Linux-Misc Digest #606, Volume #18 Wed, 13 Jan 99 23:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Emacs! Re: Easy UNIX editor (Paul Miller)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Frank Hale)
Re: configuring non-standard audio device? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: * and dot files ("Michael P. Reilly")
HELP: tape experts!!!! URGENT (Markus Kohler)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: * and dot files (Dave Brown)
Re: 2038 and Linux (Marco Anglesio)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Jim Richardson)
Audio: sndconfig not working on RH 5.2 (Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Brahim Mouhdi)
Reporting security problems in Linux (Brian McCauley)
Re: Zoom Modem (Carl Fink)
Re: I need HELP with monitoring utilitites for Linux (brian moore)
Re: pppd and user permissions (Frank Hale)
Re: Wearing the Redhat 5.2 giving many headaches ("Graham K. Glover")
Linux newbie asks a question about booting Linux that he believes he already knows
the answer to ("Mark Wallis")
Re: kde and ppp problems (Larry)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ( Larry Pyeatt)
A printer Quest... (Jorge)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why Pentium Pro?) (Robert Sexton)
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From: Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Emacs! Re: Easy UNIX editor
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:03:44 -0500
> Personally, I prefer NEdit. Simpler, faster, and lighter than emacs, yet
> it has superior syntax highlighting and brace matching for programming
I'll have to agree - far easier/less bloated than emacs. I use Crisp
personally.
--
Paul Miller - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:07:35 GMT
> B> As far as demand goes, demand comes from people being as stupid as
> B> you are. If every one was as smart as I am (IQ == 153) they'd be
> B> using Linux.
>
if (IQ == 153)
{
Use_Linux = TRUE;
Use_Windows = FALSE;
Intelligence = "Smart";
printf(" If every one was as smart as I am (IQ = %d) they'd
be
using Linux.\n", IQ);
} else {
Use_Windows = TRUE;
Use_Linux = FALSE;
Intelligence = "idiot";
printf(" I am an %s I use Windows and my IQ is (IQ = %d) \n",
Intelligence, IQ);
}
ran on windows in a dos box
C:\>IQ.exe
I am an idiot I use Windows and my IQ is ?#@$!__)(***&Y^
'Division by zero error', 'Your application has preformed an illegal
action and will be shutdown', 'General Protection Fault in module
kernel386.exe at location ...........', 'Ctrl Alt Delete end
task.......', 'Blue screen of death', 'Windows was not shutdown properly
would you like to run scandisk?', 'The following windows system files
were corrupted and windows cannot restore them, please reinstall windows
to restore these files.'
c:\>format c:
insert RedHat boot disk, Insert RedHat CD and reboot...........
...............
Linux Successfully loaded.
Reboot
...............
RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.0.36
login: Genious
password:
Genious@localhost >
(thinking) "Hum I don't see that blue screen anymore!!! No GPF faults
either.... No application errors....... No corrupted files.......... Wow
X looks pretty cool.......... This thing doesn't seem to crash........
Pretty fast too........
(MS Demons slowly being
exorcised...AHHHHHHHHH..HEAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY......UGHHHHHHHHH......(Demons
gone) (Man seems a little confused.... Opens eyes) Man see Linux on
screen, Man use Linux, Man like Linux alot, Man don't use Windows no
more........."
ran IQ under linux again
> ./IQ
If every one was as smart as I am (IQ = 153) they'd be using Linux.
>
(thinking) "Well I am using Linux now so my IQ must be >= 153. Yeah
thats right!!!"
(Genious) Hey maa this program says I am smart my IQ is 153.
(Mom) Son I told you to qui' mess'n round wit dem infernal
contraptions....
(Genious) Ooooh Maaaaaaaaaaa ..............
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: configuring non-standard audio device?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:22:39 GMT
First su to root and run the setup program. You will see a section on audio.
If there are drivers there for you card use them if not try setting up generic
drivers using the same settings you use under windows.
frm
In article <77dbe6$78s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant W. Petty) wrote:
>
> I have a Pentium-II PC with both Win98 and Linux (SuSe 5.3). Instead of
> the usual Soundblaster-compatible sound card, I have an Event Darla
> digital audio recording/playback card (PCI) which currently handles
> all *.wav type I/O under Win98. For MIDI I/O under Win98, I use the
> Roland serial port MIDI driver connected to an external MIDI sound
> module. In short, under Win98 I am able to do everything one normally
> would want a Soundblaster card to do, but with much higher audio
> quality.
