Linux-Misc Digest #596, Volume #18               Wed, 13 Jan 99 08:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews  !  !   !' (WARHORS302)
  Re: Newbie Needs Linux Help [was: nasty comment about Linus] (Bill Anderson)
  video creation application on Linux? (David Beymer)
  Re: Which version (David Martin)
  Re: My PATH statment is screwed up (Michael Kelly)
  How do you get diald to stay up even when there's no traffic (Phill Edwards)
  filesystem cacheing (David Rivenburg)
  Re: Linux fails to boot after dual-booting Windows 95;Reinstall LILO and it works 
again!? (Eric Hardwick)
  Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux (Dave Brown)
  Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA ("Glenn Davy")
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. ("Glenn Davy")
  Re: does the Diamond SupraExpress 56i Modem do linux? (Rob Clark)
  Re: Asuscom ISDNLink I-IN100-ST-DV (Andreas Hinz)
  Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: * and dot files (Dave Brown)
  Re: XGalaga works as root, but not a user. (Matthew Faupel)
  Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case (David Steuber)
  Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux (Frank Sweetser)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (David Steuber)
  Re: Apache 1.3.3 - multiple cgi-bin/ dir's without ScriptAlias? (Brian McCauley)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Powe)
  Re: kde and ppp problems (Peter Polman)
  An idea for an OpenSource project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (C Lamb)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WARHORS302)
Crossposted-To: 
rec.music.hip-hop,rec.models.rc.air,rec.woodworking,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,rec.sport.soccer,rec.travel.europe,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.software.year-2000,alt.prophecies.nostradamus,alt.prophecies.cayce,alt.astrology,sci.astrology.hindu,sci.astrology.misc
Subject: Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews  !  !   !'
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:25:49 GMT

>From: FitugMix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, Jan 12, 1999 17:21 EST
>Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>

>Here's absolutely irrefutable, scientifically-verifiable evidence that
>plainly demonstrates Jesus the Nazarene called the Christ to be the

<SNIP>
 TAKE YOUR RELIGIOUS GARBAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU MORON.

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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie Needs Linux Help [was: nasty comment about Linus]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:06:32 -0700

Fred Flatstone wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Chris Wolfe 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> > : If you really like dir, use the 'ln' command in Linux ('man ln' for more
> > : info) to create a symbolic link from /bin/dir, or /bin/list, to the ls
> > : program.
> >
> > Wouldn't alias be slightly less.... messy?
> 
> Uh.... No?  Typing "ln -s /bin/ls /usr/bin/dir" and having "dir"
> always work (as long as PATH is reasonable) for all users is a
> lot less messy than editing a ~/.bashrc file or somthing for
> your user account and root account and anyone else involved.

So just put into /etc/bashrc.
One file, and you don't need to open it up.

echo "alias dir='ls -la'" >> /etc/bashrc

...as root of course.
Note that this will also give you the look of dir (as much as possible
given that it shows *more* than dir under dos).

Bill

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From: David Beymer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video creation application on Linux?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:12:48 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

Would anyone happen to know of any tools in Linux for creating and
editing video files in any of the popular formats?  I've been looking for
tools to create either AVI or quicktime format movies, but with no
luck.  One tool that I've been using on a Windows NT box is
Apple's MoviePlayer program for the quicktime format -- but I would
like to stick with Linux.  Can anyone please help?

Thanks,
David Beymer
SRI International



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Martin)
Subject: Re: Which version
Date: 13 Jan 1999 11:31:10 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Vasilis Serghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all, I'm getting very anti Win 95 at the moment, and have been
> considering getting a Lynux OS. This whole thing is very new to me. I
> understand that there are different variants of the Unix OS, such as
> S.U.S.E and Red Hat etc. I bought a mag which had the SUSE OS on the
> cover disk, although I read that the Red Hat version is easier to
> install.

October 1998 PC Plus?

Both versions can be installed relatively easily. I would buy either the 
new SuSE version or the RedHat 5.2. (They both contain the same operating 
system internals, but are set up slightly differently when you get down
to the details).

