Linux-Misc Digest #651, Volume #24 Tue, 30 May 00 10:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs (Thomas Boggs)
Mandrake Resolution Woes ("Andrew J Fortune")
Linux setup for @home cable modem
Re: Random lockups in Redhat 6.2 (ray)
Re: Linux setup for @home cable modem (Bas van Nunen)
Re: Random lockups in Redhat 6.2 (Martin Herrman)
Re: AutoMount 2nd CDROM in Redhat 6.2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! (Bernie)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Please help me ./configure (Heinz Oswald)
KFM CRASH .- (Jorge Dominguez)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! (Bernie)
Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!! (Bernie)
Re: Please help me ./configure (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs (Johan Kullstam)
Re: editor for Linux and IDE (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Windows by Day, Linux by Night (Johan Kullstam)
2.4.0-test1 Keeps Crashing (Young4ert)
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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:18:00 -0400
"Andrew E. Schulman" wrote:
>
> > Matlab itself runs in linux (www.mathworks.com).
>
> Yes, for $1,900 for a single-user license.
>
> > Also, there is a free close relative in octave
> > (www.che.wisc.edu/octave/).
>
> Unfortunately octave still seems to be about like Matlab version 4-- no
> multidimensional arrays, cell arrays, structures, or other data types
> that were introduced in Matlab 5. What they've done is good though, and
> free.
Actually, Octave does support simple structures. I'm using Octave
2.0.14:
octave:16> foo.x = 1
foo.x = 1
octave:17> foo.y = 2
foo.y = 2
octave:18> foo.str = "Foo"
foo.str = Foo
octave:19> foo
foo =
{
x = 1
str = Foo
y = 2
}
-thomas
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From: "Andrew J Fortune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake Resolution Woes
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:29:23 +1000
A few days ago, I installed Mandrake Linux v7.0 for the first time. When the
installation had finished, it re-booted me to a graphical login, and when I
logged in, I discovered I was in 640x480 mode.
For the past few days, I have been trying in vain to re-set the resolution
to 1024x768. It has been an absolute nightmare, and no matter what I try to
do, it point-blank refuses to go to 1024x768.
Here is a summary of what I have tried (more-or-less in chronological order)
:
(1) Ran XF86Setup to try and remedy this problem. I changed the vertical
refresh rate to 50 Hz for 1024x768 (seeing as my monitor manual said
"Refresh rate 60Hz (maximum resolution)". The result, after re-booting, was
that it dumped me to the console login. When I logged in and ran startx, it
gave the error message "execve failed for /etc/X11/X".
(2) Then I re-installed from scratch to restore the graphical login, and
also
to observe carefully the behaviour of the installation towards the end. The
last step is the x-configuration. It didn't allow me to manually configure
the X server (as I expected would happen). Instead, it automatically
installed some software with the message "Kernel version 2.2.14 with
framebuffer support".
(3) Then, after re-booting, I tried the xf86config tool, seeing as XF86Setup
didn't work. I tried a few options, but each time after having made the
changes, I still got the error message "execve failed for /etc/X11/X (error
no.2)" when I tried to invoke startx.
In summary, every time I tried to tweak the X-configuration settings using
no matter which tool, I could no longer run startx (when I did, I got the
error "execve failed...", as above). I then had to re-install from scratch
and start all over again.
Note also the following :
(1) I have a new Compaq Presario, with a 15" Compaq MV520 monitor, and a
Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 video card.
(2) The resolution of 1024x768 works just fine when I am in Windows 98.
(3) My old Pentium 75 PC never had this sort of problem !!!
(4) The installation didn't quite work as expected. It seems to bypass the
bootloader step, but automatically installed LILO. Also, as previously
mentioned, it didn't allow me to manually configure the X Server (last step
of the Mandrake installation).
(5) The LILO prompt defaults to Linux-fb, but if I try to key this in
manually, I get the error "Block Move Error 0x0A0E".
I am at my wits end with this one. Surely it can't be this hard to re-set
the screen resolution in Linux ?!?!?!?