>
> My problem is that I have no idea how to get my audio setup to also
> work under Linux, or whether it's even possible. I already suspect
> that configuring the serial port for MIDI I/O will be impossible under
> Linux (since it seems to require Win-specific audio drivers), but I
> still harbor a glimmer of hope of making the Darla card work for
> digital audio recording/playback. Does anyone have any idea how to
> proceed?
>
> thanks
>
> grant
>
> --
> Grant W. Petty |Assoc. Prof., Atmospheric Science
> Dept. of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences |Voice: (765)-494-2544
> Purdue University, 1397 CIVL Bldg. |Fax: (765)-496-1210
> West Lafayette, IN 47907-1397, USA |Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:00:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is sad and true that MS Windows it the operating system of most people...
Let us put it this way... It is the operating system of the non elite
computer users, AKA Dumb Users... They want nothing but a nice, hassle free
way of computing, not caring that all their devices are on the same level and
left to duke it out, or that they can't setup the GUI differently... You
know, its dumb users who inspire shit like Windows, but as long they exist,
which will be forever, Windows will exist...
In article <77icc4$p3f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Con Tiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Linux will never be popular among most computer users
> > >
>
> That's a great one-line to pull out of that post, you don't work for a
> Newspaper or News station, do you?
>
> > And I can safely say that windows never will either.
> >
> >
>
> Windows IS popular among most computer users. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be
> the top of the commercial OS heap. But as I explained in my previous post,
> thanks to Bill G., most computer users now are spoon-fed dorks who can't even
> read the instructions printed on the VCR about how to set their clocks.
> People who can't read that Compact Disk Logo that is printed on the front of
> their CD-Roms, and think that the retractable tray is like their car's coffee
> cup holder, and in all reality have no business using computers.
>
> Mike
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Michael P. Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * and dot files
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:11:08 GMT
In comp.unix.shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In article <bcNm2.60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: "Michael P. Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Dot files are meant to be hidden files. The asterisk wildcard is not
:> supposed to catch "hidden" dot files.
:>
:> One common idiom is to use ".??*", which won't get files like ".a" or ".,"
:> but that often isn't a problem. You can also use find(1):
:> find <dir> -name . -o -print
:>
:> -Arcege
: How about rm `ls -A`
Works well. :) But some versions of ls(1) left out the -A option.
-Arcege
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From: Markus Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,fj.comp.dev.tape,fido.ger.linux
Subject: HELP: tape experts!!!! URGENT
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:32:25 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
please, please help me. Otherwise I will loose important data.
I have written tar files onto the tape using "cat filename >
/dev/nftape". When I had written everything I checked the status with
"mt -f /dev/nftape status" and indeed the data must have been written,
because there were only some 114 Meg left instead of the 400Meg before.
Unfortunatelly, I have forgotten to write an eof to the tape. Now, I
wanted to read the tar-files from the tape and cannot get them back.
The mt command always stops at the last file no 18. But this is not the
last one. And I cannot get beyond this file.
How can I get beyond this border line? Is there any way? I tried cat, dd
etc. Nothing worked.
My hardware is a PC with a seagate tapestore 3200. I use ftape 3.04d and
have a 2.0.33 kernel.
Please send me any any tips or hints, any ideas.
Thanks!!! In advance.
Markus
--
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Fachbereich Informatik der Universitaet Dortmund
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:54:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>yea? just to let you know, I won first place at my school arguing
>compition. out of 50 students, I was the only one left arguning when
>eveyone gave up. so, here you go.
Is it just me, or does this comment make anyone else smile?
"I was still arguing when everyone else had long since given up and
moved on to better things, ignoring anything I spew forth"....
Bernie
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...let's go exploring"
Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: * and dot files
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Jan 99 02:05:48 GMT
In article <6bTm2.120$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>In comp.unix.shell Dave Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: In article <kqPm2.79$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>:>
>:>Important!! Make sure that you do NOT include "-r" in the above command.
>:>The wildcard ".*" will match "." and ".." and will delete the parent
>:>directory and it's contents.
>
>: Have you tried this? You can't remove a directory that's "busy", i.e.,
>: if it's your current directory, it's "busy".
>
>It has been tried, yes, and it removes the directories in the parent on
>some versions of UNIX. It is a restriction of rm(1) not rmdir(2); ".."
