Linux-Misc Digest #651, Volume #25                Sun, 3 Sep 00 01:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Sony Linux vs Microsoft XBox ("Michael Sage")
  Re: netscape problem (Valentin Guillen)
  Re: how to create hard-linked directories? (Juergen Heinzl)
  Local network telnet sessin hangs when connected through ppp to internet 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: how to create hard-linked directories? (Grant Edwards)
  How do you change the monitor settings? ("Arctic Storm")
  Re: system hangs ("Norman Zhang")
  Re: How do you change the monitor settings? (Bit Twister)
  Re: for in list     in bash (Barry Margolin)
  Re: How do you change the monitor settings? (David M. Cook)
  Re: Shared library and PIC (Kenny McCormack)
  Re: Caching files from CD---problem when playing MP3s on CD (Karl Heyes)
  Re: URGENT - sshd getpeername failed: Bad file descriptor (Richard E. Silverman)
  Re: Updated version of hinv perl script ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: How do you change the monitor settings? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: Basic Linux Survey ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: locate - permission denied ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  X Windows Not Display? ("T.F.Lai")
  Re: Help!  Urgent problem with gzip ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  X Windows Can't Support Sony Monitor? ("T.F.Lai")

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From: "Michael Sage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sony Linux vs Microsoft XBox
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:33:36 -0600

> Have you ever been to an electronics store with no section dedicated
> to Sony?  They usually are the biggest.

Have you ever been to the Metreon in San Francisco? It's a Sony
mall/theatre/restaurant. Vaios and TVs and Handicams everywhere! Worth
noting -- there's a Microsoft store there too.

Thanks for the though-provoking post.

Michael



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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: netscape problem
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 01:49:13 GMT

sandy,

This sounds like the issue of Netscape opening up, but you can't see any
menu items, no icons at the bottom right, etc.  Completely blank screen
for several minutes or more. 

This is caused by having incorrect networking/routing happening on your
box.  I can't tell you where your issue is precisely, because I can't
see your configuration.  

When you get your routing correct, this will disappear, and your
Netscape will come on (correctly), in several seconds.  My laptop is old
and fairly slow, 133mHz, and it takes about 15 seconds for it to come
up, assuming I have the setup configured correctly.  It can take six
minutes or more, when things are mucked up.  

When netscape is up and running, go into the preferences and set it to
either start with a blank start page, or a local page on your hard
drive.  If it's a local page, be aware that incorrect networking/routing
will cause the same issue again.  

To correct the issue, ensure that all pertinent data regarding
networking/routing is correct.  

Additionally, you might want to eliminate the "nasty" Netscape splash
screen  which has all of the "commercials".  Locate the Netscape.ad  
file on your system, open the file, seach within the file for the word  

splash  

and you'll be at the line in this config file which you can change to
eliminate it's starting with the splash screen.  

Regards, 

Valentin Guillen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: how to create hard-linked directories?
Date: 3 Sep 2000 02:02:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steffen 'Mugge' Chmil wrote:
>root-rights, same partition.
>
>ln  -d, -F, --directory  does not work...
[-]

It isn't possible with ext2fs.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl         \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Local network telnet sessin hangs when connected through ppp to internet
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 01:56:30 GMT

Hello. I just got my RedHat 6.2 box set up to dial out to my ISP using a chat
script.  I can get connected and pick up an ip address, etc., but now when
the IPS's DNS numbers are entered (automatically) into the resolv.conf file,
it takes forever to connect a telnet session from within my local network. 
It just seems to hang, even though it's connected, for almost 2 to 3 minutes,
then it finally gives me a login prompt an lets me login normally.  Is there
anyway to avoid this delay in logging in when I telnet into this machine
while I'm connected to the ISP? An answer by email would be appricaited at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in Advance!!!!

Kendal L. Montgomery
"...the comPuter Wizard..."
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator,
Findlay Industries, Inc.
Corporate IT Department


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: how to create hard-linked directories?
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 02:34:52 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steffen 'Mugge' Chmil wrote:
>>root-rights, same partition.
>>
>>ln  -d, -F, --directory  does not work...
>[-]
>
>It isn't possible with ext2fs.