SuSE comes with a whole load of stuff that you may or may not need/want.
I don't know what the new RedHat distribution comes with.

Both have fairly easy to use set up programs and a manual which you should
read first. 

Both are about the same price in UK.

As far as a novice is concerned, I would set up the machine with a new 
hard disk (unless you really want to get into repartitioning and have lots 
of free space.) of at least 2Gb (OK, it doesn't take anywhere near that to 
install the OS but you never know what else you might want.) 

Try to select KDE and KDM as your desktop and session manager. There are 
lots of options that should be explained in the manual.

If you have experience of using a command line (ie other than just point and 
click windows/mac) then you shouldn't find it too hard to make your way
around the system. It is a different 'language' to get things to go from
the command line, but it isn't hard to learn and is very powerful. 

> 
> What are the differences between these variants and which is better
> suited for a complete novice.

For a complete novice, find a friendly Unix/Linux knowledgable person (Guru)
to cadge advice from. Don't forget to return the favour in beer/whatever 
helps to grease the wheels.

Apart from that, read the manual. 

> 
> Any help is appreciated.

Good luck. It is quite a steep learning curve.

You may find it helps to keep notes of everything you do as it is very hard 
to rememeber lots of new things at once.


..d 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: My PATH statment is screwed up
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:30:56 -0500

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:19:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Any other suggestions about how to find out where my PATH statement is
>screwing up?

Assuming you're using an sh compatible shell like bash you could sprinkle
echo $PATH

statements in your startup scripts and use an editor or script to comment
them out later or set some environment variable the startup script can test
before doing the echo.. DEBUG for example.


Mike

"Genius gives birth, talent delivers."

                - Jack Kerouac

(remove NOSPAM from address, if present, to reply)

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From: Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you get diald to stay up even when there's no traffic
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:34:25 +1100

Oh yes indeedy. I've managed to get diald working on my Debian box so
that it connects up
to my OzEmail account when it detects any IP traffic which needs to go
out to the Internet. And I'm pretty pleased about that I can tell you
because it was a bit of a struggle for the loikes of me :)

However, I do have a couple of small remaining problemettes which I'm
hoping someone has already sorted out.

1) How do you make the link stay up for a decent amount of time (say 15
mins) even though there's no traffic. I've had to resort to writing a
shell script which pings every 30 secs. Now there must be something more

elegant than that! I tried "impulse 900,45" but it had no effect. I keep

getting disconnected after approx 30 secs idle time.

2) Is it possible to continue to use manual ppp connections. Whenever
I try to do this now, the logs give the impression that I've connected
OK, and local and remote IPs are allocated, but I can't ping anything.
It's as if the connection didn't succeed at all.

TIA,
-- Phill --


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From: David Rivenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: filesystem cacheing
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:48:12 -0600

Does anyone know if it is possible to temporarily disable
filesystem cacheing?  I am writing a disk utility that
attmpts to isolate intermittently bad sectors on an ide
hard drive and if the first read is successful, all subsequent
reads will also be successful when cacheing is used.

Alternatively, is there a way in a user-space program running
as root to read a sector directly from a hard drive without
invalidating anything the kernel knows about the drive?  

Thanks,

Dave Rivenburg

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Hardwick)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux fails to boot after dual-booting Windows 95;Reinstall LILO and it 
works again!?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:41:58 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja) wrote:

>Eric Hardwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) wrote:
>
>: >Is your Win95 partition FAT or FAT32?  There is a known bug in Linux (as
>: >of 2.0.36) which *may* cause the kernel to crash if you mount a defective
>: >filesystem.  To the FAT12/16 code, a FAT32 filesystem *is* defective.
>: >Next time you get a successful Linux boot, edit the fstab file so that the
>: >Win95 filesystem does not auto-mount.  You may find that this cures the
>: >problem.
>: >
>
>: Yes it is FAT32. I just tried your suggestion. It seemed to work the
>: first time I booted win95 and then Linux. Linux booted correctly all
>: the way through. So I tried it again...Booted windows then Linux. No
>: go. Same problem. One thing was different the first time, might mean
>: nothing. I used 'rmmod' to unload the vfat module, then rebooted into
>: windows, then Linux. This worked. Another round of reboots and Linux
>: *doesn't* boot. I don't really think this is the cause but can someone
>: tell me how to prevent the vfat module from loading during boot up? Is
>: it a config file I need to edit?
>
>   Yes.. the file you need to edit is /etc/fstab  
>      just remove the line that is mounting the win95 partition... or 
>you can make the fourth field ( the one after vfat)  read 'noauto'
>(without the quotes) That means not to mount the file system automatically...
>  Chetan
>
>
Sorry, I wasn't clear, I mean how do I remove the vfat loadable module
from the bootup process, it's the line that says 

Loading vfat lp lp0 ... 

and so on.

I already removed the /etc/fstab lines that mounted my win95
partitions. I had set that up to be noauto anyway so that wasn't the
problem. 

I assume the vfat module is 'vfat.o'? Maybe I should do a grep on my
/etc dir for that string...

I chose support for vfat during the installation of Debian 2.0. Maybe
it recompiled the kernel during the installation? (does that happen?)

Oh well, thanks for the advice none the less.

Eric Hardwick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jan 99 00:53:28 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>I kinda like wget.  Works great, especially when you're downloading from a
>web server.  It could use a GUI front end, which I might decide I want bad
>enough to write one with Tk/Tcl.  *IF* I get desperate enough, that is...

You might look for "FileRunner".  It's a Tk/Tcl based program that reminds me
of ws_ftp; you get a panel showing the source directory and a panel showing the
receiving directory.  I supports "resume" in case you lose a connection during
the download.  

-- 
Dave Brown   Austin, TX


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From: "Glenn Davy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:48:46 +1100

So how far have you got? I'm a bit of the same mind as you but I've got
through a few samba networks.

Forgive me if my references to howtos aren't quite correct as I'm drudging
from memory here:
1) Get NIC going - checkout ethernet how to and NET3
2) Make sure IP's going, can you ping your self?
3) Make sure hosts and  networks file ok.
4) Setup routing table - Of all the crap I've read on routing the linux
howto is by far the one that made the most sense. It even enabled me to get
the novel routing going which the novel manuals couldn't help me get!
5) Make sure other machine(s) is connected etc and runing TCP/IP and you can
ping each other
6) Get samba package. I've only played with 1.18something. I believe 2 is
out now.
7) Compile and install. With NT there are issues relating to encrypted
passwords. Make sure you read the various files that are included with samba
8) Edit /etc/smb.conf and do lots of reading. This file sets up your shares
among many other things
9) run smbd -D and nmbd -D
10) See if NT can see shared resources
I hope I haven't forgotton any stages. You may have to play with the
smbpasswd file/command.
11) Buy a Mac and install Netatalk, just for kicks ;^)

Hope this helps
Glenn



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From: "Glenn Davy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:34:32 +1100

>>BUT HAS MICROSOFT EVER BEEN CONVINCTED OF ILLEGAL ACTIONS ?


Illegality is irrelavent to the notion of 'nasty'  -the law primarily exists
to protect the haves (which certainly includes Bill), not to protect the
'non-nasties.'

Perhaps your Q should be more along the lines of how much further would
computing, how much more technologically empowered would the little people
be if the legal but ever cunning microsoft had have refrained from the kind
of actions mentioned in the whole anti-trust thingy, or indeed  If they had
never have existed?

Glenn



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: does the Diamond SupraExpress 56i Modem do linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:17:09 GMT

In article <qbVm2.168$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenny Sylliboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From what I read from the group, you can't use a winmodem in linux or dos,
>well how do you explain I'm able to use my modem in dos but not in linux?
>And I think it the same kind mentioned below.  P.S. it does not have a
>winmodem icon like USR winmodems, and it does not have jumper settings to
>manually select com or irq.  But it requires a disk to load software.  So
>any ideas on what kind of modem we have, mines is model supra2260.