>wouldn't be the current directory. For example on SunOS, you can
>remove a directory, even if it is rm's current directory (you get
>"can't stat ." for an error afterward). It all depends on what the OS
>will allow.
"in-core inodes"? Whatya trying to do, snow me?
Actually, I take back what I said about directories being busy. You're right,
that a directory being the current directory of a user does NOT prevent that
directory from being removed.
But, at least in the two systems I have ready access to: AIX and Linux,
" rm -r .* " will not remove the current directory, nor the parent directory.
Instead, an error message is generated, " Cannot remove '.' or '..' ".
Incidentally, the error message was worded exactly that same on both *nixes.
I suspect POSIX compliance may be at work there.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:18:32 GMT
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Until Intel *stops making money* on IA-32 chips, they are unlikely to
> stop making them. Consider that they still manufacture 8 bit
> microcontrollers.
I'm not sure about that; remember them cutting off Pentium sales in order
to gain market share for the (then new) PII. They are willing to convert
their production lines very quickly - probably especially for the consumer
market.
Not that this is a bad idea; it reduces the price of associated parts
(motherboards, etc) by increasing their volume. It is merely a huge risk,
especially for a company as big as Intel.
marco
--
Marco Anglesio Like Captain Idiot
mpa at the-wire dot com in Astounding Science comics
http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa (The Manchurian Candidate)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:48:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:42:56 -0700,
Keith Peterson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> brought forth the following words...:
>
>>You guys are a laugh. This is the most ignorant drivel I have
>>seen in this NG. If there were any valuable anything in the ground
>>on a reservation, the Indians would be mining it themselves.
>>You are making them out to be a bunch of ignorant savages, when
>>in reality they are some of the most shrewd business people
>>around. You insult them by your assertion.
>
>
><Lengthy reply snipped>
>
>For a guy with a lot to say on the subject, you apparently can't read.
for someone who critisizes others reading abilties, it is amusing that
you didn't seem to notice that he was replying to someone other than you.
>
>I never made that assertion you are claiming, nor did I even remotely imply
>it. Yet you lump me into this category.
what assertion did he claim that _you_ made?
>
>Improve your reading skills.
>
>And just how, in your twisted logic, does the fact that many reservations
>are doing well now justify the original actions? I know some wealthy Jewish
>people. Did the germans do them a favour?
>
where did you get this from. I read the same post, that's not what he said,
perhaps you might like the name of a good reading comprehension instructor?
>
>
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Audio: sndconfig not working on RH 5.2
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:50:51 +0000
(Running RedHat 5.2 on a Compaq 4764)
For some odd reason, I can't seem to configure my sound device.
Compaqs use a chip (not a real sound card), and on RedHat 5.1,
I had no trouble configuring the sound 'chip' using sndconfig.
All I had to do was mess with the IRQ, DMA, and the address
a few times, and walla! I eventually discovered the right settings.
Now, however, on RH 5.2, I can't get anything to work. When the
configurator tries to kick in, I get an error message, something along
the lines of 'cannot open /dev/audio'. Don't know why!
If I try to use 'wavplay' on a sound file, I receive the following
message:
Operation not supported by device:
Opening audio device /dev/dsp
I'm a bit perplexed in this. I don't know what the device 'dsp' is
used for, and why the audio is trying to route through that.
Anyone have any thoughts on this (and why the hell I can't get
sndconfig up and runnin')?
>>Matt<<
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From: Brahim Mouhdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:14:25 +0100
I'm very curious, if a qualified theraphist was able to prevent you from
going insane.
You probably have a lot of anger inside you.
Get help and be nice, so you may end up with a girl someday.
0800-HELPME
a friend
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reporting security problems in Linux
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:08:57 +0000
I have found a what I believe to be secuity hole in SuSE 5.3 Linux.
I suspect that it effects most Linux distributions.
It is also possible that the same problem exists on other Unicies.
The most obvious exploit of this hole would require a non-privilegded
shell on the target machine and the ability to mount a CD-ROM of ones
own making (either through the "user" option in /etc/fstab or by
asking the admin to mount it).
Unfortunately the fix is non-trival requiring both a kernel patch and
a patch to at least one program.
I realise this is all a bit vague but don't want to go into too much
detail here on comp.os.linux.misc until I've "officially" reported it.
Where do I report it in such a way that there's a good chance that the
"good guys" will become aware of it at lesat as soon as the "bad
guys"?