Any help appreciated...
regards,
Andrew J Fortune
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux setup for @home cable modem
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:30:03 GMT
I have AT&T @home cable modem. I am not sure how to set up Linux to use
the cable modem. I have read a couple of articles and tried what they said
but to no avail.
I would like to hear from someone who has @home running on their Linux
system.
--
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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Random lockups in Redhat 6.2
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:33:04 GMT
Martin Herrman wrote:
> On 30 May 2000 12:34:35 +0100, Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <CUT: redhat problems>
>
> > Anyone have any sugestions?
>
> I heard some other people with problems after upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2.
> I think RedHat might get a too much commercial vison: often new versions,
> so companies will think it is good. In fact, the dependencies etc. aren't
> checked thoroughly and the system gets unstable. I hope this will change,
> or that i'm wrong, otherwise the linux OS is going to look like windows
> for the average user. Or they should be warned and noticed about Debian
> or something like that. In fact, i'm using redhat now too, but i would
> like to change.. just not time enough :-(
>
> greetings,
>
> Martin
>
> --
> Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
> Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
> 1:30pm up 1 day, 23:07, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.08, 0.08
> Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
There are some issues with the shipped kernel, I had that too, and the new
kernel at Redhat site stopped it. I think I am now running 2.2.14-6.0.1 or
whatever the recommended one is. AT any rate, the instability went away.
--
Ray R. Jones
The Computer Shop
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
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From: Bas van Nunen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux setup for @home cable modem
Date: 30 May 2000 12:48:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have AT&T @home cable modem. I am not sure how to set up Linux to use
> the cable modem. I have read a couple of articles and tried what they said
> but to no avail.
> I would like to hear from someone who has @home running on their Linux
> system.
Does @home use DHCP in your region? If so, you can find a step-wise description
on my homepage at:
http://stuwww.kub.nl/people/b.vannunen/linux-man.php3
regards,
--
Bas
---
B.M.J. van Nunen, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Student of Information Management and Technology
http://stuwww.kub.nl/people/b.vannunen
"There are no such things as foolish questions, just foolish people"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Random lockups in Redhat 6.2
Date: 30 May 2000 13:09:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 30 May 2000 12:33:04 GMT, ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There are some issues with the shipped kernel, I had that too, and the new
> kernel at Redhat site stopped it. I think I am now running 2.2.14-6.0.1 or
> whatever the recommended one is. AT any rate, the instability went away.
>
The problems I saw were merely with dependency problems when upgrading packages.
About the kernel problem: the original poster said that he had already
recompiled the kernel, so I guess that should not be the problem.. strange..
Martin
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
3:00pm up 2 days, 37 min, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: AutoMount 2nd CDROM in Redhat 6.2?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:11:08 GMT
I already have a line in fstab for /dev/cdrom1. Here is a copy:
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,ro
0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 owner,exec,dev,suid,ro,noauto 0
0
I used Linuxconf to configure this.
--
--
Regards,
Roger Shum
----
In article <8gvpja$rqp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edit /etc/fstab and add the same line you have related to your
/dev/cdrom
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <8gvj1s$j9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hi, there,
> >
<deleted>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie)
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:31:12 GMT
Reply-To: abuse@[127.0.0.1], see signature@[127.0.0.1]
On Mon, 29 May 2000 18:22:25 -0400, jbritton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hell what if the company you work for has a huge CCIE lab and you use it any time
>you wanted to.
>
>For $20,000 hmmm
>
>1. New Truck
>2. Kegs and Kegs and Kegs of real Beer
>3. PARTYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>4. Lawyers cause im bound to end up in jail with all that beer ;-)
>5. fines and court costs
>
>$20,000 should cover that ???
Not if you are Eddie Belfour--you'd need a "billion dollars"!!!
--Bernie
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 30 May 2000 13:18:24 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc lop@l wrote:
: In article <8gub3a$qur$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: says...
:
:>As a result, a *lot* more coding gets done. Sometimes the resulting code
:>is crap --- so what, scrap it, redo it from scratch, with what you have
:>learned from the mistakes you made the first time around. You can do
:>that four times, and *still* get the good version before the person who
:>does 15/85.
:>
: One can eliminate many unneccessary code iterations by spending more
: time in the analysis and design stage.
