Linux-Misc Digest #596, Volume #26 Wed, 20 Dec 00 13:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Playing X-Wing Alliance through Linux firewall (Sean)
text under icons in gnome (John Molitor)
Re: Redhat vs Debian (Systwo User)
Re: MODEM SPEED; chump kppp retarded it, no? ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: can't execute file on local drive (John Hunter)
Re: Q:Newbie Looking for alternatives from MacroShot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
slow printing (jaalaw1)
Re: Looking for a Fax Solution (Wolfgang Fritz)
Re: Redhat vs Debian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Great Opportunity in NYC!!!! ("David Gold")
Re: What is a journalized file system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redhat vs Debian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redhat vs Debian (Hal Burgiss)
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Playing X-Wing Alliance through Linux firewall
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:26:45 +0000
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:42:57 -0500, glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Sean Akers wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to play X-Wing Alliance through my SuSE Linux based firewall. I
>> have no problems with Halflife/TFC or Star Trek Armada. I have downloaded the
>> Zone client software and it works. In fact it all works up until I actually
>> connect to someone hosting a game at which point the connection fails. I am
>> using an NTL cable modem for my Internet connection and my firewall is
>> configured using pmfirewall.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to what I need to add to my firewall to play this game from
>> my Windows machine ?
>
>one suggestion is to look at your logs to see what the error is in the
>first place. that is the first step.
No errors anywhere in the logs (/var/log/firewall or /var/log/messages
or /var/log/warn). It's not violating my firewall it's just not
connecting to the hosting machine. I'll try upping the logging for the
firewall and see what happens.
Sean.
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From: John Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: text under icons in gnome
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:29:23 GMT
I'm sure this is easy to do, but I just can't figure out how to do it.
How does one make the text under the icons in gnome blend in the with
backgound? Currently, the text is in a white block that shows up on a blue
background.
Thanks,
John
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
From: Systwo User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:40:30 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
>
> How does Debian's bugginess compare to Redhat's? I understand that most
> of the bugs are in specific packages, not in distributions 'themselves'.
> Does it mean that most distributions are equally buggy?
>
> Thanks in advance for the insight.
>
> Wroot
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
wroot, I am running Debian 2.2 on one machine and RH 7.0 on another.
Because of ease of installation I install RH on for most linux distribution. It also
has the advantage of having much neater script files (that is all the little detail
work, the color ls etc.)
Unfortunately, it seems that I am always having to go back and fix something on the RH
machines. For example from time to time the "resolv.conif" quits working and NetScape
often locks up and on and on.
Debian on the other hand take longer to install ( I have not figured out how to use
Lizard with Debian) and requires more knowledge about the machine, but once it is up
and working right it stays working. I have used early versions of Slack and Caldera
and recent versions of Red Hat, Mandrake and Debian and Debian seems to be the most
stable. In-fact that is what I user for my server.
My option and $2.25 will get you a cup of coffee if the starbucks is open.
jj
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: MODEM SPEED; chump kppp retarded it, no?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 00:32:44 +0800
> > I manage to connect to the internet but I saw that my modem speed is
> > different I'm loggin at 33600 and with windows I connect at 52000
> > In the set up I put at 57600
>
> What it says your connected at doesn't mean much. To gauge your
> connection speed, download something from your ISP, time it and do the
> math. That's the only accurate way to test your download or
> connection speed.
<The modem to modem speed is negotiated between the modems and you have
<little control over it.
like, excusamente,
why in my modem log does it have
CONNECT 36000 V42bis
on linux, whereas in windows98
CONNECT 57600 V42bis
Is it true that "it's OK, don't worry, no biggie."?
And furthermore, I noticed in kppp, gnome-ppp, and linuxconf,
they _assume_ that one at most would need to squeeze one line
of a modem initialization string into their glitzy little x-windows
form, where as we see below that whatever win98 was using had
flexibility to break the initialization string into as several step
process, _just incase_ it might be better that way.
Lucent Venus Serial Voice Modem
Modem inf path: ASKVENUS.INF
Modem inf section: Modem_Venus_EX
57600,N,8,1
57600,N,8,1
Initializing modem.
Send: AT<cr>
Recv: AT<cr>
Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
Interpreted response: Ok
Send: AT &F E0 &C1 &D2 V1 S0=0\V1w0<cr>
Recv: AT &F E0 &C1 &D2 V1 S0=0\V1w0<cr>
Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
Interpreted response: Ok
Send: ATS7=60S30=0L0M1\N3%C1&K3B0B15N1X4<cr>
Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
Interpreted response: Ok
Dialing.