For good reasons.  All hell breaks loose when you create an extra hard link
to a directory.  

SunOS used to allow root to do it.

It's not something anybody ever did a second time -- trust me.

A lot of things are predicated on the assumption that a filesystem is a tree
structure (each node has exactly one parent) and not a general directed
graph. Programs like fsck get horribly confused when this assumption is not
met.

It took me the better part of 2 days to get that filesystem into a usable
condition.  Once created, there was no way to delete the extra link.  I
finally had to manally clear a bunch of inodes before fsck could figure out
how to clean things up.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Is this an out-take
                                  at               from the "BRADY BUNCH"?
                               visi.com            

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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you change the monitor settings?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:37:54 -0400

I have RedHat Linux 6.2 running GNOME.
I am trying to change the monitor settings.
I read that configX will allow me to do this.
I went to /usr/bin/X11/, but there's no configX
/usr/bin/X11/configX
Where is configX?
I also read the configX is a commercial software.
Is there a free software that will allow me to change the monitor settings?

--


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please remove the "-SpamShield-" to send me email.  Thanks.



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From: "Norman Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: system hangs
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:54:04 -0700

In case anyone is interested in the solution. It is a bug. The bugfix is
available on Red Hat's web site.

Norman

"Norman Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Sx0r5.41969$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to install Red Hat 6.2 on my Intel system. The system has two
> SCSI hard drives. I setup the system in the following manner,
>
> /boot     sda1     23M     Linux native
> <swap>     sda8     517M     Linux swap
> <swap>     sdb7     517M     Linux swap
> /root     sdb9    23M     Linux native
> /          md0     1506M     RAID1[sda5,sdb1]
> /home     md1     800M     RAID1[sda7,sdb6]
> /var        md2     902M     RAID1[sda6,sdb5]
> /tmp     md3     502M     RAID1[sdb8,sda9]
>
> The process went smoothly. At the very end the system hangs with the
> following message, "Performing post install configuration..." Does anyone
> what gives? Your help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Norman
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: How do you change the monitor settings?
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 02:48:33 GMT

Spelling and Case counts on linux.

Where did you read about configX?

Here, try this as root.

updatedb           runs for a few minutes to build file location database.
locate onfig | grep /bin/ | grep -i x


On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:37:54 -0400, Arctic Storm
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have RedHat Linux 6.2 running GNOME.
>I am trying to change the monitor settings.
>I read that configX will allow me to do this.
>I went to /usr/bin/X11/, but there's no configX
>/usr/bin/X11/configX
>Where is configX?
>I also read the configX is a commercial software.
>Is there a free software that will allow me to change the monitor settings?


-- 
The warranty and liability expired as you read this message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it. 
Do a,  man command_here or cat command_here, before using it.

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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: for in list     in bash
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 03:24:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew N. McGuire  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hence, "the question is academic"!  What I am saying is that if
>the poster JUST wanted to know how 'for; do; done' works, fine.
>If he wanted to use it to ACTUALLY loop through a glob merely to
>echo filenames, he is picking the wrong tool for the job.

Although his loop used echo in the body, I think it's safe to assume that
was just for example purposes, and it wasn't his actual goal.  His question
was whether globbing would sort or if he needs to sort it himself.

Sheesh, Usenetters can be *so* literal-minded.

-- 
Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Genuity, Burlington, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: How do you change the monitor settings?
Date: 3 Sep 2000 03:24:31 GMT

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:37:54 -0400, Arctic Storm
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Where is configX?

The file is /etc/X11/XF86Config.

You probably want to run Xconfigurator to change your resolution.  If you
want to make size/position adjustments, I suggest running XF86Setup.
XF86Setup requires the XFree86-VGA16 and XFree86-XF86Setup packages

Be careful not to run Xconfigurator while in runlevel 5 (graphical login).
Switch to runlevel 3 first:

init 3

Test your configuration with

startx

Dave Cook

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Shared library and PIC
Date: 2 Sep 2000 22:50:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8opsae$a8d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>> I have done this - I had a .a file and wanted to make a shared lib
>>out of it.  The way I did it was to take the .h file for the lib and
>>convert it to a .c file that referenced all the functions in the .a,
>>then I compiled that .c into a .so file (passing the name of the .a
>>along on the final link command line), and in so doing, it pulled in
>>all the routines from the .a into the .so.  It wasn't too difficult
>>and it seems to work fine.  This was on Solaris.