I hoped that the Security-HOWTO would cover this but it does not.
linux-alert seems dead - at least the achive has vanished.
Do I report it to SuSE and rely on them to inform the other
distributors?
Do I send it too www.rootshell.com?
Do I sent it to CERT even though I don't know of any actual instances
of attacks?
Do I post to comp.os.linux.announce?
Advice please.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Zoom Modem
Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:39:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:37:20 -0000, Jeff Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a zoom 56k flex modem upgraded to v.90. It performs quite well but
>sometimes it locks up. I then have to turn it off and back on again. This
>gets frustrating because it is in another part of the building.
I have that modem. It never locks up.
It's hardware, I'd bet. Is it in a closet-type location? Check the
temperature.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Your brain is actually a fabulously complex computer, which means that
on Jan. 1, 2000, it will stop working and your body will flop around
like a recently caught perch." (Dave Barry, slightly paraphrased.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: I need HELP with monitoring utilitites for Linux
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:30:19 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:25:59 +0100,
sweller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Anyone out there who knows of any monitoring utilitites for Linux - I'm
> desperate to start
> monitoring a large set of Linux print servers my company currently has
> working all over Europe.
What I use:
mon, available from http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/admin/mon/
(you may have to use one of the kernel.org mirrors, since the 2.2
prereleases are keeping the main site busy. See http://www.kernel.org/
for a list of mirror sites).
Mon is basically a scheduler for testing things, like a specialized
'cron'. It uses a collection of simple programs for monitoring and
alerting, which makes it easy to add services to monitor and new ways to
alert. (I have alerts that come in via numeric pager: my linux machine
connects to a terminal server and dials out on one of the modems
attached to it to generate the alerts. I also have email alerts and an
auto-escalation if the on-duty pager isn't answered quickly.)
Mon also has a command line interface (so you can acknowledge down
situations, disable monitoring a given host/service, etc) and a web
interface, though usually it just runs silently in the background,
babysitting your network.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd and user permissions
Date: 14 Jan 1999 02:25:19 GMT
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>
> >$command="/usr/sbin/pppd name \"".$NAME."\"".
> > " -d connect \'/usr/sbin/chat -t 45 -v ABORT BUSY \"\" ATDT".
> > $PHONE." CONNECT \"\"\' ".$MODEM.
> > " 115200 noipdefault modem defaultroute crtscts";
>
> >As you can see I pass pppd the name option here. The error message I get
>
> Put it into the /etc/ppp/options file instead. It is a priviledged
> command, and not to be used from teh command line to prevent users from
> doing nasty things.
Sorry but put what in the /etc/ppp/options file? I didn't make the perl
script I just want to be able to execute it as a user and have it work.
--
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/
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From: "Graham K. Glover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wearing the Redhat 5.2 giving many headaches
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:15:13 -0500
INZTRUKT wrote:
>
> For about a year, I have been using the slakware with great satisfaction.
> I have installed everthing from the slakware except the networking
> sections. Now I have a network. Someone misinformed me that RH5.2 has the
> xemacs in it. I do not see it. But I assume that it has the support for
> the new motherboard or the MMX chip that slakware would not boot up on,
> and simply crash. Now RH5.2 boots up and installs very well. But it is
> very slow.
xemacs: It is a part of the powertools set. You can either buy cd-roms
of it or download it from the 'net.
rhl5.2 slow: Hmmm... It shouldn't be. Do you have any powermanagement
crap set in the bios?
> I have installed the complete distribution and each and every package.
> It boots under the kernel that it installed. But takes 1/2 hr. It hangs at
> many points:
>
> amd
> httpd
> smbd
> apache_init some fat error
> nmbd
Have you tried installing just some of the packages? Did you notice any
strange messages during the install? My suggestion would be to try a
minimal install of rhl5.2. Try to identify where the system is failing.
> [much clipped]
You've obviously experienced lots of troubles, and have tried lots of
things.
Use DejaNews powersearch on the full archive for any of your problems.
If you see lots of messages on a particular problem, you should easily
find the solution. If you don't, then the likelihood is that you're
probably seeing a symptom of something else. Simplify your search.
Case in point is the speed of rhl and boot speed. rhl5.2 boots in about
a minute on each of my machines, including one running apache on our
intranet. Its overall speed is fine, even though it is a P5/133. emacs
in a virtual console and in x works just fine; I do not use xemacs,
however.