But why should one wish to do this, given virtually unlimited coding
resources, as the linux kernel has available? The linux kernel is coded
in parallel. Code snippets compete for the attention of Linus in order
to make it into the kernel. Linus sets the barriers and the little
snippets try and get through them. Linus also sets up biases in the
evolutionary processes, by stating for example, what the broad traits
are that he will accept patches for, or by deliberately unbalancing and
maiming parts of the kernel so that patches have to come in to set it
right.
Peter
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From: Heinz Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help me ./configure
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:19:29 +0200
Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
> On Mon, 29 May 2000 04:02:16 GMT, Masoud Pajoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi All;
> > I am newbie, as you can tell by my question. I use RH6.1 with some
> >upgrades. Every time I try to use ./configure or make to make
> >executables I get messages that some file not found.
>
> You apparently did not install much, if any, of the development
> packages. For starters you will need: egcs*rpm, automake*rpm,
> texinfo*rpm, autoconf*rpm, make*rpm. While you are at it, install
> glibc-devel*rpm, and kernel-headers*rpm. This should at least get you
> started.
>
Is there a README or a FAQ which provides that information ???
hard stuff for newbies ;-)
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From: Jorge Dominguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KFM CRASH .-
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:30:06 GMT
Hi all :
From yesterday i've problems with the kfm .-
When i click on home icon show me the kfm window but when i try to click to
another folder the kfm frozen and i must to reboot my system .-
I've installed RH 6.2 in PIII 550 Mhz. 192 MB RAM 20 GB HD IDE and video
Diammond Savage with 32 MB Video memory .-
Can you help me because i don't now what happen because before yesterday
my system worked fine .-
TIA .-
Jorge Dominguez
Corrientes-Argentina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie)
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:39:42 GMT
Reply-To: abuse@[127.0.0.1], see signature@[127.0.0.1]
On Sat, 27 May 2000 12:23:08 +0200, "Sebastiaan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if ur smart, all of it.
Nope. Try, "If you have a photographic memory, most of it."
Otherwise, the facts prove that you have no hope of remembering *all*
of it. Tell me, what was was taught on the third day of History class
in your Sophomore year of highschool? Don't remember? I guess then
you must be "not smart" like everybody else.
>Tone heeft geschreven in bericht ...
>>and how much do you still expect people to remember after the 31st day?
>>
>>
>
--Bernie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie)
Crossposted-To:
alt.certification.cisco,alt.certification.mcse,alt.certification.network-plus,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 6 certifications in 30 Days and 15+ College Credits!!!
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:43:05 GMT
Reply-To: abuse@[127.0.0.1], see signature@[127.0.0.1]
On Sat, 27 May 2000 23:12:42 +0100, Lauren Child
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Bernie wrote:
>>
>> Does this "real-world" lab environment also have simulated "dumb
>> end-users", simulated unreasonable bosses, and simulated crackers to
>> break into the servers or use make use of the email server as a relay
>> point for spam? I'm just about curious how "real world" it is.
>>
>
>Ah - you just need a simple basic program
>
>10 print "I didnt touch anything, I just came in this morning and it was
>like it"
>
>20 goto 10
>
>Then network wise you just need to dangle a stripped cable down onto an
>aluminium foil mat near an open window, and when the wind blows, hey
>presto.
>
>Simulating unreasonable demands is easy, put the above in a completely
>different room you dont know exists, set the exam for 30 minutes after
>walking in on the first day.
>
>As far as crackers go there is no need - just play musical chairs -
>every half an hour you move to the computer next to you and have to fix
>all the mistakes the dodo next to you left you with - crackers cant do
>half the damage a half witted computer wannabe with a book to copy from
>can.
>
>Oh dear Ive been doing this far too long......
Thats pretty funny! LOL
--Bernie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Please help me ./configure
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:44:52 GMT
On Tue, 30 May 2000 15:19:29 +0200, Heinz Oswald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hal Burgiss wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 29 May 2000 04:02:16 GMT, Masoud Pajoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Hi All;
>> > I am newbie, as you can tell by my question. I use RH6.1 with some
>> >upgrades. Every time I try to use ./configure or make to make
>> >executables I get messages that some file not found.