>make sure you define -z defs for ld ( resolve all symbols completely )
>otherwise you might still have undefined symbols in the resultant .so.
>A little more difficult method is to use a mapfile or -u switch to get
>the symbols undefined, that will result in their extraction from the .a
>file.

Funny you should mention that.  After reading your post, I decided to go
back and give it a try.  I read the ld man page and it seemed reasonable.
When I added "-z defs" to the Makefile and re-built it, I got a whole bunch
of fatal errors, complaining that various symbols were implicitly defined in
libc.so - i.e., it seemed that I was asking it to resolve these things now,
when the original code expected them to be resolved at runtime (I.e., from
the standard libs).

So, I took the -z defs out everything was fine again.

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From: Karl Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caching files from CD---problem when playing MP3s on CD
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 05:04:15 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruce Stephens
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Can you use hdparm to activate dma transfers on the cdrom alone ? This won't
>> cause it to buffer everything, but should decrease the amount of time it
>> spends reading. The drive motor would still be running, though.
> 
> I'll certainly try that.  However, I don't think that's the issue: this is a
> O(5M) file, and it's going to be read in little bits for O(5 minutes).  There
> isn't really a speed issue there---any CDROM can read data at that rate!
> 
> The irritation is that (it seems) the CDROM is intermittently active just
> about all the time.  
> 
> I don't want to copy the entire CD to hard disk---however, I guess I could
> copy it one directory at a time.  That would be fine for this particular one
> (it's the BBC radio Lord of the Rings, which I have on
> 13CDs, but 1 is much easier to carry around, so pretty sequential
> listening is what I'm likely to do).  A more general solution would still be
> nice, IMHO.


try increasing the buffer sizes used within the applications.


karl.

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Crossposted-To: comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: URGENT - sshd getpeername failed: Bad file descriptor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard E. Silverman)
Date: 03 Sep 2000 00:02:53 -0400


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >Please help, what is the getpeername failed: Bad file descriptor?
> >How to fix this error?
>
> Fix your DNS so that nslookup returns a name for that IP from the
> reverse lookup zone, or at least make sure that you have names for your
> Win95 and 98 IPs in /etc/hosts.

I don't see how this could be related.  getpeername doesn't do name
lookups; it returns the remote socket address associated with a given file
descriptor.  This error occurs if you pass an fd to getpeername which is
not open on a network connection.

As I just mentioned in a different thread, there is a bug in OpenSSH-2.1.1
which results in its internal file descriptor bookkeeping to become
confused; although I haven't seen this particular error before as an
effect, it sounds suspicious.

-- 
  Richard Silverman
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Updated version of hinv perl script
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:14:04 -0500

[ posted & mailed ]

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Robert L. Klungle quoth:

~~ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 19:44:57 GMT
~~ From: Robert L. Klungle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Updated version of hinv perl script
~~ 
~~ I acquired a copy of the hinv script on the net (don't remember where)
~~ several years ago. Haven't seen any updates since. A couple of days ago
~~ I noticed that some of the elements were no longer there or were wrong
~~ (apparently Linux has changed). So modified and added to get to 2.1.13.
~~ Quick hack so not the best.
~~ If anyone knows of anyother updates, wouild like to see/have them.
~~ Here is my current one.

