Linux-Misc Digest #651, Volume #18 Sun, 17 Jan 99 01:13:08 EST
Contents:
gtk+-1.1.2 install problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Earthlink unfriendly to Linux (Bill Unruh)
help to solve the problem with X-server ("Sergey")
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Alexander Viro)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Kevin Martin)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Joshua Schaeffer")
syslog ! (fencer)
where did shutdown go? I miss it! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Question: Dial-in line only gives login prompt every second connection (eli)
Re: Lynx won't connect remote files... (Bill Hay)
Re: XFee86 and the SiS 530 chipset problem ("Donald E. Stidwell")
Re: 3dfx / opengl support (Michael Powe)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Michael Fleming)
searching for lex (Brassel Claude)
Re: help to solve the problem with X-server (Blaine Lupulack)
Re: R/W CD as backup option? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: help to solve the problem with X-server (Frank Hale)
Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: where did shutdown go? I miss it! (Frank Hale)
Re: Samba and CD burning over LAN (Leslie Mikesell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gtk+-1.1.2 install problem
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 02:26:51 GMT
hi
I am trying to install the gtk+-1.1.2 rpm onto my RedHat linux (5.2) system.
When i use rpm and try to install it, I get the following error:
error 2 reading header: SUCCESS
unpacking of archive failed on file (null): 3: Success
error: gtk+-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
does anyone know how to fix the problem or even what it means.
I've tried downloading the rpm from different sites so i am pretty sure it is
not the rpm...more likely something to do with my system.
I even tried installing 1.1.1 but got the same error.....(I can however
install ver 1.0.4 without a problem)
Any help would be appreciated
thanks
Gareth
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Earthlink unfriendly to Linux
Date: 16 Jan 1999 03:50:25 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
>Well, not sure if I'd go that far: since a dialup user could do nasty
>things with mail loops. (Though it's unclear whether to count a
>.forward on a pair of well-connected servers as 'dialup', so maybe I'm
>just being pedantic. Having seen half a T1 consumed by a mail loop,
>it's not pretty.)
And most modern sendmails do loop detection so they do not get tied up
in this way.
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From: "Sergey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: help to solve the problem with X-server
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:34:58 +1000
Hello, ALL!
Resently I've installed Linux Slackware 3.5 and when tried to enter
X-Windows got this:
Could not find config file!
- Tried:
/root/XF86Config
/etc/XF86Config
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.localhost
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
Fatal server error:
no config file found!
I don't know what to do with it, the installation was OK and I installed
all the packages. Help!
You'd better e-mail me!
Tristan
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , ICQ:25245216
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:47:38 -0500
In article <36a10353.9119122@News>, George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there anything outside of a ported unix tool
>> that does regular expressions in Windows?
>
>Is there some reason why it would matter if it was ported or not?
>If the tool is available, what difference does it make?
Dunno if the Borland's grep was ported or written from scratch (not a BFD)
but it was there around '87 (at least). One of the things that made the
damned parody on OS slightly more tolerable. But I *missed* awk. And sed.
And sh. And... aaaarrggh. Memories.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Martin)
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:19:59 GMT
>I guess my point is, what is the goal of users of the Linux platform,
>anyway?
Good question, but why the devil are you asking it in comp.os.linux.misc,
AND comp.os.linux.networking, AND comp.os.linux.portable, AND
comp.os.linux.powerpc, AND comp.os.linux.setup?
*I'm* not idiot-friendly. Neither is Usenet. If you don't pay attention
to where your followups are going, you can be tricked into all sorts of
unpleasant things. If you don't pay attention to where your followups go,
you're just a spam-sprayer waiting for someone to abuse you -- or use you to
abuse someone else.
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From: "Joshua Schaeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:22:13 -0500
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
>That's great. I used to do all my word processing in college on a
>C128. Remember those? Kind of puts people using Pentiums for the same
>thing in perspective...
The difference is that the time it took to boot up that word processor on
the C128 was likely long enough to permit you to make a sufficient stop at
the bathroom with a few moments to spare.
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From: fencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: syslog !