I believe your "supra2260" is a SupraMax 56K PCI, which is a winmodem.

http://www.diamondmm.com/products/current/supramax-pci2.cfm

Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Asuscom ISDNLink I-IN100-ST-DV
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:16:53 GMT

On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:47:49 -0000, Tom Furie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>According to the documentation, the card only works if the driver is
>installed as a module, but 'make *config' doesn't allow the option of
>loading 'hisax support for Asuscom' as a module.
>

This is what i have selected:

 <M> ISDN support
    [*] Support audio via ISDN
    <M> HiSax SiemensChipSet driver support
    [*] HiSax Support for EURO/DSS1
    [*] HiSax Support for ASUSCOM cards
                  

Using 2.0.35 patched to 2.0.36, isdn4linux-3.0beta1.

    

Check news://de.alt.compm.isdn4linux and 
http://www.isdn4linux.de/download.php3 for more info.
-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards

Andreas Hinz

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:25:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 11 Jan 99 17:49:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Kaple) wrote:

>From: Keith Kaple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:49:45 -0500
>Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc.
>
>1) swipe the text. --does copy
>2) press the middle mouse button. --pastes buffer

That's fine - I just want my Ctrl-X, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V buttons back. Can't I assign
hotkeys ?

Regards, Eggert

=====================================================
Answers please in this newsgroup!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: * and dot files
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jan 99 00:59:14 GMT

In article <kqPm2.79$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Important!! Make sure that you do NOT include "-r" in the above command.
>The wildcard ".*" will match "." and ".." and will delete the parent
>directory and it's contents.

Have you tried this?  You can't remove a directory that's "busy", i.e.,
if it's your current directory, it's "busy".

-- 
Dave Brown   Austin, TX


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From: Matthew Faupel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XGalaga works as root, but not a user.
Date: 13 Jan 1999 12:08:15 +0000

Joseph Kelch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone seen this behavior?  XGalaga runs fine as a root user, but when
> I log in to a user account, it starts okay but closes as soon as a
> bullet hits an alien thingy.  RH5.1, S3V video on XFree 3.3.2.

Yep. The devices related to audio don't have the right permissions. I'm 
afraid I can't remember precisely which ones, and I don't have my Linux
box to hand to check, but the names are fairly obvious if you look.  If you
give general read/write permission to those devices, it should then work.

Cheers,


MAtthew

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Statement of Bill Neukom As Government Rests Its Case
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:06:33 -0500

Netnerd, I gotta ask you one question.  Why would a Microsoft
spokesperson use such a silly pseudonim?  You represent your company
poorly.  Or is this like a football game for you?  You aren't really a 
Microsoft employee, it is just your favorite teem?
-- 
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail

"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends.  These people, they're, they're  terrorists."

-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill

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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux
Date: 12 Jan 1999 19:55:54 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >I kinda like wget.  Works great, especially when you're downloading from a
> >web server.  It could use a GUI front end, which I might decide I want bad
> >enough to write one with Tk/Tcl.  *IF* I get desperate enough, that is...

> 
> You might look for "FileRunner".  It's a Tk/Tcl based program that
> reminds me of ws_ftp; you get a panel showing the source directory and a
> panel showing the receiving directory.  I supports "resume" in case you
> lose a connection during the download.

i also highly reccomend checking out gftp.  very nice program, got the 2
window stuff, and resume.  my fav bit though - it can spawn a per-downlaod
thread, allowing you to start dl'ing a file, and then go off and start
another file, even from another site.

-- 
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net  | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre5ac1 i586 | at public servers
They can always run stderr through uniq.  :-)
             -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 23:10:04 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (nic) writes:

-> Has any-one ever tried to buy a PC without windoze on it?
-> franzl

Sure.  Some assembly required <eg>

You have to pay the Microsoft tax.  Apparantly that's the law.

-- 
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail

"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends.  These people, they're, they're  terrorists."