> Is slakware alive or out of business? Is there anyother company which is
> carrying on the slakware's flag? Is there any distribution that has
> xemacs, and other things like the secure server as well as software
> running on computer cluster?
http://www.slackware.org/
Check search engines for "cheap" disk distributions.
Finally in closing, I've used lots of variants and releases of free UNIX
- Red Hat, Slackware, Turbo, and SuSE (Euro and Int'l) Linux, as well as
FreeBSD. I return invariably to Red Hat Linux. Why? It works on my
machines, a tower, desktop, and laptop. Frankly, if Slackware works for
you, stick with it.
--
Graham
I can't be a Masochist; they use Windows.
http://www.erols.com/grahamkg
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From: "Mark Wallis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux newbie asks a question about booting Linux that he believes he already
knows the answer to
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:44:53 -0500
But...I thought I'd ask anyway.
I have a 6.5GB hard drive with DOS and Win and OS/2. Eventually I want to
ditch all these OSes entirely, but for the time being I want to run them
all.
Here's the rub:
I want to install Linux after cyl. 1023, therefore keeping all the existing
stuff intact (for now). I know, I know, they say it can't be done, but I
thought I'd dump it out here anyway. And I like to experiment, but help from
newsgroups does save a considerable amount of time. Perhaps simply booting
from a floppy would work, but I won't hold my breath. I already have a
seperate dedicated machine running Linux flawlessly and impressively, so, if
my imaginary boot scenario doesn't work out, I can still enjoy Linux.
Thanks in advance,
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: kde and ppp problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Jan 1999 18:41:43 GMT
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:43:12 +0100, Francesc Guasch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Peter Polman wrote:
>>
>> Francesc Guasch wrote:
>>
>> > Since I installed kde I cannot connect through ppp.
>> > The connections starts and the modem hungs in a minute.
>> > When kde isn't loaded ppp connects fine.
>> > What's up ?
>>
>> Have you tried using the KDE native app "kppp" ? I had no problems
>> getting it to work first time.
>
>I will try. But .. anyway ...
>The fact is with kde loaded I cannot use my ppp connection.
>When kde is not loaded I CAN !
>I don't see why kde breaks my network ppp. And I don't like
>it at all. There must be a reason ? Is that only a bug ?
>I haven't used xwindows without kde, is that an xwindows
>issue ? I got xfree-3.1.2.
This IS strange. I run my slip account without any problems, even booting in
and out of KDE from the command line doesn't affect my connection to the
net.
Are you getting any errors? Are you using KDE under a different user name
than what you start your ppp account with?
This is a strange one. I'm afraid I can't be much help. Good luck.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Larry Pyeatt)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 03:03:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Morris) writes:
<snip>
> I mean...... why couldn't have an operating system
> like Linux be developed a LONG time ago and used
> on the early PC's and DOS could have never
> existed??
> Was DOS the only way to get an OS on such machines
> back then??
The 8086 processor was very limited. It really was not
built to support decent multitasking, memory protection, etc.
Microcomputers of that time were usually limited to 64k
memory, so the OS had to be very tiny. Basically, something
like DOS was the only way to go.
--
Larry D. Pyeatt All standard disclaimers apply.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Void where prohibited.
http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~pyeatt
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:51:24 -0500
From: Jorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A printer Quest...
Although Linux is suppose to support the Epson Stylus 800 attached to my
box, for some reason I can't get anything but ascii text printed on it.
Am I to set up the printer first, so that Linux can recognize it, or did
I miss something at installation time?
Please replay directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Sexton)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why Pentium Pro?)
Date: 13 Jan 1999 19:13:34 GMT
Andrew Comech ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Adam Sampson wrote:
: >
: > On 3 Jan 1999 21:33:51 -0500, Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > >I've got K6-2 333 (running cool at 350=100x3.5 without
: > >the voltage increase) on FIC 2013 (1MB cache).
: > >Not a single trouble under Debian 2.0.
: >
: > Have you tried the K6 kernel patches? The last I found would only work
: > against 2.0.36, and I'm still running 2.0.34...
Have you tried FreeBSD? We don't have to spend time tracking
down patches :-).
Sorry, couldn't resist...
--
Robert Sexton - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cincinnati OH, USA
Che Eng/Philo 709: Life is just one big optimization problem - Me
Read the Newton FAQ! <http://www.kudra.com/newton/newton-faq>
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