>>
>> You apparently did not install much, if any, of the development
>> packages. For starters you will need: egcs*rpm, automake*rpm,
>> texinfo*rpm, autoconf*rpm, make*rpm. While you are at it, install
>> glibc-devel*rpm, and kernel-headers*rpm. This should at least get you
>> started.
>
>Is there a README or a FAQ which provides that information ???
Not AFAIK. But all this should be on the CD (if that's how you
installed). Just look there (using gnorpm if you want or command line),
and install these. This should get you started.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs
Date: 30 May 2000 09:27:04 -0400
"Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Matlab itself runs in linux (www.mathworks.com).
>
> Yes, for $1,900 for a single-user license.
a high price tag is very matlab like. how much more like matlab do
you want?
> > Also, there is a free close relative in octave
> > (www.che.wisc.edu/octave/).
>
> Unfortunately octave still seems to be about like Matlab version 4-- no
> multidimensional arrays, cell arrays, structures, or other data types
> that were introduced in Matlab 5. What they've done is good though, and
> free.
octave *does* have structures. it (at least the latest "bleeding
edge" versions) also has lists which take the place of cell arrays.
the syntax is a bit different though. octave has a number of small
(incompatible) extensions to matlab.
if you enjoy C++ (i don't but ymmv), then octave should suit you
better than matlab since its extensions are done in C++ instead of C.
give octave a try. what have you got to lose?
fyi octave is not just for unix-likes. it runs on windows too.
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: editor for Linux and IDE
Date: 30 May 2000 09:20:40 -0400
"Steve D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Davide Sanna - Tiscali S.p.A."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > is there an X-editor with syntax hilight and other features (like
> > UltraEdit for windoze ?) available for Linux ? (free, GPL,
> > OpenSource)...
> >
> > Or, how to make syntax-hiliting for gIDE for java sources ? (gIDE =
> > gnome-IDE)
> >
> > Is there an IDE for java (NOT WRITTEN IN JAVA) available for Linux ?
> > (free,GPL,OpenSource).
> >
> > ok, num questions enough...closing connection...
> >
> > Thanx!
> Kwite does this. if you go under the options menu you can select
> quite a few different syntax highlighting options. It's probably a
> little easier for you to use than emacs.
why do you say this?
emacs has menus and they work like any other menus. emacs accepts
cursor (arrow) keys. emacs can cut and paste with the mouse just any
other text X program.
emacs is probably *equally* easy to use.
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Windows by Day, Linux by Night
Date: 30 May 2000 09:31:15 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Harlan Grove would say:
> >I read through this article, and there's not much there.
> >Some excerpts:
> >
> >"... We created the equivalent of "man pages" for every
> >user level program and other major user interface features
> >of the system."
> >
> >I was unaware the man page format was the ideal form of
> >documentation. GNU man pages are mostly no longer
> >maintained, with GNU commands now described in Info pages.
> >Well, Windows does have WinHelp and HTML 'manuals' in a
> >hypertext format similar to GNU's Info pages. So man pages
> >look like one step backwards.
>
> Flip side:
>
> If the man pages are reasonably well put-together, they can represent
> a structure for information that UNIX users are generally fairly
> familiar with.
>
> The fact that the FSF deprecates man pages in favor of TeXinfo does
> not mean that man pages are a horrid thing. (The _horrid thing_ about
> man pages is that so many _modern_ ones are so badly maintained...)
the other horrid thing is the sheer length of the longer ones. i
dread seeing the page for csh pop when i want help on something which
happened to be a shell built-in. e.g., man set. searching doesn't
help much because the word "set" appears about once every other
line...
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.4.0-test1 Keeps Crashing
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:59:10 -0400
Hi,
I am wondering if anyone has tried to run their Linux system with the latest
kernel, namely 2.4.0-test1, sucessfully. I have been having one hell of a big
problem using this 2.4.0-test1 with the Netscape-4.7.2 in which the system
keeps crashing after the netscape has been launched within 30 minutes. Any
idea what might have caused the system to crash once the netscape is launched?
TIA.
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