[ ok: This is my last time posting a long Perl script, I promise,
  I am hoping someone may find some use of it. ]

I took you script and ran with it, I posted a sort of practice one
earlier, that I probably should not have posted (since it was not
finished).  I did quite a bit to this script, but even still there
are some things that could be done better.  The updated list of things
I did:

1.  Fixed compile time error on line 163.
2.  Made it run under the strict pragma (still many globals though :-()
3.  Changed some if's to elsif's (for excusive conditions).
4.  Reordered some out of order code.
5.  Replaced chop() with safer chomp() (only removes $/)
6.  Added error checking to open() calls.
7.  Added nmuemonic file handles.
8.  Added explicit calls to close().
9.  Added 'use integer' for memory total math.
10. Made indent 4 columns (for readability).
11. Commented the script.
12. Localized scope of variables as much as I could.
13. Tried to use slighty more nmuemonic identifiers (left most
    untouched though)
14. Tried to get rid of superfluous double quotes (no interpolation)
15. Commented on areas that could still use improvement.

I did not:

1.  Try to completely redesign the script.
2.  Check that the regex's used are the most effecient.
3.  Check the output against SGI's hinv program ( I don't have
    access to an SGI machine )
4.  Try to optimize every last little detail of the program.

So here is the updated version, again, sorry for posting such a long
program, but maybe someone will find some use of it.  If anyone sees
anything screwed up I did, please let me know.



#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;

# hinv.pl - take hardware inventory
# Note: one thing I did not check in this script is
# the efficiency of the regex's.  So if they are lack-
# ing, don't blame me. ;-]

# Declare global variables. :-(
# Some of these can probably have their
# scope localized (or maybe not).

use vars qw
[
    %fdc      %cpus $mem $speed $scsi $eth
    %ttys     @eth  $hda $hdb   $hdc  $hdd
    %graphics $kbd  $tmr $ides  $ppt 
    %floppy
];

open(DMESG, 'dmesg |')
    || die "Can't fork dmesg: $!\n";

# dmesg seems like an ugly way to do this,
# this information has got to be laying around
# in the filesystem somewhere.

while (my $line = <DMESG>) {
    chomp($line);
    my @fields = split(/\s+/, $line);

    if ($line =~ /^tty/) {
        $ttys{$fields [-1]} ++;
    }
    elsif ($line =~ /^Floppy/) {
        $floppy{$fields [-1]} ++;
    }
    elsif ($line =~ /^FDC /) {
        $line =~ s~.*is a ~~;
        $fdc{$line} ++;
    }
    elsif ($line =~ /^scsi : detected /) {
        $scsi = $line;
    }
    elsif ($line =~ /^eth\d+.* at /) {
        $line =~ s~\s*at .*~~;
        push(@eth, $line);
    }
}

close(DMESG);

open(CPU, '/proc/cpuinfo')
    || die "Can't read /proc/cpuinfo: $!\n";

# Get some information about our CPU(s).

while (my $line = <CPU>) {
    chomp($line);
    my @fields = split(/\s+/, $line);

    if ($line =~ /cpu MHz/) {
        $speed = $fields [3];
    }
    elsif ($line =~ /vendor_id/) {
        my $vendor = $fields [2];
        $cpus{$vendor} ++;
    }
}

close(CPU);

open(IO, '/proc/ioports')
    || die "Can't read /proc/ioports: $!\n";

# Check for keyboard, graphics card, and timer.

while (my $line = <IO>) {
    chomp($line);

    if ($line =~ /keyboard/) {
        $kbd ++;
    }
    elsif ($line =~ /vga/) {
        my @fields = split(/\s+/, $line);
        $graphics{$fields [-1]} ++;
    } 
    elsif ($line =~ /timer/) {
        $tmr ++;
    }
}

close(IO);

# Get system memory information.

open(MEM, '/proc/meminfo')
    || die "Can't read /proc/meminfo: $!\n";

while (my $line = <MEM>) {
    chomp($line);
    my @fields = split(/\s+/, $line);

    if ($line =~ /^MemTotal: /) {
        use integer;
        $fields [1] /= 1024;
        $mem = "Total memory: ~$fields[1]M\n";
    }
}

close(MEM);

# Check for /dev/hda .. /dev/hdd (IDE devices)
# This is probably a bad way to do this, a for
# loop could probably automate the check to see
# how many disk devices we have.  This fails for
# /dev/hde, so it is not very scalable.