Send: ATDT;<cr>
Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
Interpreted response: Ok
Dialing.
Send: ATDT#######<cr>
Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 57600 V42bis<cr><lf>
Interpreted response: Connect
Connection established at 57600bps.
and futhermore, how're ya gonna connect with kppp if you're not
running x-windows one day. Do the pros use 'pppd'?
[mandrake 7.2]
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Subject: Re: can't execute file on local drive
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Dec 2000 11:07:18 -0600
>>>>> "Dances" == Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dances> "man mount" line 347: user: Allow an ordinary user to
Dances> mount the file system. This option implies the options
Dances> noexec, nosuid, and nodev (unless overridden by subsequent
Dances> options, as in the option line user,exec,dev,suid).
Ahh yes, the documentation! How could I forget?
Thank you very much,
John Hunter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Q:Newbie Looking for alternatives from MacroShot
Date: 14 Dec 2000 16:16:59 -0600
>>>>> "Richard" == Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Richard> I just read on Corel's web site about adding prog under linux
Richard> & it mentioned that it would take effect upon starting the
Richard> computer again. I thought linux didn't need to be rebooted
Richard> after adding things. I'm buying a computer & don't know
Richard> which distribution I should get (No Win for me, I hate the
Richard> crashes & reboots). Any direction would help. Please
Richard> respond via the newsgroup.
About the only thing that Really Forcibly mandates rebooting is if you
install a fresh kernel. Or if you want to install new hardware.
Changing drive partitions using fdisk _may_ not fully take effect
until you reboot; that represents a quasi-hardware change.
Aside from that, you may need to restart some processes; it is quite
unlikely that this mandates restarting the computer.
>From least-invasive to most-invasive:
-> If you start a New Shell (e.g. - type in "bash" or "ksh" or "tcsh"
or "zsh" or whatever name corresponds with the value of environment
variable SHELL), _that_ should get the system to recognize most
configuration changes.
-> If you log out and restart your _user_ session, that should
suffice.
-> If you log in to an X session using xdm, then you might hit
"Control-Alt-Backspace," which will kill X ["with fairly extreme
prejudice"], and, as with the preceding option, restart your user
session. Slightly "less friendly;" it'll still work pretty OK.
[It sort of parallels the Windows NT "Ctl-Alt-Delete to log in"
thing...]
-> It is _possible_ that whatever Corel Linux is using to populate
user menus needs to run a program that looks at what is installed
in order to indicate what should be on the menu. It is doubtful
that this would run at boot time; more likely, it runs immediately
after installing a bunch of new software. This isn't really an
"option" of "something to do," but more of a "I dunno what they do
under the covers; this might represent something odd that happens
somewhere odd."
-> You might need to restart some system services; typically done by
logging in as root and running things like:
# cd /etc/init.d
# ./nfs-server restart
# ./something-else restart
At which point not much more need be done; no need to reboot; just
log in under ordinary user ID...
-> You might not be sure what all to restart.
In which case you might log in as root and restart Everything Short
Of The Kernel.
# init 1
[stops a whole lot of stuff; pulls machine back to single user
mode; asks for password]
Password: [enter root password]
# init 3
Changing to "runlevel 1" and back to "runlevel 3" will restart just
about everything; that will suffice to clear up just about anything
that _could_ ail your system short of changing kernels.
-> Most invasive of all is to reboot.
I would _not_ commend Corel Linux as a good choice; it is a pretty
heavily-hacked-up derivative of Debian, with some somewhat peculiar
design choices. [They tend to have older drivers, and some fairly
old, possibly-badly-hacked-up versions of KDE utilities. Better to
get more recent versions that are now part of Debian proper.]
Better ideas would include:
a) StormLinux is a somewhat "less peculiar" derivative of Debian; it
has all the merits of "easy upgradability" that Debian's apt-get
buys you, and comes with a fairly pretty installer;
b) Red Hat Linux has long been a fairly good choice; I would suggest
version 6.2 over 7.0, as their ".0" releases tend to be a mite
"bleeding edge," and you wouldn't want the blood to be yours...
c) SuSE is very credible; lots of folks around where I am like it, and
it comes with lots of software.
d) Those that want something Just About Like Red Hat but with a
slightly different take on "bleeding edge" tend to commend
Mandrake.
Any of these should be pretty acceptable. They all dip into the same
"streams" of source code, so that while they'll all have new boxes a
year from now, they'll all likely be converged towards better versions
of Mostly The Same Software.
