported in kernel? (Tim Moore)
Re: NTFS not supported in kernel? (Funny Guy)
Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... (Tim Moore)
Re: dosemu + IBM proprietary things... (Reinhard Karcher)
Re: Linux SMP question (Tim Moore)
Re: How to uninstall package compiled by source code? (Bob Martin)
Re: Shutdown Problem (Greg White)
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:45:50 -0400
"Lee, Joey" wrote:
>
> Greeting
>
> Do you know any software will allow Windows NT apps run under RedHat Linux
> 6.0? Any instruction is highly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> JL
http://www.vmware.com
MST
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From: "--==[bolMyn]==--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:56:53 GMT
Two things:
1. Make sure that "pop-3" and "imap" services are uncommented in your
inetd.conf file
2. Make sure that your "imap" server is installed. Do it by running rpm
-q imap. You should get something like imap-4.5.3 which is the
version that comes with RedHat 6.0. This is your actual POP server
If they were not running and you just enabled them, you have to restart
inetd service. Next, open your Netscape mail client and change your
POP and SMTP servers to your own. When you try to retrieve a message, you
should be prompted with a password. This means your POP server is
running. Then, try to send something. If everything goes fine and you
don't get any error that means that your SMTP server is running also and is
configured O.K.
Another way to find out if your POP server is running is by telnetting to
it by typing:
telnet [yourhost] 110
You should see something like:
+OK POP3 [yourhost] v7.59 server ready
This means your server is running
If you do telnet [yourhost] 25, this will check if your SMTP server is up
and running as well.
Have fun!
"Luca Satolli (KaBooM)" wrote:
> Aaron Lyon wrote:
>
> > Yes it is called sendmail. It is a pop/smtp server.
> >
> > Luca Satolli (KaBooM) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Is a pop3 server in Red Hat 5.2/6.0?
> > > Thanks a lot & best Regards
> > > Luca Satolli
> > >
>
> ohh, so sendmail can also handle pop3 acount, I didn't know it.
> .. but just another thing ... I've try to add a pop3 account from
> linuxconf and then to get the email ... it seems not to work! ... Have I
> to make something to enable it?
> Thanks a lots
> Luca (KaBooM)
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From: "Lee, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:30:39 -0400
Greeting
Do you know any software will allow Windows NT apps run under RedHat Linux
6.0? Any instruction is highly appreciated.
Regards
JL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [dos format] in vi
Date: 27 Aug 1999 13:20:32 GMT
Lee Kang Won wrote:
>
> when I copy and edit(vi) files from cdrom,
> I see a message [dos format] at the bottom of the line and
> even though it is a shell script file, it refuses to run.
> How can I change file property(which property?) and make it
> executable without doing some trivial jobs?
> Of course I tried changing file mode.
>
> Thanx in advance.
I suspect that your problem is CRLF (carriage return line feed)
ended lines. Linux wants LF (newline) ended lines. There are
a number of ways to translate the file. It is easiest when
you are copying the file from the CDROM.
tr -d '\015' <cdromfile >diskfile
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From: "Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:32:10 -0000
Christopher Browne wrote in message ...
>On 26 Aug 1999 11:54:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>[snip]
>>> 1. XBasic is fully compiler-based and you can make executables.
>>> 2. XBasic is available for both Windows and Linux (compatible).
>>> 3. XBasic is freeware and you can download via the internet.
>>> 4. XBasic function protocol is compatible with C / Linux / Win32.
>>>
>>> See http://www.maxreason.com/software/xbasic/xbasic.html for
>>> more information and downloading if XBasic seems appropriate
>>> for your purposes.
>>[snip]
>>
>> XBasic also is not Free Software
>> (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html). you can't modify and
>> redistribute it, and I'm not sure source is even available.
>
> I seem to recall there being a discussion about this package a while
> back; if this is the same BASIC compiler, the author was somewhat
> favorably inclined to turn it into free software, albeit with some
> concerns that would have to get talked through.
>
> The bigger concern, from my perspective, is that it is not Portable
> Software.
>
> It can only run on IA-32, as it directly generates IA-32 assembly
> language, and would essentially need to be rewritten for any other
> architectures that might come along. That would include IA-64, Alpha,
> and PPC, to name three architectures that are presently "sleepers,"
> with not incredibly high adoption rates, but the potential for
> widespread use.