if (-e '/proc/ide/hda/model') {
    open(HDA, '/proc/ide/hda/model')
        || die "Can't read /proc/ide/hda/model: $!\n";
    $hda = <HDA>;
    $ides ++;
    close(HDA);
}
if (-e '/proc/ide/hdb/model') {
    open(HDB, '/proc/ide/hdb/model')
        || die "Can't read /proc/ide/hdb/model: $!\n";
    $hdb = <HDB>;
    $ides ++;
    close(HDB);
}
if (-e '/proc/ide/hdc/model') {
    open(HDC, '/proc/ide/hdc/model')
        || die "Can't read /proc/ide/hdc/model: $!\n";
    $hdc = <HDC>;
    $ides ++;
    close(HDC);
}
if (-e '/proc/ide/hdd/model') {
    open(HDD, '/proc/ide/hdd/model')
        || die "Can't read /proc/ide/hdd/model: $!\n";
    $hdd = <HDD>;
    $ides ++;
    close(HDD);
}

# Do we have a parallel port?
$ppt ++ if -e '/proc/parport/0/hardware';

print $mem if defined $mem;

# Look through the various hashes we have
# built, and print some hardware stats.
# (CPU's, TTY's, Floppys, etc.. Stuff we
# can have more than one of.

for my $key (keys %cpus) {
    print "$cpus{$key} $key $speed MHz processor";
    print $cpus{$key} > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
}
for my $key (keys %ttys) {
    print "$ttys{$key} $key serial port";
    print  $ttys{$key} > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
} 
for my $key (keys %fdc) {
    print "$fdc{$key} $key floppy controller";
    print $fdc{$key} > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
}
for my $key (keys %floppy) {
    print "$floppy{$key} $key floppy drive";
    print $floppy{$key} > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
}
for my $key (keys %graphics) {
    print "$graphics{$key} $key graphics device";
    print $graphics{$key} > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
}

# I guess the original author assumed a person
# could have only one of these.

if (defined($tmr)) {
    print "$tmr timer controller\n";
}
if (defined($kbd)) {
    print "$kbd keyboard";
    print $kbd > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
}
if (defined($ppt)) {
    print "$ppt parallel port";
    print $ppt > 1 ? "s\n" : "\n";
}

# Display what ethernet interfaces we have,
# I think IP aliasing will make this look
# misleading (not sure). May want to add
# dialup interfaces later.

if ((my $n = @eth) > 0) {
    print "$n ethernet interface";
    print $n > 1 ? "s:\n" : ":\n";
    for $eth (@eth) {
        print "`->  $eth\n";
    }
}

# Print IDE device statistics.
$ides ||= 0;
print "$ides IDE device";
print  $ides > 1 ? "s:\n" : ":\n";

print "`->  $hda" if defined $hda;
print "`->  $hdb" if defined $hdb;
print "`->  $hdc" if defined $hdc;
print "`->  $hdd" if defined $hdd;

if (defined($scsi)) {
    $scsi =~ s~.*detected ~~;
    $scsi =~ s~total\.~~;
    print $scsi;

    open(SCSI, '/proc/scsi/scsi') 
        || die "Can't read /proc/scsi/scsi: $!\n";
    
    DEVICE:
    while (my $line = <SCSI>) {
        next DEVICE unless $line =~ m~Vendor~;
        chomp($line);
        $line =~ s~.*Vendor:\s*~~;
        $line =~ s~\s*Rev:.*~~;
        $line =~ s~Model:\s*~~;
        print "`->  $line";
    }

    close(SCSI);
}

open(PCI, '/proc/pci') 
    || die "Can't read /proc/pci: $!\n";

print "PCI bus devices:\n";
while (my $line = <PCI>) {
    if ($line =~ /^\s*Bus/) {
        $line = <PCI>;
        $line =~ s~^\s+~~;
        print "`->  $line";
    }
}

close(PCI);
__END__

anm
-- 
Andrew N. McGuire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl -le'print map?"(.*)"?&&($_=$1)&&s](\w+)]\u$1]g&&$_=>`perldoc -qj`'


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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you change the monitor settings?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:37:04 -0500

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Arctic Storm quoth:

~~ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:37:54 -0400
~~ From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: How do you change the monitor settings?
~~ 
~~ I have RedHat Linux 6.2 running GNOME.
~~ I am trying to change the monitor settings.
~~ I read that configX will allow me to do this.
~~ I went to /usr/bin/X11/, but there's no configX
~~ /usr/bin/X11/configX
~~ Where is configX?
~~ I also read the configX is a commercial software.
~~ Is there a free software that will allow me to change the monitor settings?