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:29:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't connect to internet with my ISP.
I got the message : "the ppp daemon died unexpectedly".
I tried to get some trace by modifying the syslog.conf file. I added
this line :
daemon.* /var/log/daemon
the file daemon is created but it is empty.
Is it possible to trace daemons activity (specially pppd)
where can I find a good explanation about syslog ?
Thanks
fencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: where did shutdown go? I miss it!
Date: 17 Jan 1999 03:42:10 GMT
I was trying to install the Mesa OpenGL work-alike and the make failed
since, it claimed, some files were missing. I went to the offending
directory to look and, lo and behold, there they were. Strange.
Decided to reboot into Windows and surf the net for a while for info.
When I tried to run shutdown, the system claimed there was "no such
file or directory." So I went to /sbin and looked and there it was.
But it would not run for love or money, not with an explicit path, not
when logged in as another user and then as su, not when logged in from
a new console. No matter what, the system claimed that shutdown did
not exist except for purposes of a directory listing. Obviously,
something bad happened to the file system.
So I have my choice -- stay in Linux forever and live with virtual
files or shut the power off and screw it.
I shut the power off.
Of course, the result is that now it won't boot into Linux at all. It
gripes about the file system and then says it can't even start a
console.
What is the deal here? It took six months and three separate
workarounds just to get Linux installed and now I have to go through
that all again with no confidence that I won't have to do it monthly
from now on. If this is stability, give me Windows. It may crash a lot
but it is damned hard to get it to not boot.
Anybody seen this behavior before??
Paul J. Camp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eli)
Subject: Question: Dial-in line only gives login prompt every second connection
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 05:22:44 GMT
Hi, I'm sorry if this isn't the right newsgroup. Couldn't find
any faq's and most groups seemed dead so i figured this would be the
safest place to ask.
Problem: The modem picks up every time (though it takes several
seconds to reset after each call) and connects, but it consistantly
only shows /etc/issue and gives a login prompt every second time.
(every other time i just just a blank screen and have to hang up and
call back).
I am running a slakware 2.0 installation (1.2.1 kernal) of linux
and would like to set it up so that people can dial-in, I have a
14.4K accer modem on com2 (ttyS1) and added the following line to
/etc/inittab
#default runlevel
id:5:initdefault:
# dialup lines
d1:45:respawn:/sbin/agetty -h -mt60 19200,9600,2400,1200 ttyS1 vt100
I know mgetty is better suited for dialup lines (after reading the
Serial and Text-Terminal and Modem HOWTO's ... are there any other
ones out there that might be useful?) but agetty should work just
fine too no? I thought maybe the 19200 was a problem but it works
the same either way.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I should be looking into to figure
this out? Thank you very much in advance.
Btw, anyone know a better term setting than vt100 to be using? I
thought I could just use ansi since that's what most people have their
term programs set to but i guess ansi seems to mean something
different to everyone (that seems very ironic to me). The only
problem i have with using vt100 for dialin lines is that it seems to
leave a write background trail whever characters move (like when
playing tetris or using pine etc). Or should i just get users to
set their own emulations in their .profile themselves and leave me
alone :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Hay)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Lynx won't connect remote files...
Date: 16 Jan 1999 12:57:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin McKinnon wrote:
>My version of lynx doesn't understand that an IP address may have multiple
>names - it resolves the ip address then sends the request to the address -
>not to the name. Where there are multiple virtual hosts running on the same
>machine, lynx can only see one.
This is standard in http 1.0 where the client doesn't tell the client
the name of the host it is requesting the file from. You should be able to
work around this in most cases by specifying a proxy server. Proxy
servers are always requested to serve the full URL even in http 1.0
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From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: XFee86 and the SiS 530 chipset problem
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:47:17 -0500
Jerry wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to get XFree86 running on my SiS 530 chipset. The video
> inside the chip is a 64-bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator(6326??), but all
<snippity-snip>
I am using the SiS 6326 and it drove me batty trying to get it to work
until I basically RTFM'd.