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From: jaalaw1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slow printing
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:11:27 -0800
I have a network printer on a rh6.2 box that has been working fine. I
put LPRng on my rh7.0 box and now my print jobs go out right away but
are not printed for 2 or more minutes.
I am pretty cerain no changes have been made to the printer box.
Another box with rh6.2 gets immediate response sometimes, and delayed
printing sometimes.
Any help greatly appreciated.
rfjones
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From: Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for a Fax Solution
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:22:26 +0100
Peter Depuydt wrote:
>
> Hello world,
>
> I guess the subject say it all.
>
> I'm looking for a Client/linux-server based fax solution that also has
> windows clients.
> Something in the genre of GFI's Faxmaker -> www.gfifax.com
>
> Basicaly I want want to run the run the fax-server on a Linux box (Incomming
> and outgoing). But I need a client software that runs under windows as well.
>
> Does such a piece of software exist ?? Is it being developed ??
> Or is it still a DIY-project (Do It Yourself)??
>
> Kind regards
> Peter Depuydt
> IT System Architect
>
Server: Take a look at HylaFax (http://www.hylafax.org)
There are a number of clients for Hylafax including Windows Clients (I
use whfc)
Wolfgang
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:42:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hal B writes:
> > Is stable Debian still at 2.0 on kernel?
>
> 2.2r2 comes with 2.2.17, I believe. You can. of course, install
whatever
> kernel you want.
I thought odd-numbered kernels were unstable, while even-numbered ones
were stable. Did they include an 'unstable' kernel in a 'stable'
distibution?
Wroot
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http://www.deja.com/
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From: "David Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Great Opportunity in NYC!!!!
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:50:22 -0500
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is a journalized file system?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:53:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I was recently reading an article discussing Linux, and the article
> reference something called a "journalized file system". What is a
> journalized file system, and what is it used for?
Basic idea:
Updates to the filesystem are put into a "journal" just before
updating the filesystem proper.
The result of this is a substantial improvement in robustness of the
filesystem; if power goes down while you're updating files, it is no
longer necessary to run a long, drawn-out fsck that looks _all over_
for discrepancies; the system need only look at what's in the
"journal," as that represents the set up updates that may not have
made it to the FS proper.
This is a big deal if:
a) People shut down their systems uncleanly on a regular basis, as
with home users with flakey power,
b) People have big file servers where it may take a Very Long Time
[hours?] to run fsck if there is a power outage or other "minor
disaster."
Most commercial Unixes [AIX, Solaris, HP/UX, IRIX, Digital Unix all
leap to mind] have offered some form of journalling filesystem for
several years now; several approaches to journalling are under way for
Linux, including:
- A port of the OS/2 JFS
- ReiserFS
- SGI's XFS
- A journalled version of ext2 called ext3
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:05:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hal B writes:
> > > Is stable Debian still at 2.0 on kernel?
> >
> > 2.2r2 comes with 2.2.17, I believe. You can. of course, install
> whatever
> > kernel you want.
>
> I thought odd-numbered kernels were unstable, while even-numbered ones
> were stable. Did they include an 'unstable' kernel in a 'stable'
> distibution?
No, 2.2.17 is in the "stable" series as are 2.2.16, 2.2.15, 2.2.14, ...
The "unstable" series, at this point, is 2.3.whatever.
It's that second "octet" that indicates whether it's a "stable" version:
- 1.0.x was stable
- 1.1.x was unstable
- 1.2.x was stable
- 1.3.x was unstable
- 2.0.x was stable
- 2.1.x was unstable
- 2.2.x is a "stable" series
- 2.3.x is "unstable"
- 2.4.x _will be_ a stable series.
This _doesn't_ imply anything about the quality of a given kernel
release; bugs can make _any_ of them _effectively_ unstable.
The point is that in "x.even.y", the only changes are supposed to come
from either bug fixes, or features that were well-tested in an
unstable version.
"x.odd.y" is where experimental stuff gets integrated in, like new
devices, new filesystems, and such...
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artifact which can destroy me, I will not send all my troops out to
seize it. Instead I will send them out to seize something else and
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Dec 2000 13:08:18 -0500
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:42:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hal B writes:
>> > Is stable Debian still at 2.0 on kernel?
>>
>> 2.2r2 comes with 2.2.17, I believe. You can. of course, install
>> whatever kernel you want.
>
>I thought odd-numbered kernels were unstable, while even-numbered ones
>were stable. Did they include an 'unstable' kernel in a 'stable'
>distibution?
That would be based on the minor version number (second digit). So 2.1.x
and 2.3.x are considered development branches. 2.2.anything is not. 2.4
is pre-stable <g> at this point.
--
Hal B
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