-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill

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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.3 - multiple cgi-bin/ dir's without ScriptAlias?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:57:38 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) writes something not related to Linux:

> I am running Apache 1.3.3 on RedHat Linux 5.1 (Manhattan) with kernel
> 2.0.35.  I have successfully setup several user directories, and I
> want each to have its own /cgi-bin/.  Do I put a dir called "cgi-bin"
> in the UserDir (for me it's /home/user/html) and put a ScriptAlias in
> srm.conf.  My question is this: can I setup a "directory mask" such as
> /home/*/html/cgi-bin/ somewhere in the conf files for all user
> cgi-bin/ directories?  I plan on having MANY users on this system and
> I do not want to overload my srm file with that many ScriptAlias
> lines.  Any help is greatly appreciated!

To allow CGI scripts to be placed anywhere, not just in ScriptAlias
directories, you can put "ExecCGI" in your "Options".

Once you've done this then a user can make all files in a directory
behave as CGI scripts by putting the following in the in the .htaccess
file for the directory:

SetHandler cgi-script

Additionally you can put "AddHandler cgi-script cgi" in the srm.conf
so that any file with a .cgi suffix is treated as a CGI script and
there is then no need to sepatare the scripts into separate
directories.

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 13 Jan 1999 01:27:01 -0800

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>>>>> "Mike" == mjb007  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Mike> because thanks to MS, 90% of computer users are people who
    Mike> should never have been allowed to buy them in the first
    Mike> place.  Thanks to Bill Gates' Business Saavvy(SP?), he will
    Mike> always have a market with them by playing 'hey, we're normal
    Mike> people doing this' and feelgood commercials set to Rolling
    Mike> Stones music.

That reminds me of one of my cow-orkers, who told a client flat-out
"You shouldn't have bought a computer!" after the client complained "I
shouldn't have bought a computer from you guys" because the tech would
not do tutorial stuff with the client over the phone.  We were
crackin' up!

mp

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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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- --
                             Michael Powe
            [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.trollope.org
                         Portland, Oregon USA

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From: Peter Polman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kde and ppp problems
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:47:43 -0800



Francesc Guasch wrote:

> Since I installed kde I cannot connect through ppp.
> The connections starts and the modem hungs in a minute.
> When kde isn't loaded ppp connects fine.
> What's up ?
>
> --
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]       http://www.etsetb.upc.es/~frankie
>  ^-^.-----,
>  o o _     )             Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;
>   Y (_, (__(Ssss     He who would search for pearls must dive below.

Have you tried using the KDE native app "kppp" ? I had no problems
getting it to work first time.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: An idea for an OpenSource project
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:49:42 GMT

Hi all,  I'm thinking about putting together and OpenSource version of a
product I've written.  It is a database program that helps people store
research data.  I would like to rewrite the software as an OpenSource project
that would be portable to multiple operating systems, most notably Linux and
Windows '9x.  The present software runs under Windows.  I have thrown
together a few ideas and am interested in any comments programmers/hackers as
to what you think about the feasability of this project. I would be
distributed under GNU license so that everyone could use it without charge.

The URL for the existing software is: http://www.curiousoft.com

My notes for the OpenSource project are at:
http://www.curiousoft.com/OpenSource

Please direct comments on this to either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or reply to this
posting.

Travis Bauer
Curiousoft

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lamb)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 13 Jan 1999 12:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David Steuber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Juho Cederstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

: -> So is Linus really famous ? Maybe one of the most famous
: -> finns, but not *really* famous.

: He's the only Finn I've heard of.

I've also heard of the olympic record holder Paavo Nurmi (something
like 6 golds in 1 olympics) and the world famous architect Aalvar
Alto(sp?). Hanoi Rocks was a Finnish band. Miss World 1948? was Finnish
and it is the only country to successfully invade Russia and win.
Mikka Hakkinen (F1 Grand Prix) world champion, Tommi Makkinen, world
rally car champion (goodness knows which year) and just like the
Greeks and Romans are one of the few nations to have produced epic
poetry (Kalevala)(sp? again).

good to educate our Merkin cousins... ;)

C


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