You can download the Server from SuSE's site (it's an XFCOM server) if
you're using XFree86 3.3.2 or just download and install XFree86 3.3.3
(which is what I did).
The chip does NOT support VGA16, so you can't set it up with XF86Setup.
You have to use the text mode xf86config program.
The chipset is number 502 when you get to that part of xf86config.
Answer the appropriate question about your monitor and card. Don't
probe and don't use clock settings.
This chip uses the SVGA server, so make sure you install it.
I had a problem with the screen acting "funky" using the defaults after
installation: the mouse would leave black holes when I moved the cursor
and the menus would go black when I selected them (this is in KDE).
I wound up editing the /etc/XF86Config file and uncommenting the
"noaccel" option and the funky problems went away. I currently use
1024x768 at 16 bits with absolutely no problems.
It will run 24-bit colour, but Netscape shows all it's icons and buttons
in BW (although Web pages serve up in colour). Netscape seems to be the
only program that has the 24-bit colour problem. With noaccel, I can
not do 32-bit colour, but who cares? 16-bit is fine and 24-bit works if
you don't mind the Netscape idiosyncracy.
HTH
Don
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3dfx / opengl support
Date: 12 Jan 1999 04:17:40 -0800
>>>>> "Paul" == "Your Name" <Your.Name> writes:
Paul> Is it possible to get any kind of 3dfx support thru RH5.2? I
Paul> have a V2 12 meg. I understand there are facilities for
Paul> opengl within linux.
There is some 3Dfx support available but it's limited. 3Dfx is
actually working on linux drivers but they have limited resources so
there's not likely to be anything major developed any time soon. Go
to http://glide.xxedgexx.com for a good roundup of what is and isn't
available. http://www.opengl.org and http://www.3dfx.com for more
general information. Finally,
http://www.uno.edu/~adamico/banshee/Welcome.html explains how to set
up a Banshee as a frame buffer device. This is the fallback for
unsupported cards. He says this same process will work also for other
unsupported 3D cards.
mp
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Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Fleming)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:02:16 GMT
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On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:51:17 GMT, Lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
scribed into the Great Tome of Farnarkling:
> The ultimate point being missed here is not whether Linux is better
> than 95 or Unix better than DOS or which processor could have run what
> when....
>
> It's about games.
>
> Let's face it games run the industry. You can do your word processing
> on a 286 (or on a 68030 like me) but if yo want to play games you need
> a really fast computer.
Aye - it's the games developers that tend to push the hardware specs
nowadays, at least on consumer systems. OTOH having essentially
all Win32 games needing Win9x doesn't help, as it then becomes a case
of os-specs + game-reqs = minimum-run-reqs.
> Want to play quake and make it look like glass, get a wintel with all
> the tricks and have at you! Or wait 6 mos to a year for Linux ports
> to be written by benevolent souls who take their spare time and write
> this stuff. Don't expect the guys at ID to have a Linux crew hard at
> work, they have their hands full trying to get Quake to load with a
> 640k barrier.
Erm, you do realise that Quake II patches for Linux tend to get released
at around the same time as the Win32 versions? I don't think Id is the
example you want. ;-)
(Quake I using svgalib 1.3.1 also runs about 10 fps quicker on my
Linux box - well done folks!)
> Hardware and OSs mean little without cool apps and great games. If
> the boys a Commodore had enough forsight to see their eyebrows we'd
> all be talking about Worbench 10.
There's an element of truth in that (IMO), but scads of k3wl appz and
games aren't much help if they keep going down in flames every other
hour, and that's pretty much a core argument / consideration in this
thread.
Michael Fleming.
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From: Brassel Claude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: searching for lex
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:40:11 +0100
Hello,
I have a standart SuSE 5.3 installation, and I need "lex". Where can I
find it ? Is it a standart package ?
Please Help !!!!
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From: Blaine Lupulack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: help to solve the problem with X-server
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:52:21 -0800
Sergey wrote:
> Hello, ALL!
> Resently I've installed Linux Slackware 3.5 and when tried to enter
> X-Windows got this:
> Could not find config file!
> - Tried:
> /root/XF86Config
> /etc/XF86Config
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.localhost
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> Fatal server error:
> no config file found!