You are correct that both currently available XBasic implementations
only generate 80486/Pentium code. Just for information purposes,
however, you should know that the first implementation of XBasic
(in 1988) was for the Motorola 88100 RISC CPU running UNIX.
The currently available freeware implementations for Linux and
Windows were ported from the original 88100 implemenations.
Thus XBasic is portable between CPUs in principle and in fact.
The existing Linux and Windows implementations of XBasic
provide evidence XBasic programs are source-code portable
between different operating systems.
I am not sure why you say XBasic "is not portable". Perhaps
I misunderstand your intended meaning, but you seem to say
XBasic design/architecture make XBasic impossible to port.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: 28 Aug 1999 02:27:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Collin W. Hitchcock wrote:
>
>> There is a danger that Microsoft will attempt to `absorb' Linux by
>> distributing its own version which contains Microsoft only
>> extensions. But they would have to be careful about how they did
>> that because of the GNU Pulic License. Linux enthusiasts should
>> avoid being seduced by anything Microsoft offers along these lines.
>
>What would these Microsoft extensions look like? Would they be
>GUI-like additions to make Linux look more like Windows or would they
>be attempts to change the foundation (proprietary kernel modules,
>"enhanced" versions of basic system utilities etc.)?
>
>We should embrace any GUI-like extensions which do not tamper with the
>foundation. These will attract the Windows crowd to Linux. We should
>resist attempts to hijack the OS foundation.
We already have two examples of Microsoft's strategy against its open source
competition. The Front Page Extensions to the defacto standard protocols
between Web authoring tools, Web servers, and Web browsers.
Take a good long look at the patch Microsoft publishes for Apache.
It's a trojan horse. If you install it your security is compromised.
Does anyone believe this compromise is an *accident*?
Is there anyone who runs an Apache Web server with more than twenty users
who has not had user requests to install the Front Page Extensions?
Microsoft gives away a very comprehensive and user friendly tool
to create demand for the extensions. That's the social engineering
side of a trojan horse attack, that's been underway for a couple
of years now.
Microsoft Outlook Express and Exchange Server, likewise, are a social
engineering attack against generic SMTP email. The deal is this,
Microsoft will give you a free shared calendar system and lots of other
goodies for distance collaboration, as a bribe to your company to
get off SMTP and go to their proprietary email system. I know of
three otherwise network-savvy Silicon Valley startups that have
taken this devil's offer.
Don't speculate about possible Microsoft Linux distros, Microsoft
is much smarter than that. The attack is already well underway
and you didn't even see it.
In the case of Outlook/Exchange, the open-source community would do
well to defend against it by developing a freeware Web-enabled
shared calendar. The functionality of the old Openlook Calendar tool
would suffice, except the client side has to use forms or run
on Java in the web browser.
Cameron
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 6 and PCMCIA Ethernet: How to get it going after the installation?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:47:51 +0000
I have it running under RH 5.2, in /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia PCMCIA=yes, and
PCIC needs to be defined as to what type of pcmcia controller you have.
For the network adapter configure it in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts, you
may also want to setup /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
Also read the pcmcia HOWTO from the author of the PCMCIA package, Davids
Hinds, It's one the better howto's I looked at. Lot's of good stuff for
trouble shooting
Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
> I recently installed RH6 on a laptop. When I did the installation, I did
> not have a supported PCMCIA Ethernet card available, but I did select PCMCIA
> as a thing to be installed and, as far as I can tell, it did install it.
> The various pieces seem to be there, including the /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia
> script, /sbin/cardmgr, the pcmcia configuration files, etc. But, it
> doesn't seem to be running. I have tried putting a supported card in
> and rebooting, but it just doesn't seem to find it.
>
> If I run "/etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start" by hand, it returns immediately.
> There is a script file somewhere (/etc/pcmcia.conf or something similar)
> that contains the lines:
>
> PCMCIA=No
> something=
> something=
> something=
>
> So, clearly, the RH scheme of things, it is not active. How do I make it
> active? For what it is worth, I have looked at both control-panel and
> linuxconf - they don't seem to have anything related to it. In general, I
> don't like GUI config tools - have never needed one before and don't plan on
> starting now...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:35:21 GMT
On 27 Aug 1999 14:52:34 +0100, Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>>>>>> "Yury" == Yury Donskoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yury> I think we should all remember that Mr. Kulisz's email address
> Yury> is from Carleton University in Ottawa, and together with some
> Yury> of his others posts, this identifies him as an ivory tower
> Yury> intellectual
>
> Judging people by their email addresses is usually a foolish
>thing to do. My email might suggest that I live in Cambridge, whereas
>I dont, or that I work for the MRC, wheras I dont.