XF86Setup

anm
-- 
Andrew N. McGuire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl -le'print map?"(.*)"?&&($_=$1)&&s](\w+)]\u$1]g&&$_=>`perldoc -qj`'


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.ibm-pc,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Basic Linux Survey
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 21:38:42 -0700

On or about Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:39:45 +1000, Alien Spawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
scrivened:
> Howdy. I'm doing a preliminary report addressing Linux v Windoze for small
> business. Now I have a very basic 10 question survey thats not intended to
> gather or cover all aspects of the penguin v the goose......so if you have a
> spare few minutes you can have a look at it at:

> http://home.iprimus.com.au/farmland/survey/index.htm

Your survey includes default responses.  You should remove these or
specify no default.

-- 
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
  What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?   Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
   http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/    K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: locate - permission denied
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:49:56 -0500

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, gnologic quoth:

~~ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 19:18:20 GMT
~~ From: gnologic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: locate - permission denied
~~ 
~~ > Why would you need help? It says it can't open its database and gives
~~ > you the reason. Surely the next question should be
~~ > "where is the database" or "how do I find out", not "any help
~~ > appreciated ..."?
~~ 
~~ It would have been easy to recommend a HowTo or even easier to skip the
~~ post completely. Nope, your ego wouldn't let that happen. You were forced
~~ into proving your superior intelligence by not even having the ability to
~~ stoop all the way down to HIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE..
~~ 
~~ But then again, newbies should just go back to Windows were they belong,
~~ right? Linux is for "real" men with "real" programming skills.

I think Peters follow-up was entirely appropriate, for goodness sakes,
he told him how to fix the problem.  The best way to help someone new
is to help them help themselves, not spoon-feed them.  Besides most
people hate being spoon-fed, just give a newbie a shove in the right
direction, thats all that is needed.  Newbies are new, not stupid.


anm
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Andrew N. McGuire
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From: "T.F.Lai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X Windows Not Display?
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:55:09 +0800

Hi, I'm installed RedHat 6.2 on the following hardware :
 AMD K6-400, 32MB RAM, S3 Trio3D Graphics Card, Sony CPD-15SF II.

But the X Windows seem to detect the graphics card but when I type startx at
the command prompt. The monitor doesn't display and the button become
orange.

Can anyone give me some tips or hints?

I'll appreciate for your kindly help.

Thanks.




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!  Urgent problem with gzip
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 23:55:59 -0500

On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Martha H Adams quoth:

~~ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 11:53:23 GMT
~~ From: Martha H Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help, comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Help!  Urgent problem with gzip
~~ 
[ snip ]

~~ Yes, the safe and careful way takes a little more time.  But how long
~~ to recreate the lost material?

On the bright side, I think that everyone learns this lesson the
hard way, so he shouldn't feel too bad.  Actually another lesson
most people learn the hard way is: "Don't do everyday tasks as root!".
Better to lose one file than an entire system!  I know, I learned both
lessons the hard way a long time ago.

anm
-- 
Andrew N. McGuire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl -le'print map?"(.*)"?&&($_=$1)&&s](\w+)]\u$1]g&&$_=>`perldoc -qj`'


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From: "T.F.Lai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X Windows Can't Support Sony Monitor?
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 13:06:14 +0800

Hi, I'm installed RedHat 6.2 on the following hardware :
 AMD K6-400, 32MB RAM, S3 Trio3D Graphics Card, Sony CPD-15SF II.

But the X Windows seem to detect the graphics card but when I type startx at
the command prompt. The monitor doesn't display and the button become
orange.

Can anyone give me some tips or hints?

I'll appreciate for your kindly help.

Thanks.






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