> I don't know what to do with it, the installation was OK and I installed
> all the packages. Help!
> You'd better e-mail me!
>
> Tristan
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , ICQ:25245216
You have to configure X before you can get it to work.
type "xf86config" to run the configuration utility. This will create the
"XF86Config" file which is needed.
*Note: you will need to know what video card you have and some basic
knowledge of your monitor. Wouldn't hurt
to have manuals handy.
--
Blaine Lupulack
BC, Canada
--
An optimist is one who feels that we live in the best of all possible
worlds, a pessimist is one who fears he may be right...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: R/W CD as backup option?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:32:05 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>If there are issues with reading CD-RWs, that more clearly establishes the
>*superiority* of the apparently inferior technology of CD-Rs.
The issue is just that some drives can't see them at all. Most newer
readers are 'multi-mode' and have no trouble, and of course all
CD-RW drives can read them back. I don't think they are any less
reliable, and this wouldn't matter much in a backup/restore situation
as long as you have the right equipment.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: help to solve the problem with X-server
Date: 17 Jan 1999 05:12:45 GMT
Sergey wrote:
>
> Hello, ALL!
> Resently I've installed Linux Slackware 3.5 and when tried to enter
> X-Windows got this:
> Could not find config file!
> - Tried:
> /root/XF86Config
> /etc/XF86Config
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.localhost
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> Fatal server error:
> no config file found!
> I don't know what to do with it, the installation was OK and I installed
> all the packages. Help!
> You'd better e-mail me!
>
> Tristan
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , ICQ:25245216
Did you run xf86config? Sounds like you forgot to configure X.
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/
Jade: http://jade.netpedia.net/
"Excuse my english I went to a US public school"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:41:22 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christian Brideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to automate complete telnet sessions. In other words, logon-do
>stuff-get out.
>
>Is this scriptable? If not is there a macro software out there that I
>could use to perform this task?
Kermit from http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ has a reasonable scripting
language that works the same with serial ports or telnet sessions.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where did shutdown go? I miss it!
Date: 17 Jan 1999 04:26:16 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> When I tried to run shutdown, the system claimed there was "no such
> file or directory." So I went to /sbin and looked and there it was.
> But it would not run for love or money, not with an explicit path, not
> when logged in as another user and then as su, not when logged in from
> a new console. No matter what, the system claimed that shutdown did
> not exist except for purposes of a directory listing. Obviously,
> something bad happened to the file system.
>
> So I have my choice -- stay in Linux forever and live with virtual
> files or shut the power off and screw it.
>
> I shut the power off.
>
You can't shutdown as a user who has su to root. It doesn't work on my
machine and I have just did a fresh install the other day. Infact its
never worked. You need to logoff as su root and login from the console
as root before you can use shutdown. You can give users the ability to
shutdown but I haven't tried it yet, you can do it with a program called
sudo which I think comes with most distributions of linux.
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 7205161
Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/frankhale/
Jade: http://jade.netpedia.net/
"Excuse my english I went to a US public school"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Samba and CD burning over LAN
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:45:47 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kerry J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm thinking about getting a CD Read/Write for my Linux box here. I'd
>mostly use it for backing up files from off of the Solaris machines
>which run the business. But I have lots of other Win95 machines here
>in the office. They can see my Linux box just fine, provided they have
>an account. Also I can print my Linux docs though the Win95 machine
>attached to the printer also just fine. Basically, my version of Samba
>(samba-1.9.18p10-3) is working great.
>Question is, can other Windows users backup their files using my CD
>R/W? Can they use it to also burn their own MS formatted CDs with MS
>style docs on them. In other words, will the CD be accessible to the MS
>users and can they do the same with it, though it's on a Linux box, as I
>will be able to do, i.e. backup, burn audio, copy MS formatted docs,
>etc?
MS programs won't be able to access the writing functions of the
CD directly, but you can samba-share some hard drive space where
the ms-software can create images. Then they can telnet in and
use cdrecord to burn the copy or you can do it for them with
xcdroast.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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