It is, however, quite clear, from other contextual information, that
Kulisz is indeed a student at Carleton University.
I made some somewhat unkind remarks at one point that would only be
likely to be understood by someone who was a student there, or otherwise
rather strongly tied to the environment as an educational environment.
(Two words to characterize it: Macleans Survey... If that doesn't make
sense, you haven't been in the Canadian educational environment. If
that didn't offend you, you're probably not from Carleton...)
> Yury> and is therefore to be ignored on general principles.
>
> Its true that some people who work in or for universities
>live in an ivory tower. This is also true of many people who work in
>industry as well.
>
> If you think that "Mr Kulisz" is a dickhead for what he says,
>or how he says it this is a different issue, and you should fool free
>to say so, but if you comment on what you have decided he may be you
>make yourself look more foolish.
Indeed.
I wouldn't tend to think that he's speaking for the general attitudes
at Carleton; there's quite a mixed bag when you consider that it's a
reasonably large institution with a variety of faculties with a diverse
faculty with skills in *many* disciplines. In some cases perhaps with
some *lack* of skill; the same is also true in corporate environments.
> Yury> He also has a problem to child poverty. So do I. However, if
> Yury> you pay attention to the much-spouted statistics, you realize
> Yury> that the most of those children come from single-parent(read,
> Yury> female) families. The solution is not to give them more
> Yury> money: that only breeds more child poverty, quite often
> Yury> literally.
>
> I would be interested in how a single parent family can
>breed anything. This Malthusian notion of population control is really
>rather silly in most of the free market countries. The population in
>my country for instance is not going up at a massive rate, although
>the rate of child poverty is going up. The reasons are complex but the
>lack of decent housing, the lack of education, health care, the
>absence of jobs are major factors. However in this wonderous "free
>market" society we seem to have decided that these issues should be
>decided by the magic wand of economics, whereas they should be decided
>by society.
Unfortunately, "society" is not a body that is clearly well constituted
for complex decisionmaking.
What effectively happens, in either case, is that some of the "important"
people, with considerable political clout, tend to decide either to do
something, or perhaps nothing, and allow people to act on the issues
individually as they see fit.
If the net result is that nothing is done about situations that you consider
to be problems, then it is not unreasonable to consider it possible that
perhaps the whole of society does not care enough to do anything about it.
> Now its possible that I work in an Ivory tower and know
>nothing of what I am talking. This might be true, because I do. But I
>live in an inner city, and have spent much time with people who live
>in other inner cities around the country and the same issues come up
>again and again. Society needs to address the issues so that we can
>stop wasting the talents and lifes of the people born to these areas.
Society needs to *care* about it before anything will be "addressed."
People do things about those things that they really care about.
This is nicely represented by the biblical quote:
"Faith without works is dead."
If you *claim* to believe something, but then fail to do anything about
that belief, why should we believe your claim?
Mapping that principle onto the teeming millions of people, if little
or nothing is being done about problems in your inner city regions,
that represents reasonable evidence that people truly don't care about
those problems.
--
Rules of the Evil Overlord #23. "When I employ people as advisors, I
will occasionally listen to their advice."
<http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: "Jorge Padron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Hardware Compatibility Questions
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:51:36 -0400
*** NEWBIE: No experience with Linux whatsoever ***
I'm planning to purchase Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 to install it on my home
computer. I currently run Windows 98SE (quite ~unstable~ I most say) and I
have an old hard drive that I made available to give Linux a try -- I am
planiing to dual boot Windows 98SE and Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 >>>>> IS THIS
POSSIBLE? <<<<<<<<
The problem I have is that I'm not sure if my hardware is going to be
compatible with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 -- here's the list of stuff I have in
my system. Would anybody please let me know whether this is going to work at
all?
+ ABUT BH6 motherboard with Intel Celeron 300Mhz
+ 128MB 100Mhz RAM
+ Two Maxtor IDE hard drives: Windows 98SE will stay on the first hard drive
and I'll install OpenLinux 2.2 on the second drive.
+ Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM
+ Matrox Millenium G200 AGP 8MB video card
+ No network card
+ 3COM USR Courier V.Everything internal modem (I'm using the default
settings: are the default settings Plug and Play? Will this work or do I
need to manually set the IRQ, COM port, etc.?)
+ Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value sound card (I'm using the default
settings: are the default settings Plug and Play? Will this work or do I
need to manually set the IRQ, etc.?)
My main problem is that all my devices (video, sound, modem) are using the
default settings the way they come out-of-the-box, which I believe are in
"plug-and-play" mode. Can I just go ahead and install Caldera OpenLinux 2.2
like that without doing anyhting and expect everything to work fine,
including my modem and sound? Or should instead open my computer case and
and manually set all IRQ, COM ports, etc? I would very much prefer -not- to
have to touch anything inside my computer if at all possible.
Thank you in advance for your input,
J. Padron
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:02:08 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NTFS not supported in kernel?
cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig. See the File Systems section, heed
the warnings.
> I thought that RedHat 6.0 supported this out of the box. If am wrong, how
> does one add NTFS support to RH 6.0?
--
timothymoore "Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
bigfoot WS Burroughs.
com
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From: Funny Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NTFS not supported in kernel?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:55:33 +0800
By default, the kernel didn't support NTFS. You must rebuild the kernel to
enable the modules that it can support a read-only NTFS environment.
"Matthew O. Persico" wrote:
> I thought that RedHat 6.0 supported this out of the box. If am wrong, how
> does one add NTFS support to RH 6.0?
> --
> Matthew O. Persico
>
> You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold dead oversized
> control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:57:31 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron...
Check your sspec number here http://developer.intel.com/design/celeron/
for details. You appear to have a pair of 400MHz celerons that may have
the doubled L1 cache but no L2 as noted. Without special pin rewiring
(e.g.- drilling and soldering), Slot-1 Celerons do not do SMP by
design. Try timing some repeatable task that drives the cpu high with
both, then physically remove one and rerun.
Also xosview will show two CPU and IRQ stacks in SMP. It may give you a
quick visual if SMP is working or not. Launch more than one task since
most code is not multi-threaded.
You might also check to make sure you got what you think you bought.
--
timothymoore "Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
bigfoot WS Burroughs.
com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: 26 Aug 99 20:56:52 GMT
Subject: Re: dosemu + IBM proprietary things...
William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try an emulator newsgroup, there is probably one related to dosemu.
There is a mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reinhard
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:07:20 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux SMP question
Celeron's don't do SMP without modification.
> the machine shows any signs of being over loaded. If you are going to
> be running a SMP machine I would recommend going with a dual
> celeron. The performance is great and the cost is about half.
--
timothymoore "Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
bigfoot WS Burroughs.
com
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to uninstall package compiled by source code?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:00:38 +0000
"Y.C." wrote:
>
> Hi:
> I have a question, what's the best way to unistall package compiled
> by source code?
>
> Recently, I have installed ssh-2.0.13 by compiling source code on my
> slackware box because I couldn't find tkg package. However, later I
> found out ssh2 is not compatible with ssh1, so I have to downgrade to
> ssh-1.2.27. but now I have trouble unistalling ssh-2.2.13 'cause I have
> no idea where all the components went to...
>
> I was wondering if you are a big fan of source code out there. how do
> you manage to uninstall later?
>
> Thanks!
> Y.C
Depends on the author of the package. some provide a removal mechanism
in their make file like make uninstall, but if you have removed the
source directory that won't do much good. Best is to look at hteir
makfile to see where it is installed to. Usual targets are /usr/bin,
/usr/local/, man pages and maybe an info file. you basically want
reverse the make install process. generally getting rid of the binary is
sufficient, for different version of the same program you may need to
get rid of some libs if it installed any.
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Subject: Re: Shutdown Problem
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x
From: Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:42:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:33 -0400, Alan Swartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot=
e:
>>stan168 wrote:
>
>>> I was thinking if the user just want to turn off the power without
>>> doing a shutdown properly. Is there any way to prevent the checking (=
fsck)
>>> at booting time and data corruption?
>>
I'm no expert on the subject, but couldn't you use the -sync option, so t=
hat
all filesystem writes are done with no write-behind?
Just tossing out ideas here.
GW
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